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50.       karekin04
565 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 05:50 pm

Quoting mltm:

Sure, there're also a lot of things that I appreciate in the US. One day, I'd like to go there just for visiting. I think the Europe looks down upon on the US a bit, because what's real they lack culture and history. They exaggerate a lot of things, and there's a lot of cultural degeneration that's imported from the US to all parts of world. As well as the good things she has done, US has also done so many bad things, and the problem is she really sees herself as the police and director of the world. It saved us from the "evil" communism, but he created other evil things, he created the islamic fanatic groups and now he's bringing "democracy" to these places.
And I do not believe there's such a freedom there. You can get in prison for very stupid things, and there's still sentence to death. There are a lot of religious sects, and funny things going around religion there. It's quite easy to get a gun there. etc. etc. And there's no real social insurance there like in europe, if you have money, you can benefit from the best medical facilities, but if you do not have money, the government do not much care about you. You work a lot to make money there, in europe, you appreciate the social life you can have beside working, and you feel youself more under the protection umbrella of the government.
don't know there're strange things going on there. I'd prefer europe to US for a lot of reasons.

mltm I totally agree with you on a lot of these points. It must be really nice to be under the umbrella of a goverment that is "really" for the people and doesn't just say they are.
However your comments regarding getting guns and going to jail and blah blah blah were really a waste of your typing fingers. That was pretty stupid considering I think those things are same all over
As for visiting.... don't waste your time, there is nothing to see in this country that lacks in history and culture :-S

51.       aenigma x
0 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 06:32 pm

Quoting karekin04:


However your comments regarding getting guns and going to jail and blah blah blah were really a waste of your typing fingers. That was pretty stupid considering I think those things are same all over



A waste of time? Most countries DO NOT have your laws on hand guns! There are few countries which have such a lax attitude to guns as the US. It is very easy to buy a gun in the USA. You must be 18 or over. When you buy a gun from a registered dealer, you have computerised background check. This only takes a few minutes, and you are free to go and shoot who the hell you want!

Extract from the New York Times:-
"In the last year, 15 states have enacted laws that expand the right of self-defense, allowing crime victims to use deadly force in situations that might formerly have subjected them to prosecution for murder.

Jason Rosenbloom was shot twice during a dispute over how many garbage bags Mr. Rosenbloom had put out. The shooter was not arrested.
Jacqueline Galas, a Florida prostitute, shot and killed a 72-year-old client. She was not charged.

Robert Smiley, a cabdriver, killed a passenger in an altercation. He was tried but the jury deadlocked.
Supporters call them “stand your ground” laws. Opponents call them “shoot first” laws.

Thanks to this sort of law, a prostitute in Port Richey, Fla., who killed her 72-year-old client with his own gun rather than flee was not charged last month. Similarly, the police in Clearwater, Fla., did not arrest a man who shot a neighbor in early June after a shouting match over putting out garbage, though the authorities say they are still reviewing the evidence. "

52.       aenigma x
0 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 06:56 pm

Quoting mltm:

I think the Europe looks down upon on the US a bit, because what's real they lack culture and history. .



I don't agree with this, I think that the US DOES have a culture and history, which is very interesting.

Quoting mltm:


As well as the good things she has done, US has also done so many bad things, and the problem is she really sees herself as the police and director of the world. .



I DO agree with this though

53.       mltm
3690 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 07:06 pm

karekin, if you had spent as much as time I spent typing these "blah blah", you'd have found the informations that support my blah blah. Thank you aneigma for your backup about getting guns.

54.       mltm
3690 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 07:09 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting mltm:

I think the Europe looks down upon on the US a bit, because what's real they lack culture and history. .



I don't agree with this, I think that the US DOES have a culture and history, which is very interesting.



I think I did not use such a good word here. I thought to lack means that not being enough. I did n't want to mean that US does not have any culture and history. But I got the impression from the europeans or other countries as well in criticizing the US that they often see they see US culture inferior.

55.       karekin04
565 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 08:04 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting karekin04:


However your comments regarding getting guns and going to jail and blah blah blah were really a waste of your typing fingers. That was pretty stupid considering I think those things are same all over



A waste of time? Most countries DO NOT have your laws on hand guns! There are few countries which have such a lax attitude to guns as the US. It is very easy to buy a gun in the USA. You must be 18 or over. When you buy a gun from a registered dealer, you have computerised background check. This only takes a few minutes, and you are free to go and shoot who the hell you want!

Extract from the New York Times:-
"In the last year, 15 states have enacted laws that expand the right of self-defense, allowing crime victims to use deadly force in situations that might formerly have subjected them to prosecution for murder.

Jason Rosenbloom was shot twice during a dispute over how many garbage bags Mr. Rosenbloom had put out. The shooter was not arrested.
Jacqueline Galas, a Florida prostitute, shot and killed a 72-year-old client. She was not charged.

Robert Smiley, a cabdriver, killed a passenger in an altercation. He was tried but the jury deadlocked.
Supporters call them “stand your ground” laws. Opponents call them “shoot first” laws.

Thanks to this sort of law, a prostitute in Port Richey, Fla., who killed her 72-year-old client with his own gun rather than flee was not charged last month. Similarly, the police in Clearwater, Fla., did not arrest a man who shot a neighbor in early June after a shouting match over putting out garbage, though the authorities say they are still reviewing the evidence. "

I didn't say ANYTHING about the gun "laws", her comment was its EASY to get a gun, if your saying its not EASY to get a gun anywhere else (and I'm also not just comparing England and the US so get that out of your head)thats just ludicrous! Do I agree with our laws in that area... hell no! You are barking at the wrong person here! There is not much that goes on in this country I do agree with! Trust me.

56.       karekin04
565 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 08:05 pm

Quoting mltm:

karekin, if you had spent as much as time I spent typing these "blah blah", you'd have found the informations that support my blah blah. Thank you aneigma for your backup about getting guns.

again, not talking about the "laws" meltem, wich I didnt see any information you provided... just a bunch of blah blah blah!

57.       mltm
3690 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 08:09 pm

Quoting karekin04:

just a bunch of blah blah blah!



peuhhh! You're laughable. Then, next time, you don't reply to my bunch of blah blah. and what I think is you cannot even write any blah blah.

58.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 08:17 pm

Quoting mltm:

Quoting karekin04:

just a bunch of blah blah blah!


peuhhh! You're laughable. Then, next time, you don't reply to my bunch of blah blah. and what I think is you cannot even write any blah blah.


Be careful how disrespectfully you talk mltm, soon enough you may find yourself thanking karekin for agreeing with you! lol

59.       aenigma x
0 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 08:17 pm

Quoting karekin04:


her comment was its EASY to get a gun, if your saying its not EASY to get a gun anywhere else



Well, it IS too easy to get a gun in the US!! And I can only speak for the EU countries, but it is much much harder to get a gun here. You have to obtain a license which is endorced by the police.

The MOST important aspect is that HAND GUNS are completely banned here.

60.       karekin04
565 posts
 18 Jul 2007 Wed 08:18 pm

Quoting mltm:

Quoting karekin04:

just a bunch of blah blah blah!



peuhhh! You're laughable. Then, next time, you don't reply to my bunch of blah blah. and what I think is you cannot even write any blah blah.

You know what, I have never and never will make comments regarding Turkey's or any other countries laws, I do not live there so I don't have to live the laws. So unless you were genuinely concerned, feel bad, or want to help make a difference, what is your point in examining and ridiculing someones laws. I am a proactive member of my society who is against and fights for the rights that I believe are being violated, and gun control is one of the many things I'm not happy with here, so if your going to talk about it expect that I AM going to comment about it. Is it enough blah blah blah for you?

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