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word "hafiz"
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 08:34 pm |
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Quoting caliptrix: Quoting gnark: thanks for all your answers !!
don't worry i only met kind turkish people 
a last question, is there a lot of people able to learn it by heart? in addition, it must require a lot of time..
and is it something that diseappear nowadays, or not at all ? |
There are many people but not "a lot" that much. When I was in secondary school, there were some courses for it, and they last 3 or 4 years. I am not sure if there are still. Furthermore, I heard that there are new memorizing methods, and a couple of weeks ago, a girl memorized Koran in only 59 days. |
Holy Moly!!!!!!
I've been trying to learn Turkish for about 10 months on my own......How can someone memorize something in only 3 months!? Ben cok ihtiyac ogretmek turkce daha iyi!
Ok now do I sound like a 3 year old or what?
I can't seem to find a teacher here in Toronto Canada......the turkish community is so small here. Especially if trying to find a class for Turkish.....I guess they all want to go to the USA land of opportunity and wealth! pffffffft.....
Oh well we are like the forgotten ones....ok now I am losing my senses..... see ya!
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 08:35 pm |
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Sorry to the moderator I made a mistake here but dont know how to delete this thing!
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 08:49 pm |
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Quoting egyptian_tomb:
Holy Moly!!!!!!
I've been trying to learn Turkish for about 10 months on my own......How can someone memorize something in only 3 months!? Ben cok ihtiyac ogretmek turkce daha iyi!
Ok now do I sound like a 3 year old or what?
I can't seem to find a teacher here in Toronto Canada......the turkish community is so small here. Especially if trying to find a class for Turkish.....I guess they all want to go to the USA land of opportunity and wealth! pffffffft.....
Oh well we are like the forgotten ones....ok now I am losing my senses..... see ya! |
Memorizing a book is not equal to learning a new language, and the example I gave is a special ability of that girl, I think.
I hope you can learn Turkish much faster than you expect.
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 09:43 pm |
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These contests for memorizing the Koran is one of the problems the military has with the AK Parti and Erdogan. They don't feel that this should be taught and encouraged in public school. Only privated schools.
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 09:50 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: These contests for memorizing the Koran is one of the problems the military has with the AK Parti and Erdogan. They don't feel that this should be taught and encouraged in public school. Only privated schools. |
Why do you have to make every religious topic related to political issues even though there is nothing about that?
I am getting lost my goodwill. I have doubts that you want to live in a peaceful life instead of a life full of blame, contention and fear.
Ok, keep trying to make people afraid of anything about religion.
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 09:58 pm |
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Just thought some people might find it interesting. If you don't, ignore it....
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 10:46 pm |
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... no fight in this topic please
so is it more often children who learn the Koran by heart ?
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 11:03 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Just thought some people might find it interesting. If you don't, ignore it.... |
I am sorry. I know military and many people who define themselves "the only seculars of Turkey" are against to governments strategies, and there have been many problems between them about many political things which are related to belief. But there have not been a problem about memorizing Koran. I am really surprised, because I am sure that even the Turkish people who hate AKP did not produce such a meaningless propaganda.
Sorry... I cannot ignore lies, especially if they make people afraid of nonsense.
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 11:09 pm |
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Any user who would like to argue about any political or any other issues ,except the Turkish language related topics, may do that in the forum 'general off topic', but not on here, please.
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 11:47 pm |
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As mentioned above, "hafiz" means who memorized the whole Qur'an verse by verse. There are thousands of hafiz's in Turkey. It's not easy. It takes around 2-3 years depending on your ability, and how many pages you can memorize per day. Also, once you memorize, you should read it very often, otherwise you may start forgetting. You may wonder how some one can memorize such a large text, but it's one of the miracles of the Quran that it can be memorised easily. The Quran is more than 600 pages, which in total is about 6300 verses. But a hafiz can recite you the whole Quran without stopping once. There are also some hafiz's who can recite a verse you want from any chapter you want. Like, if you ask the person to recite the 136th verse of the 14th chapter, then immediately does it...Wonderful, right? I haven't seen any one who memorised the whole New Testament, or the Old Testament....
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31 Jul 2007 Tue 11:54 pm |
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What has the last line of your post got to do with your point? You can't see/know everything!
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