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word "hafiz"
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04 Aug 2007 Sat 05:01 pm |
Medium size, perfectly shaped and very juicy.
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04 Aug 2007 Sat 10:46 pm |
Quoting AlphaF: hicran,
You obviously can not differentiate between what is insulting, and what is not.
Can you pls keep religious issues out of this panel? That will be much safer..... |
I think the one who cannot differentiate is you..
As someone who believes in the CHRIST, and someone who believes in the BIBLE, and someone who reads IT all the time, I WIll NOT EVER insult the Christianity nor the Christ, nor the Messiah!!!
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 01:36 am |
Quoting cynicmystic: Quoting CANLI: Are there many people who memorize Kur'an in Türkiye ? |
Not any more than those who memorize the bible in the Bible Belt States in the US. I don't know how people get the idea that memorization of the Quran in Turkey is a big issue of importance that needs to be resolved. It is very strange. |
Well,i didnt understand you quite well,to me memorizing Kur'an is something important,and i admire who was able to do it,its not easy really
İ remember i was memorizing the whole 30th part,and a bit of the 29th while i was learing back in school,and unfortunately,i didnt know what a bless i was in untill i forgot it,and start to use the smallest Ayat in my prayer,and now i dont memorize them,except only some Ayat
İts a hard work when you getting older i must say.
So i really appreciate who've done it
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 02:53 pm |
hicran wrote
As someone who believes in the CHRIST, and someone who believes in the BIBLE, and someone who reads IT all the time, I WIll NOT EVER insult the Christianity nor the Christ, nor the Messiah!!!
AlphaF was amused
I also believe in Christ (that he is god's prophet) and the Bible (that it is a holy book): I also read the Bible (ok, not all the time, have other things to do); but guess what that makes me....a muslim. Amazing, is it not?
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 03:02 pm |
Guys,i haven't seen any insult here,do i miss something ? :-S
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 03:18 pm |
Read post number 45. Basically, it is putting down the Bible ... not a good idea if we are to be respectful to each other. In particular the phrase that there is not one true and original Bible (i.e. inferring the Bible we read today is false and not original) is inflammatory.
I know that in general in Turkey it is believed that the Bible has been changed. It is also true that in general in England it is believed that the Koran teaches violence, and that people who are not muslims can be killed. Just because everypne thinks something doesn't make it right. Both these points of view can be argued by scholars for years.
This forum is not the place for arguments based on conventional "wisdom" ... whose book is better than whose etc etc. There is a lot that I could write about the infallibility of the Bible, and all sorts of websites that I could point you to, but I choose not to, because of the rules of this forum, and because this is not the place for it.
So ... is it not reasonable for me to hope that those who want to say the Koran is better than the Bible would respect the same rules?
Maybe it would be good for admin to block this thread. It started out really nice and interesting on the subject of a hafiz.
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 03:29 pm |
Well i agree its not a place for such arguments,this thread about Hafız and better keep it in that direction.
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 03:33 pm |
Shall we not be better off, following the subject of juicy apples?
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 04:18 pm |
Guys,Hicran didnt mean any insult,even he/she has stated this.
He/she meant its not with the CHRIST wording,and that is true,first Bible has been written after CHRIST by 500 yrs.
Thats why there is more than one Bible.
And that is not the case with Kur'an.
We have only one Kur'an with same wording all over the world.
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 04:22 pm |
Quoting CANLI: And that is not the case with Kur'an.
We have only one Kur'an with same wording all over the world. |
Same wording...many, many, many, many interpretations! Which is why is best to talk about apples
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05 Aug 2007 Sun 04:28 pm |
Water melon will work with you ?
İts very hot out here,and i really would appreciate it,specially if its cold , Yummyyyy lol
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