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1.       pap
117 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 03:37 am

Please I just wanna know about present perfect and past simple tense.
Can anyone help me, please?
Thanks a lot in advance.

2.       mylo
856 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 03:39 am

Quoting pap:

Please I just wanna know about present perfect and past simple tense.
Can anyone help me, please?
Thanks a lot in advance.



give us an example my friend.

3.       pap
117 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 03:50 am

Í mean I wanna know their turkish structures. For example: I have learnt
I have swung
I have written
and
I learnt
I swam
I wrote
Thanks.

4.       mylo
856 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 03:57 am

Quoting pap:

Í mean I wanna know their turkish structures. For example: I have learnt
I have swung
I have written
and
I learnt
I swam
I wrote
Thanks.



I learned=ben ogrendim.
I swung=ben salladim.
I have written=ben yazdim
I swam=ben Yuzdum
I wrote=ben yazdim

5.       pap
117 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 04:02 am

Quoting mylo:

Quoting pap:

Í mean I wanna know their turkish structures. For example:

I have written=ben yazdim
I wrote=ben yazdim



So, present prefect and past simple are same?

6.       mylo
856 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 04:13 am

Quoting pap:

Í mean I wanna know their turkish structures. For example: I have learnt
I have swung
I have written
and
I learnt
I swam
I wrote
Thanks.



I'll give you a few examples;
let's take 'I learned';
I learned=Ben ogrendim
I was to learn=Ben ogrenmis oldum
I wanted to learn=Ben ogrenmek istedim/ben ogrenecektim(i was supposed to be learning)
I am learning=Ben ogreniyorum
I will learn=Ben ogrenecegim
I was learning=Ben ogreniniyordum

can you get it from this or would you like more info?

7.       pap
117 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 04:17 am

Quote:



Sorry, I think I need more information about present perfect and past simple tense. I don't know if they are same or different in turkish.

8.       mylo
856 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 04:24 am

hy this site http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/links.htm
there are many links over there,although i am surprised you havent searched this site?

9.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 06:21 am

present tense:
http://www.turkishclass.com/grammar_presentContinuousTense.htm

past tense:
http://www.turkishclass.com/grammar_regularPastTense.htm

10.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 06:38 pm

This is Turkish. You should not find something equivalent which is hundred percent same as other language.

In Turkish, there are two different past forms, one of them is story past, the other is rumor past. They are not related to the exact past and perfect tenses of English.

In my humble opinion, before starting a foreign language, you should get clear of the rules of your native language (or which you use most). Just try to feel the meaning, do not try to find the exact equivalents. Probably you can't find either.

11.       Elisa
0 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 06:40 pm

Quoting caliptrix:

In my humble opinion, before starting a foreign language, you should get clear of the rules of your native language (or which you use most). Just try to feel the meaning, do not try to find the exact equivalents. Probably you can't find either.



+100.........

12.       pap
117 posts
 08 Sep 2007 Sat 08:40 pm

Thanks a lot guys. Little by little things get clear to me.

13.       Dilara
1153 posts
 10 Sep 2007 Mon 02:22 am

Pap I can explain this to you in our mother tongue spanish , just PM me with your specific doubts .
Ojalá te pueda ayudar!
Dilara.

14.       Müjde
posts
 10 Sep 2007 Mon 07:47 pm

Yes these two tenses seem same in Turkish grammar but how about meaning?
If you want to give a present perfect meaning,what can you do?
You can express the meaning thanks to the time expressions, for example:
O duvarı dün boyadım: I painted that wall yesterday.
O duvarı henüz boyadım: I have just painted that wall.

In addition to this,how about past perfect?
Many interpreters translate the past perfect tense into Turkish as -miş'li geçmiş zaman:

O duvarı boyamıştım : I had painted that wall.


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