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23 Sep 2007 Sun 01:15 am |
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Quoting alameda: I look forward to the time we live in peace with each other. As I said before, one's religious beliefs are very personal We should all have the freedom to explore and come to our own decisions on the matter as long as they don't impose on each other, don't you agree? In particular, there are really not a lot of differences in the Abrahamic religions. Look at the heart, not the tail. |
Alameda, then we are on the same page. Please, don't be so easily insulted by everything even when there's no insult! I'm really tired of you and others taking everything personally and making any discussions impossible! If I bashed something somewhere, please show it to me and I'll explain it to you or correct myself.
What are you trying to prove with your quote? I never said that Christians didn't do anything wrong, the question was about who invaded who. I am absolutely not defending Christian barbaric past.
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 01:41 am |
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Quote: Since Islam was founded, Muslims had continuous wars to conquer their neighbors. |
Catwoman,
It's bashing and disgusting to read such things in a language site.
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:02 am |
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Quote: Quoting Müjde: Since Islam was founded, Muslims had continuous wars to conquer their neighbors. |
Catwoman,
It's bashing and disgusting to read such things in a language site.
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Why Müjde? Why is it "bashing" and "disgusting"? Aren't we taught in schools, from age of 7 to 16, these "bashing" and "disgusting" facts over and over again? It is true, with "slightly" different words, like "...thus they spreaded our holy religon over the Arabic peninsula. Happy are they!"? What were their problems to prompt them to spread their religion, if not "conquer"?
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:11 am |
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May we change history?May we change the results of wars?
Over the world, which culture or religion didn't fight for its benefits?
Which country's history book at schools doesn't show itself right?
Each country educates new generations for their benefits.Each of us believes our truths,so anybody cannot persuade the others here.If ıt could be ,there would be one religion and one nation.
Let the world colorful with its different sides.Nobody need to say about the others.
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:23 am |
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Müjde, well said! Aferin !
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:29 am |
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Quoting Müjde: Nobody need to say about the others.
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Sorry but I disagree! Its healthy to criticise actions from the past (and present) in ALL countries and religions. It is WRONG to pretend such things never happened.
You are completely over-reacting. Why did you not protest when discussions were about the Iraq War or the "imperial" West's dubious history?
Its so funny when Turks pretend they have a squeaky clean past ... 
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:30 am |
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:31 am |
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:33 am |
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Quoting vineyards: I am trying to disassociate myself from religious affairs as much as possible. It is merely egos and interests fighting with one another in the disguise of faithfullness.
All holy causes come down to a physical bonus in the form of promised lands or worldly reigns. "I wish all the religions went down the sink." sic K. Ataturk. |
Holier than thou, and quoting your "leader" - sounds just like another religion to me Vineyards, with your God being Ataturk 
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:33 am |
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Quoting Müjde: May we change history?May we change the results of wars? |
Sure! But history is not mentioned to change the past, but is mentioned to form the future according to the past!
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Over the world, which culture or religion didn't fight for its benefits? |
Ooo! So, you are aware of this fact. But why does the fact annoy you when it comes to yours?
Quoting Müjde: Which country's history book at schools doesn't show itselve right? |
So, saying, in a way, "they aren't right" here is "bashing" and "disgusting"?
Quoting Müjde: Each country educates new generations for their benefits.Each of us believes our truths, |
It is likely catwoman doesn't believe your "supposedly" truths. Does this makes her remarks "bashing" and "disgusting"?
Quoting Müjde: so anybody cannot persuade the others here. |
Who is seeking to do so?
Quoting Müjde: Let the world colorful with its different sides.Nobody need to say about the others. |
Why don't you take catwoman as "different colour" then, instead of finding her "bashing" and "disgusting"? Start from this point seeing "the world colorful with different sides"
Quoting Müjde: Nobody need to say about the others. |
I won't mention if only you appled this to yourself as well. It is too late. Only one example though: I was sick of listening to "Crusades" by our holy and rightous religous grumblers! Do/did they need to say about "the others"?
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 02:34 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Müjde: Nobody need to say about the others.
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Sorry but I disagree! Its healthy to criticise actions from the past (and present) in ALL countries and religions. It is WRONG to pretend such things never happened.
You are completely over-reacting. Why did you not protest when discussions were about the Iraq War or the "imperial" West's dubious history?
Its so funny when Turks pretend they have a squeaky clean past ...
Nobody need to say about the others
even you accept or not
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