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Turkish ladies
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07 Oct 2007 Sun 04:44 pm |
Quote: The moodiness and arrogance is all part of the cat-mouse game that men love to play! |
I beg to differ,it may be so in Spain, but in South America girls are expected to play hard-to-get, but moodyness or rudeness are quite a putoff for most men, actually, only those egomaniacs who think they're irresistible would continue to pursue a South American woman who treats you with rudeness or arrogance, because that means almost invariably that she's NOT interested in you.
And judging for the remarks you can often hear from men in Madrid I'd say a lot of Spanish men don't like playing cat-and-mouse with rude or moody girls either. Keep in mind I'm referring to Madrid, women from other regions of Spain, especially Cantabria and Asturias have a much better reputation, but Madrid women aren't too popular in Spain, just like Parisians in France,haha
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07 Oct 2007 Sun 05:37 pm |
Quoting Iceheart_Omnis: Quote: The moodiness and arrogance is all part of the cat-mouse game that men love to play! |
I beg to differ,it may be so in Spain, but in South America girls are expected to play hard-to-get, but moodyness or rudeness are quite a putoff for most men, actually, only those egomaniacs who think they're irresistible would continue to pursue a South American woman who treats you with rudeness or arrogance, because that means almost invariably that she's NOT interested in you.
And judging for the remarks you can often hear from men in Madrid I'd say a lot of Spanish men don't like playing cat-and-mouse with rude or moody girls either. Keep in mind I'm referring to Madrid, women from other regions of Spain, especially Cantabria and Asturias have a much better reputation, but Madrid women aren't too popular in Spain, just like Parisians in France,haha |
Is that why you are an ice-heart?
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07 Oct 2007 Sun 05:45 pm |
That's in reality just a nickname that sounds cool, I myself have little or no patience with rude girls, since I'm more of the romantic kind, trust me I know what's playing cat-and-mouse, and have no problem when someone is hard to get, I can't stand, however,moody or rude girls, like we use to say in Venezuela, if you enjoy rude women don't waste your time dating and go to any ministry or other kind of public office, you'll get enough rudeness there,haha
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07 Oct 2007 Sun 05:49 pm |
Quoting Iceheart_Omnis: That's in reality just a nickname that sounds cool, I myself have little or no patience with rude girls, since I'm more of the romantic kind, trust me I know what's playing cat-and-mouse, and have no problem when someone is hard to get, I can't stand, however,moody or rude girls, like we use to say in Venezuela, if you enjoy rude women don't waste your time dating and go to any ministry or other kind of public office, you'll get enough rudeness there,haha |
Well I do agree with you. Why give someone (male or female) your time and attention if they are rude or arrogant to you.
True about public offices - especially the Tax Office
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07 Oct 2007 Sun 06:38 pm |
I find it difficult to have a discussion using terms such as 'all Spanish women do this' and 'Italian women are like this and that' etc.Surely we can only speak of our own experiences instead of talking using stereotypes which lets face it isnt a helpful discussion context for anyone to learn anything valid.
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08 Oct 2007 Mon 06:12 am |
My very limited impression of Turkish women while I was in Istanbul was that they put A LOT of emphasis on looks and love men's attention. I think that most of them are taught to easily accept male authority, both in the society and in their lives.
One of them whom I got to know a little bit closer, behaved really silly, 'hard to get', was making fuss out of everything, and was talking all the time about nothing - even though she was educated and smart and was really a nice person. She was changing clothes, jewelery and make-up about three times a day... This silliness and game playing seems to be directly related to how good-looking and 'desirable' a woman is considered to be.
At the same time, I met a woman in her 20s who moved out from her parents in Adana and came to Istanbul, found a job, lived with a boyfriend (all of it considered to be unacceptable to her parents) and was strongly critical of male chauvinism and discrimination against women in the workplace in Turkey. She told me that she couldn't get a job in the area of her education because there were no women in that field and she was telling me how angry she was about how policemen on the streets would openly sexually degrade women who wear tight pants or even knee-long skirts.
Another Turkish woman I know is someone who came to the US to get her PhD in electrical engineering. She is not obsessed with looks, is really cool and smart. Another Turkish woman I know is again very strong and almost the dominating type.
However, I heard of many Turkish women who only go to universities in order to later find a rich husband.
The one generalization that I think is accurate is that most Turkish women are unfortunately very much obsessed with looks, which is really not surprising, looking at Turkish media. Overall they are nice and friendly, just like Turks in general.
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08 Oct 2007 Mon 06:48 am |
So what you are saying...Turkish women are human beings... Who would have thought? No one can answer the question in this post! All of the descriptions of the Turkish women can be found in the U.S. too. 1 obsessed with looks (check) 2. university only to find a man (check) 3. smart and career minded (check) 4. act silly so men won't be put off by her smarts (check) I'm sure all these types of women live in Russia too. Urban vs rural makes a big difference too ( for example: Istanbul vs small town in Cappadocia), socioeconomic status, liberal vs conservative. As many have said, all people of a certain country cannot be lumped together and generalized accurately.
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08 Oct 2007 Mon 06:50 am |
Of course they can't be lumped together (and nobody is trying to do that!), but THERE ARE cultural differences. Would you mind being more clear on how asking about "Turkish ladies" implies to you that they're not human beings???
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08 Oct 2007 Mon 05:47 pm |
THE FINE ART OF SARCASM. Geez...yes these people are all human beings, there are all types of people in all countries. Sarcasm doesn't translate well..."they are human being IMAGINE THAT!"
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08 Oct 2007 Mon 06:54 pm |
Quoting catwoman: Of course they can't be lumped together (and nobody is trying to do that!), but THERE ARE cultural differences. Would you mind being more clear on how asking about "Turkish ladies" implies to you that they're not human beings??? |
So....what are the cultural differences? From your post it was not easy to see any. It seems you feel the major defining attribute is:
"The one generalization that I think is accurate is that most Turkish women are unfortunately very much obsessed with looks, which is really not surprising, looking at Turkish media. Overall they are nice and friendly, just like Turks in general."
You don't think that is an attribute shared in other places? How about the epidemic of Anorexia Nervosa,
"Social and environmental factors
Sociocultural studies have highlighted the role of cultural factors, such as the promotion of thinness as the ideal female form in Western industrialised nations, particularly through the media. A recent epidemiological study of 989,871 Swedish residents indicated that gender, ethnicity and socio-economic status were large influences on the chance of developing anorexia, with those with non-European parents among the least likely to be diagnosed with the condition, and those in wealthy, white families being most at risk."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexia_nervosa
Or....Bulimia nervosa?
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08 Oct 2007 Mon 07:06 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Chantal: But how come then that we have so many opinions about what 'turkish men's life' are like? Would be a weird question too... But we're doing it anyway |
I think we have only mentioned Turkish TOURIST Workers . |
Yep gotta agree with you there! hehehehehe!
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