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Nationalism soars in Turkey
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 07:05 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting teaschip1: Is it safe to assume, you would rather not have anyone comment on your post, since your writing in Turkish. :-S |
Teas...don't you come here to study Turkish...what have you been doing all this time?  |
Sitting on my ass. 
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 07:29 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1:
Sitting on my ass. |
The translation of my post is:
I am disgusted from this discussion. Who you think you are, to talk about people like this! Really, if being Tukish means this, to always love Atatürk, to be an extreme nationalist, if its racism, in that case, how unhappy for the one who says I am Turkish!
I was just being a little provocative and angry about how people just talk about other nations as if they are less. The whole discussion is filled with underlying nasty feelings and Im tired of it. For as far as the replies I got, they were all about that not everybody has to behave like this. Ofcourse, thats true, and most Turkish people I met thought like I do, I was just referring to the hatred some people spread in this thread, not to Turkish people in general 
For as far as Erik (sorry I forgot ):
Türk değilim. Ama şunu söyleyebilirim: Ne mutlu Türkiyelim diyene
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 07:34 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting teaschip1:
Sitting on my ass. |
The translation of my post is:
I am disgusted from this discussion. Who you think you are, to talk about people like this! Really, if being Tukish means this, to always love Atatürk, to be an extreme nationalist, if its racism, in that case, how unhappy for the one who says I am Turkish!
I was just being a little provocative and angry about how people just talk about other nations as if they are less. The whole discussion is filled with underlying nasty feelings and Im tired of it. For as far as the replies I got, they were all about that not everybody has to behave like this. Ofcourse, thats true, and most Turkish people I met thought like I do, I was just referring to the hatred some people spread in this thread, not to Turkish people in general
For as far as Erik (sorry I forgot ):
Türk değilim. Ama şunu söyleyebilirim: Ne mutlu Türkiyelim diyene |
Thanks for your explanation..and I agree with your post. Interesting how come they didn't post this in English, it could have brought some good discussions
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 07:36 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting teaschip1:
Sitting on my ass. |
The translation of my post is:
I am disgusted from this discussion. Who you think you are, to talk about people like this! Really, if being Tukish means this, to always love Atatürk, to be an extreme nationalist, if its racism, in that case, how unhappy for the one who says I am Turkish!
I was just being a little provocative and angry about how people just talk about other nations as if they are less. The whole discussion is filled with underlying nasty feelings and Im tired of it. For as far as the replies I got, they were all about that not everybody has to behave like this. Ofcourse, thats true, and most Turkish people I met thought like I do, I was just referring to the hatred some people spread in this thread, not to Turkish people in general
For as far as Erik (sorry I forgot ):
Türk değilim. Ama şunu söyleyebilirim: Ne mutlu Türkiyelim diyene |
I think following poem will go well here :
PÃœLÃœMÃœRÃœN YAŞSIZ KADINI
Pülümürün bir dağ köyünde gördüm onu
yaşını sordum bir giz gibi güldü
kimi seksen dedi köylülerden kimi yüz
yüzüne baktım bir giz gibi güldü
bir asa vardı elinde
bir solmuş kırallığın
kadifeden harmanisi üzerinde
bir hititliydi o bir selçukluydu
bir ermeniydi bir kürttü
bir türk
yaşını sordum bir giz gibi güldü
koluma girdi bir soylu kadınca
tozlu köy yolunda sürüyerek eteğini
beni tek gözlü sarayına götürdü
köy yapısı kulübesinin
zamanı onda yitirdim ben
yitik zamanlara onda eriştim
en soylu yoksulluğun toprak döşeli sarayında
bir taç gibi kondu başıma Türkiyeliliğim
Bülent ECEVİT
I would love someone translates this
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 07:47 pm |
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Exactly. Acknowledge your view points, Catwoman and Vineyards!
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 09:08 pm |
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Hey handsom, I will try!
The ageless lady of Pülümür
I saw her in a mountain village near Pülümür
I asked her her age and she laughed like a mystery
Some said 80, some villagers said 100
I looked at her face, and she laughed like a mystery
She had a sceptre in her hand
A faded kingdom
a blend of velvet
She was a Hittite, a Seljuk
An Armenian, a Kurd
A Turk
I asked her her age and she laughed like a mystery
Like a noble woman she took my arm
Sweeping her skirt along the dusty village lane
She took me to her one-roomed palace
to her village cottage
I lost track of time with her
I found lost time with her
In the palace decorated with the earth of the most noble peasant
I crowned my head with my Turkishness***
Bülent ECEVİT
***Note:
The Turkish word is Türkiyeliliğim : literally my "of-Turkey-ness"
which is different from Türklüğüm: my Turkishness
as it doesn't reflect race, but citizenship.
But I couldn't think how to represent this in English. Anyone have a good suggestion?
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 09:31 pm |
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Wish I could have made Türkiyeli idea better in English. It is the key point uniting Turks, Armenians, Kurds (and even a Brit like me) in this country, but we seem to be only able to express it in a sentence not a word in English.
Deli, this is the point of "happy is he who calls himself a Turk" (or happy is she who calls herself a Turk - Turkish ain't sexist like English!) - it isn't happy is he who is a Turk. Ethnicity and citizenship are different things.
Hopefully the first hearing of the Malatya trial tomorrow morning will prove that in the modern Turkey this is true.
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 09:35 pm |
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Marion I would like to learn your thoughts a 'foreign' who lives in Turkey for ten years and also kind and RESPECTFUL member of this forum.
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 09:37 pm |
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Oh my apologies Prym - you are Turkish and, it appears, actually speak better English than most English
Amended my post 
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21 Nov 2007 Wed 09:40 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Oh my apologies Prym - you are Turkish and, it appears, actually speak better English than most English
Amended my post |
I am open to learn Thankyou
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