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Nationalism soars in Turkey
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 12:41 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Femme_fatal, for my own part I tend to leave you out when I think about Kazakhs.
Because I sometimes can't find a proper word to describe your approach to certain matters. |
well, what can i say? should i start pretending in order to please you?
you said you have kazakh friends, well, enjoy them. they have the same mentality like yours, dont they? thats why you like them? they flatter you, you flatter them. a club of self adorers! 
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 12:44 pm |
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Thehandsom, censorship should not be categorically rejected. For example, I must not be able to defend racism, I must not be allowed to praise Hitler, Mussolini and Franka when their malicious deeds are still in the memories of their peoples.
It is because of this soft, passivist tolerance to those aggressive ideologies that many naive youngsters are getting into the quagmire of ultra nationalism, racism and ethnic hatred. That's probably also why we keep producing hooligans who pass for football fans. Just as they must be barred entry to stadiums, the remarks of those extremists should also be censored, the place they congragate should be raided in and their mafia like organizations must be collapsed. Many of those are turned into urban bandits extorting money from people and intimidating laborers when they try to defend their rights.
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 01:01 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards: Femme_fatal, for my own part I tend to leave you out when I think about Kazakhs.
Because I sometimes can't find a proper word to describe your approach to certain matters. |
well, what can i say? should i start pretending in order to please you?
you said you have kazakh friends, well, enjoy them. they have the same mentality like yours, dont they? thats why you like them? they flatter you, you flatter them. a club of self adorers! |
No, you don't have to pretend. You don't have to flatter me either. Just like anyone else, I have my strengths and weaknesses. You are welcome to be as harsh in your criticism of me as you wish. I will try to be as down to Earth as you are and continue to leave you out from my regard of the Kazakhs.
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 01:10 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards: Femme_fatal, for my own part I tend to leave you out when I think about Kazakhs.
Because I sometimes can't find a proper word to describe your approach to certain matters. |
well, what can i say? should i start pretending in order to please you?
you said you have kazakh friends, well, enjoy them. they have the same mentality like yours, dont they? thats why you like them? they flatter you, you flatter them. a club of self adorers! |
No, you don't have to pretend. You don't have to flatter me either. Just like anyone else, I have my strengths and weaknesses. You are welcome to be as harsh in your criticism of me as you wish. I will try to be as down to Earth as you are and continue to leave you out from my regard of the Kazakhs. |
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 03:41 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting AEnigma III: I hate censorship, but I'm starting to wonder if the majority of this thread should be deleted by Admins. These people are disgusting... |
this is a bad idea!
which people are disgusting?
its very interesting. let us learn more about turks and their mentality. as you say they are showing their colors. how would otherwise you would get to know them? by flattering them? |
I have to disagree with you on this one 
I think racists who talk of pure blood ARE disgusting. I think comments like "let us learn more about Turks and their mentality" is as bad as saying "let us learn more about Kurds and their mentality" - its racist.
Luckily, these people are extreme and DON'T represent all Turks.
The reason I think their posts should be deleted is because a public forum should not be a abused as a channel to promote your extreme fundamentalist ideas - particularly when it is about race. It's pretty clear that the TC member who posted about "pure blood" joined this site solely for the purpose of promoting his extreme political views.
I am always happy to debate any subject with anyone here - including religion and culture. These are things people CHOOSE to do and, in my opinion, I have a right to challenge your belief! However to criticise or debate an entire race of people who are born to that race WITHOUT CHOICE and have differing views, politics and religions is simply giving nationalist extremists a public voice - they don't deserve it.
In addition, the trend of Turkish members to continue a conversation in Turkish (despite the offical language of this website being English except in language forum) shows that they are unable to defend their ideas with objectors and is FAR RUDER than anything I have seen on this forum, or been accused of!
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 03:56 pm |
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wounds for to cure never for make it worse by scratching..
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 04:07 pm |
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aenigma,
come on, i dont think he could promote anythin positive by his disgusting posts. hes working against himself, against his own politics. so how can he promote?
this is a forum for everyone. so let everyone express their thoughts.
by deleting their posts we refuse the reality.
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 04:12 pm |
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some dirty hiden hands playing a very bad game on our lovely country for creat ethnical raicsm or belief fights,but i bet they will never get their bad aims and our people will be hand by hand and heart to heart more then ever with their ethnic or belief diversities,and Turkey will be a good sample for all countries by the cool diplomacies for fix this problem..
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 04:16 pm |
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BTW, where are those defenders of GOOD MANNERS when mr young turk erlik was behaving nasty towards all his opponents?
wheres ALAMEDA with her lessons of politeness? or does she choose when it suits?
wheres CANLI? why didnt she criticise erlik?
wheres marion? marion, how are you doin darling?
wheres MRX, the prince of peace and love?
or UMUT?  who speaks of respect so much, but seems he does so when its about his religion?
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 04:20 pm |
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If Turkish elders fail to teach their youngsters ways of AlphaF, somebody else will come and indocrtrinate likes of Erlik in weird ways...
He is basically sincere in his love for the motherland, but he is being led to serve others, himself unaware...
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 04:23 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: BTW, where are those defenders of GOOD MANNERS when mr young turk erlik was behaving nasty towards all his opponents?
wheres ALAMEDA with her lessons of politeness? or does she choose when it suits?
wheres CANLI? why didnt she criticise erlik?
wheres marion? marion, how are you doin darling?
wheres MRX, the prince of peace and love?
or UMUT? who speaks of respect so much, but seems he does so when its about his religion?
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