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Nationalism soars in Turkey
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:37 pm |
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Quoting Erlik Han: For the ...... nicknamed vineyards ( Fill in the blank on your own ).
Like all Soviet comrades, i got used to living conditions here.
Respectable Nikita Sergeyeviç, please help me, i want to be a Soviet Citizen.
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Mr Inn.
Don't bother to continue.
You can be left wing, you can be right wing, you can be centrist. That doesn't stop you from being a Turk. That is what democracy means.
I have become a Turkish citizen. Does that mean that I am a traitor to the UK? Has the UK thrown me out? No.
A traitor is someone like Kim Philby and his friends who sold national secrets (military information etc) to the Russians. Not a poet!
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:38 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal:
this is a forum for everyone. so let everyone express their thoughts.
by deleting their posts we refuse the reality. |
Point taken.. I dont think there is any use in putting effort in trying to make these people change their minds, because Im afraid its deep down inside. But we should try to avoid they change other peoples minds..
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:41 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting Erlik Han: Quoting AEnigma III: 
................anyone fancy a cup of tea? 
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The truth hurts . |
Hurts?  I have little knowledge about him, other than his poetry and have no reason to defend or attack him! I just got bored with your last post - it was not up to your usual standard
I am trying to see what it is in your post that you are using in your attack of him though. He was a communist? He was in prison? |
If i had said ,he fingered the queen, would you change your mind ?
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:43 pm |
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Quoting Erlik Han: If i had said ,he fingered the queen, would you change your mind ? |
Nice turn of phrase you have.
I am just trying to understand your point Erlik. Because I don't think even you know it. You just got upset that Vineyards had the audacity to praise him 
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:46 pm |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey
Mr Inn.
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Not Inn, but Khan.
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:50 pm |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey: Has the UK thrown me out? No. |
They will (next time you visit) if you continue to try and force me to learn Turkish 
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:53 pm |
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Dear racist chauvinist Erlik Han
if you ever go abroad you will see most people like turkish and wonder about Turkey because of Nazim Hikmet and Orhan Pamuk who nationalists hate!!! and you will realise even their poets or novels will serve turkey more than all you nationalists do. what an irony
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:54 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Dear racist chauvinist Erlik Han
if you ever go abroad you will see most people like turkish and wonder about Turkey because of Nazim Hikmet and Orhan Pamuk who nationalists hate!!! and you will realise even their poets or novels will serve turkey more than all you nationalists do. what an irony |
Very true 
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:57 pm |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey:
Mr Inn.
Don't bother to continue.
You can be left wing, you can be right wing, you can be centrist. That doesn't stop you from being a Turk. That is what democracy means.
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He was Polish. And while the Turkey Republic were announcing to world what was he doing ? He was busy with communism in Soviet Union. He used to write good peoms huh ? Stay tuned for my upcoming wiritings about him.
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:58 pm |
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Do you think, you know what soviet means? Let me tell you: you don't. It means: "an elected governmental council in a communist country" You are trying to understand the world in line with the narrow vision of your master wolves who made you believe you are serving your country this way.
What is the virtue of the "free market economy" model or half a dozen more we tried in the past. Did we develop them all by ourselves. Were they not American. what is the big problem here? Is it because we shouldn't have tried to import a regime from Russians? Do you mean we should always support the US because theirs is a good regime for us?
Nazim defended the communist ideology and served time in prison for his ideals. Anyone reading his poems or plays will understand what a patriot he was. He served time in prison because he was helping his nation wake up from a big sleep. He meant to free them from the colonists exploiting its resources and making the people backward.
In other words he was Don Quichot fighting against wind mills. Is it easy to fight against the wind mills? It is not. If it were we wouldn't have people like you in this century.
Did Nazim not make any mistakes? Maybe he did. The capacity for making mistakes stems from the courage to take risks. He was at the forefront of his society in his lifetime therefore he was the first to make both the mistakes and the right things. But of course, you cannot think without labeling things and people. Your way of thinking necessitates satans and enemies to bolster your unity.
Rather than be a subject of a master wolf and be full of hatred as you are, I prefer to be a fan of Nazim who was a master poet.
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 08:59 pm |
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Quoting Erlik Han: Stay tuned for my upcoming wiritings about him. |
Holding my breath with excited, impatient anticipation of your next, valuable, intelligent post
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