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Nationalism soars in Turkey
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40.       ciko
784 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:40 pm

Quoting AlphaF:


Kurds with Turkish citienship must make a decision. If they are not happy to side with their brothers loyal to Republic of Turkia, it is time for them to go and join PKK fighting in the mountains.



who do you think you are? i am a kurdish and my fathers have been living in this land for 2000 years..turkish citizenship is not a gift from god to kurdish. i am not happy with your god damned state's politics..but yet i am here and not going anywhere...and noone has right to tell me " GO" ...

41.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:44 pm

Kurds are no gift from god to Turks either....Go for the mountains boy, unless you are as honest as your grand fathers...be honest for god's sake,....

42.       Serdar07
428 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:45 pm

Always " Nationalism " giving free of charge proofs that it's " A shame for the Humanity history." It's nothing than making the mass cry for more blood!

43.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:47 pm

I am not happy with most of my state's politics either...but that is something else..

We shall get rid of PKK first (not the Kurds as an etnic group)...we can then try and improve the internal politics as well...together.

44.       ciko
784 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:49 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Kurds are no gift from god to Turks either....Go for the mountains boy, unless you are as honest as your grand fathers...be honest for god's sake,....



well i was in mountains in army in sirnak and did my service very well for this country.. thank god i am still able to criticize my country..unlike you! and thank god all i do for my country is not only talking on such sites.

45.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:50 pm

Serdaro, wake up !

You now have no nation, no country and no nationalism. Happy?

If USA leaves today...you will pay the price of trying to carve a piece of Iraq for yourselves, tomorrow ! Traitors never win...

46.       Serdar07
428 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:54 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Serdaro, wake up !

You now have no nation, no country and no nationalism. Happy?

If USA leaves today...you will pay the price of trying to carve a piece of Iraq for yourselves, tomorrow ! Traitors never win...


It's a very good idea to wake up... thanks
But I hope that waking up not leading for shedding blood just because others belong to another nationality.

47.       teaschip
3870 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:55 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting AlphaF:

Mss. Rice will be in Turkia tomorrow..She will probably

1) state that US is against all terror, but PKK has only killed 30000 up to now, including some babies, teachers, nurses and many innocent bystanders and ask what the problem is.
2) suggest that Turkia be patient,
3) Confirm continiued necessity for mutual cooperation against terrorism,
4) Suggest a joint comission be formed (including some Eskimo representatives) to discuss and resolve the issue within the next 5 years,
5) Swear that the US survelliance sattelites must have missed the recent PKK infiltration into Turkia, which resulted in death of 15 Turkish soldiers,
6) Complain that US can not find PKK telephone numbers in the telephone directory...and request Turkish advise on methods to get in touch with the bandits..

I wonder what Turks will say in response to this fair and rational US approach to the problem.



Most likely 2) Didn't you know this was a virtue..



IF THE TURK OF LOWEST VIRTUE DECIDES TO IMMIGRATE TO USA, THE AVERAGE VIRTUE LEVELS IN BOTH COUNTRIES WILL INCREASE.

CHEYENNE PROVERB (Can you blame them?)



Well I'm happy to report that we have many Turks here in the U.S. and I wouldn't refer them to the lowest virtue in Turkey. I happen to believe they are most likely the smartest on the chain.

48.       MrX67
2540 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:56 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Kurds are no gift from god to Turks either....Go for the mountains boy, unless you are as honest as your grand fathers...be honest for god's sake,....

we living side by side since hundred years with our kurdish siblings brother,so they r one of main pieces of this great mosaic,so why this anger and why this attack about a few terrorists and international terrorist organizations???

49.       teaschip
3870 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:57 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Serdaro, wake up !

You now have no nation, no country and no nationalism. Happy?

If USA leaves today...you will pay the price of trying to carve a piece of Iraq for yourselves, tomorrow ! Traitors never win...



God forbid that Turkey would come to their rescue!

50.       portokal
2516 posts
 02 Nov 2007 Fri 04:58 pm

Quoting MrX67:


theres never an ethnic problems in Turkey,theres only a few dirty hands who has some benefits about this sibling fight,and pity this few mostly more noisey and powerfull then the biggest part of peacfull,tolerated people.



but...but... if kurdish houses are marked, if there are disapprovals of turkish-kurdish marriages, if someone is blamed its appartenance to a nationality then THERE IS AN ETHNIC PROBLEM!!!!! And if the benefit goes only to a few dirty hands, it means that all nationalists are but victims of manipulation?????

Quoting MrX67:


thats the main problem handsome brother,our some kurdish brothers and sisters feeling theirself still as others



if they have an identity, as a nationality, then THEY ARE DIFFERENT!!!!! But what harm is in being different????
The issue is to integrate differencees towards a peacefull living together. But cooperation never begins by denying the existence of the ETHNICAL problem. MrX, ignoring ethnicity whith the already existing ethnical conflicts deprives minorities from the right to be different. That causes a more deffensive behaviour, among with an increased tendency to preserve the differentciating values. This is an another cause of the social isolation of minority groups.

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