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10.       Elisa
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 26 Jan 2006 Thu 07:16 pm

Quoting sophie:

Why are you all so cruel huh? Haven't you ever done the same?
Don't we all copy paste lyrics to express our love with? And how many times haven't we memorized love quotes to impress our lovers? Ok, some of us have the potential to write down our own thoughts, in a nice, fluent way. But some don't have this talent. Shall we shoot them just because they are not poets?
This man has just written a letter. If he did the copy-paste trick, means that he spent time to find it and copy it. Otherwise, he would have written a simple 'seni seviyorum bir tamem' and he would get himself out of trouble. I didn't notice him saying that this was his own literature. And Shylo was happy enough to receive it. She said it herself, that she was going to ask him if this was a song or something. But that didn't seem to bother her. So why shall we break her heart and generalize about copy-paste lives?
But then again, this is just my humble opinion....



I agree, we're not all great writers. I could use a poem to show my love to someone, because that poet can put things into words better than I can. But then I would at least say that the letter/poem is a quote, and mention the name of the original writer. That's only fair, both to the one who took the effort and has the talent to create a poem, and to the one I love!
I'd never just use something someone else wrote and pretend that I was the one who wrote it.
So I think it's OK to use someone else's words, as long as you admit that they're not your own!

Elisa

11.       sophie
2712 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 07:19 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

you know what!! ppl are not changing... just the way they use are changing and it makes them lazy and the internet is the one that makes them lazy.. like in the past ppl was finding poems and love words to write eachother from dusty books from newspapers...
but its a shame to write whole letter to the other maybe you read and to have some spirit... but its really no good to get whoole letter...



Sui I ve seen your posts and I can understand how much you must be loving music. So, answer me please, honestly, haven't you ever sent lyrics to a girlfriend to express your feelings to her? Haven't you used the copy-paste trick, copying them from internet and sending them to her?
I have done that, even to express my love to a greek man, although I can use my language damn well and I am talented enough to write my own thoughts on paper.
Haven't you ever done the same?

12.       sophie
2712 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 07:25 pm

Quoting Elisa:



I agree, we're not all great writers. I could use a poem to show my love to someone, because that poet can put things into words better than I can. But then I would at least say that the letter/poem is a quote, and mention the name of the original writer. That's only fair, both to the one who took the effort and has the talent to create a poem, and to the one I love!
I'd never just use something someone else wrote and pretend that I was the one who wrote it.
So I think it's OK to use someone else's words, as long as you admit that they're not your own!

Elisa



Yes honey, I know what you mean and I totally agree with you. But she was going to ask him, and he may have already told her that it wasnt his own letter.
And also, keep in mind that those 2 people can't use the same language to communicate. He just sent a letter...it's as simple as that. Trying to explain where he got it from, would be useless and it would ruin the magic.
Maybe he is one of those dishonest men that we have talked about many times in this Class. But what if he is not? Everybody is innocent, unless his guilt is proved

13.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 07:41 pm

Quoting sophie:


Sui I ve seen your posts and I can understand how much you must be loving music. So, answer me please, honestly, haven't you ever sent lyrics to a girlfriend to express your feelings to her? Haven't you used the copy-paste trick, copying them from internet and sending them to her?
I have done that, even to express my love to a greek man, although I can use my language damn well and I am talented enough to write my own thoughts on paper.
Haven't you ever done the same?



"music and letter" are not the same things to express feelings yeah i did it send lyrics.. becoz i live with music it is my must in the life.. but i always wrote my own words when writing a letter.. so be careful about comparing the things.. i am not against to get spirit.. but its not that true to take whole..

14.       Elisa
0 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 07:52 pm

Quoting sophie:

Quoting Elisa:



I agree, we're not all great writers. I could use a poem to show my love to someone, because that poet can put things into words better than I can. But then I would at least say that the letter/poem is a quote, and mention the name of the original writer. That's only fair, both to the one who took the effort and has the talent to create a poem, and to the one I love!
I'd never just use something someone else wrote and pretend that I was the one who wrote it.
So I think it's OK to use someone else's words, as long as you admit that they're not your own!



Yes honey, I know what you mean and I totally agree with you. But she was going to ask him, and he may have already told her that it wasnt his own letter.
And also, keep in mind that those 2 people can't use the same language to communicate. He just sent a letter...it's as simple as that. Trying to explain where he got it from, would be useless and it would ruin the magic.
Maybe he is one of those dishonest men that we have talked about many times in this Class. But what if he is not? Everybody is innocent, unless his guilt is proved



I understand what you mean too. But I would feel very disappointed if I would realize that one of the reasons I love a guy is his talent for writing beautiful things, and then have to realize that it were never his words but someone elses..
But in this case, my way of thinking may be hypothetical indeed

15.       erdinc
2151 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 10:50 pm

Quoting mltm:

Ohhhh, I can't believe this. Again?!!!
http://www.cikolata.de/askmektup.htm

The lines aren't his.

why don't these men, especially turkish ones, try to write something theirs and express themselves with their own words?!

They copy-paste, copy-paste... Even their loves are copy-paste.



Çok güzel söyledin Meltem. For the msn generation even love is a copy-paste.

16.       *~*sian*~*
14 posts
 26 Jan 2006 Thu 10:55 pm

I would like it for someone to write me lyrics or a poem if they had really thought about the wording.........but wouldn't be impressed if they tried to pass it off as their own.

Then again there are worst things a man could do to upset me

17.       shylo
59 posts
 27 Jan 2006 Fri 09:04 am

I am very surprised with the amount of responses I have received. I haven't spoken with my guy yet and surely I will ask him whether it is a poem or a letter he had written. Also, I would like to say that I enjoyed reading all of the responses. Shylo

18.       shylo
59 posts
 27 Jan 2006 Fri 09:04 am

I am very surprised with the amount of responses I have received. I haven't spoken with my guy yet and surely I will ask him whether it is a poem or a letter he had written. Also, I would like to say that I enjoyed reading all of the responses. Shylo

19.       Mary83
178 posts
 27 Jan 2006 Fri 10:53 am

Hi everybody!I am new here...and i need your help My boyfriend sent me this message" Benim bitanecik bebegim" and i cant understand the whole meaning, i just dont know what "bitanecik" means.. if there is out there someone who can help me, i will be very grateful..


Thenk you very much!!!

20.       yabanci09
56 posts
 27 Jan 2006 Fri 11:03 am

I agree with Elisa, if people are going to copy and paste poems and send them in letters they should atleast say who the poem is by, that way maybe the reader can appreciate it and understand it a bit more. However, I have to ask what is the point of copying and pasting a very abstract peice of Turkish literature if the reicever of the letter cannot understand Turkish and has to get it translated into another language? Because with such abstract poems its difficult to convey the meaning and feel of the poem, so really whats the point at all? Its like sending a stanza of shakespeare to someone who doesnt understand English.

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