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British Teacher Faces Flogging for Teddy Bear's Name!
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20.       femme_fatal
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 29 Nov 2007 Thu 09:01 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Elisabeth:

The teacher was sentenced to 15 days and prison and will be deported.



A light sentence I feel. This woman was clearly possessed by the devil and her nasty anti-Islamic act should have been punished by public flogging and 5 years in prison!


+10000

21.       AEnigma III
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 01 Dec 2007 Sat 12:42 am

Protestors now calling for her death. Can anyone...ANYONE here explain to me why these people, who call themselves religious, want to see the death of a woman who made an innocent mistake in letting children name a toy Mohammad? This religion that we are constantly told is non-violent, beautiful, forgiving...

The quote at the end of this report is ironic ..."they feel their religion has been slighted"!!! It has - but not by a teddy bear, but by these extremist muslims.

This "evil" woman's only comment? That she does not wish this to cause any bad feelings towards Islam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7120000/newsid_7121200/7121278.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&asb=1&news=1&bbcws=1

22.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Dec 2007 Sat 01:47 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

Protestors now calling for her death. Can anyone...ANYONE here explain to me why these people, who call themselves religious, want to see the death of a woman who made an innocent mistake in letting children name a toy Mohammad? This religion that we are constantly told is non-violent, beautiful, forgiving...

The quote at the end of this report is ironic ..."they feel their religion has been slighted"!!! It has - but not by a teddy bear, but by these extremist muslims.

This "evil" woman's only comment? That she does not wish this to cause any bad feelings towards Islam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7120000/newsid_7121200/7121278.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&asb=1&news=1&bbcws=1



I am at a loss to explain how these people preceive religion anymore than I could explain witch burning. An uneducated population who have been fed propaganda to distract from leaders who are not doing the best for their people?

23.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Dec 2007 Sat 02:30 am

Quoting alameda:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Protestors now calling for her death. Can anyone...ANYONE here explain to me why these people, who call themselves religious, want to see the death of a woman who made an innocent mistake in letting children name a toy Mohammad? This religion that we are constantly told is non-violent, beautiful, forgiving...

The quote at the end of this report is ironic ..."they feel their religion has been slighted"!!! It has - but not by a teddy bear, but by these extremist muslims.

This "evil" woman's only comment? That she does not wish this to cause any bad feelings towards Islam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7120000/newsid_7121200/7121278.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&asb=1&news=1&bbcws=1



I am at a loss to explain how these people preceive religion anymore than I could explain witch burning. An uneducated population who have been fed propaganda to distract from leaders who are not doing the best for their people?


Exactly. Sickening that we still hear about behavior that belongs to dark ages.

24.       femme_fatal
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 01 Dec 2007 Sat 04:09 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Protestors now calling for her death. Can anyone...ANYONE here explain to me why these people, who call themselves religious, want to see the death of a woman who made an innocent mistake in letting children name a toy Mohammad? This religion that we are constantly told is non-violent, beautiful, forgiving...

The quote at the end of this report is ironic ..."they feel their religion has been slighted"!!! It has - but not by a teddy bear, but by these extremist muslims.

This "evil" woman's only comment? That she does not wish this to cause any bad feelings towards Islam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7120000/newsid_7121200/7121278.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&asb=1&news=1&bbcws=1



I am at a loss to explain how these people preceive religion anymore than I could explain witch burning. An uneducated population who have been fed propaganda to distract from leaders who are not doing the best for their people?


Exactly. Sickening that we still hear about behavior that belongs to dark ages.


correct!
and imagine millions live in darks ages.
the whole middle east, africa and some muslim areas in europe.
in london for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKUoxbR9mwA

or this, kiiling non-muslims is ok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4&feature=related

25.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 01 Dec 2007 Sat 04:34 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

and imagine millions live in darks ages.
the whole middle east, africa and some muslim areas in europe.
in london for example



+10000
When incidents like this happen, we are told by Turkish members that countries like Iran are the exception....then we are told countries like Saudi Arabia are the exception....then we are told countries like the Sudan are the exception. On THIS occasion, we have received no comments from our muslim members, so how do we interpret this silence?

I think that the truth is, with Islamic countries, it is only Turkey who are the exception.

26.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Dec 2007 Sat 06:48 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting femme_fatal:

and imagine millions live in darks ages.
the whole middle east, africa and some muslim areas in europe.
in london for example



+10000
When incidents like this happen, we are told by Turkish members that countries like Iran are the exception....then we are told countries like Saudi Arabia are the exception....then we are told countries like the Sudan are the exception. On THIS occasion, we have received no comments from our muslim members, so how do we interpret this silence?

I think that the truth is, with Islamic countries, it is only Turkey who are the exception.



And why dont you find it by yourself if you were interested?

İ mean,as you see no use of debating,everyone has something in his mind and stick to it...so its useless to debat about it.
So,you can find out for yourself,and choose what you want to believe.
İm not saying you visit every single country altho you are welcome,but there is an easier way,you can switch your TV channeles for a while,and see for yourself how those people look like,live or act,you will have a better idea even if you dont understand the language !
Some are true some are not,same as any Media,but at least you will have a better idea,or another idea than the one you used to see and hear!
Every country here in the Middle East has channeles on the satellite,if not many,they at least has one,even poor countries
They have formal channeles ,and private ones,and you can find most of them on Nilesat and there are some on Arabsat
Usually formal channeles are boring 'ours is' and private channeles are much nicer
İ dont know much about others,but we have lots of formal channeles and lots of privates too,and many of them are free,no need special cards or anything.
So,you will see,and then think what you want,and i guess that is better too.

As for İran and Saudi Arabia, yes they are the exception,because its the system of the country
As for Sudan,that is ignorance,and that is something else !
They think they are defending their religion this way..someone put this stupid idea in their minds and the rest have follow,if they give it just small thought
They are calling their son's Mohamed too,kids when fight together,hit eachother,call bad names to eachothers,then they are insulting Rasul Mohammed SAV ?!
Why dont they make it a big deal then and its happening everyday ?!
That is stupidity ,and someone using it there !

27.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 09:17 pm

It appears the the teacher made it home safe and sound after a pardon from the president of Sudan.....I just can't imagine the hell this poor woman was put thru for such a ridiculous reason.

28.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 09:20 pm

I have to admit that UK muslims were among the first to condemn the action in Sudan and have supported her release.

Two of our muslim peers were able to secure her release.

29.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 09:21 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I have to admit that UK muslims were among the first to condemn the action in Sudan and have supported her release.

Two of our muslim peers were able to secure her release.



SHOCK AND DISBELIEF....but I am so glad to hear that!

30.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 09:25 pm

Unfortunately, it has created bad feeling towards Islam in the UK. Although we know there are extreme Islamic states, unfortunately the countries involved ALWAYS justify their actions in the name of Islam - so people tend to associate ALL muslims with such actions.

I don't know of any other religion that does this. For example, as a country, our bad "deeds" are the fault of the "British" or "the west" but never as "Christians"!!

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