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100.       E.T.K.O
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 30 Dec 2007 Sun 06:48 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting E.T.K.O:

You revealed your color in the end.


What is it... blue?



According to your helpless and ridicilous opinion,insulting (swearing)is not to being kicked out reason from a site, so why people get deleted by this reason ?

Turkey is not backyard of US. Neither Russian communism nor US imperialism does not go in Turkey. Tell this freedom of speech tale to the banana republics. In Turkey everyone has own rights , when someone insult you, you can sue that guy. Unlike the US , when everyone sue the firms to extort money.

Sorry but, Turkey is none of your business Misses I-created-the-small-hills. You can go and busy with your own imperialism. This is Turkey and it has own rules and will be the same. If you don't like it , try to bring some more democracy , if you dare.

101.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 07:53 am

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Sorry but, Turkey is none of your business Misses I-created-the-small-hills. You can go and busy with your own imperialism. This is Turkey and it has own rules and will be the same. If you don't like it , try to bring some more democracy , if you dare.


In the same sense as "those who bring democracy" are none of YOUR business.

102.       E.T.K.O
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 30 Dec 2007 Sun 07:58 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Sorry but, Turkey is none of your business Misses I-created-the-small-hills. You can go and busy with your own imperialism. This is Turkey and it has own rules and will be the same. If you don't like it , try to bring some more democracy , if you dare.


In the same sense as "those who bring democracy" are none of YOUR business.



Who cares about those ? Turkey is my own ground, sell your riff-raffs at another door.

Feel insulted. Sue me then.

103.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 08:04 am

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Who cares about those ? Turkey is my own ground, sell your riff-raffs at another door.


Except that you don't decide who will talk what about your country. We have this idea here of "freedom of thought" and "freedom of speech".
Sure, I won't change your country, but I can say whatever I think about it.

104.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 11:52 am

Quoting E.T.K.O:

I was not mentioning about politicians, you know it. Anytime we critises our government politics too. Don't you know the our well-known saying while drinks flow is "what will happen the things going-on in Turkey?". But what i am saying is different than politics. It is different to support the government or not, than how you like your own ground. I do not like at all my present government, but that is not a reason to hate of or to be against my own ground. I am talking about real values, not temprorary things like governments. Could you say the Falkland War was shameful for UK ? Could you say , they were not martyrs ? I As a Turk, this is none of my business, I try to not to mention about Brit's or other country's inner issues as much as possible. Except when i get pissed off

However, i thought "quiet desperation" is the English way instead of "critise ourselves" .Pink Floyd was saying this in theirs song.

Finally, If i were a Brit who on command, You would miss Maggie alot. lol



Oh dear! I must learn to simplify my answers to you "Politics" does not merely mean "governments" or "politicans" it concerns just about everything where a policy has been made for a country (politics is derived from the word policy). This includes everything from wars to the price of bread! lol

Your question was would I talk about my views outside of this forum and I answered you!

105.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 11:57 am

Quoting E.T.K.O:

( By the way go to France and say Armenian genocide never applied or about what happened in Algeria in the past, you know it is a normal country according to you )



It is very funny reading your east/west mentality. Why do you think we are responsible for what France or any other western countries does or thinks? Direct your question to the French! To me, France is another country, same as Turkey. We have no "EU bond" - only politicians try to have that!!

106.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 12:02 pm

Quoting E.T.K.O:

Why don't you respect my freedom of speech then ? Freedom is belong the mass which consist of ones like you ?



Your freedom of speech HAS been respected!!! Has your post been deleted? Have police come to arrest you for violating any rule similar to your country?

Freedom of speech does not mean that people have to agree with you!!!!! lol lol lol

107.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 01:43 pm

http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/firstamendment/advocates/advocates.htm

http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/firstamendment/advocates/advocates.htm
all entries below are taken from dictionary.com

Main Entry: free speech
Function: noun
1 : speech that is protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
2 : FREEDOM OF SPEECH


crit•i•cize ˈkrɪt əˌsaɪz - Show Spelled Pronunciation[krit-uh-sahyz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -cized, -ciz•ing.
–verb (used with object)
1. to censure or find fault with.
2. to judge or discuss the merits and faults of: to criticize three novels in one review.
–verb (used without object)
3. to find fault; judge unfavorably or harshly.
4. to make judgments as to merits and faults.
Also, especially British, crit•i•cise.

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[Origin: 1640–50; CRITIC + -IZE ]

in•sult v. ɪnˈsʌlt; n. ˈɪn sʌlt - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v. in-suhlt; n. in-suhlt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object)
1. to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.
2. to affect as an affront; offend or demean.
3. Archaic. to attack; assault.
–verb (used without object)
4. Archaic. to behave with insolent triumph; exult contemptuously (usually fol. by on, upon, or over).
–noun
5. an insolent or contemptuously rude action or remark; affront.
6. something having the effect of an affront: That book is an insult to one's intelligence.
7. Medicine/Medical.
a. an injury or trauma.
b. an agent that inflicts this.

8. Archaic. an attack or assault.
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[Origin: 1560–70; < L insultāre to jump on, insult, equiv. to in- IN-2 + -sultāre, comb. form of saltāre to jump; see SALTANT ]

—Related forms
in•sult•a•ble, adjective
in•sult•er, noun

—Synonyms 1. offend, scorn, injure, abuse. 5. offense, outrage. INSULT, INDIGNITY, AFFRONT, SLIGHT imply an act that injures another's honor, self-respect, etc. INSULT implies such insolence of speech or manner as deeply humiliates or wounds one's feelings and arouses to anger. INDIGNITY is esp. used of inconsiderate, contemptuous treatment toward one entitled to respect. AFFRONT implies open disrespect or offense shown, as it were, to the face. SLIGHT may imply inadvertent indifference or disregard, which may also indicate ill-concealed contempt.
—Antonyms 1, 5. compliment.

bick•er1 ˈbɪk ər - Show Spelled Pronunciation[bik-er] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used without object)
1. to engage in petulant or peevish argument; wrangle: The two were always bickering.
2. to run rapidly; move quickly; rush; hurry: a stream bickering down the valley.
3. to flicker; glitter: The sun bickered through the trees.
–noun
4. an angry, petty dispute or quarrel; contention.
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[Origin: 1250–1300; ME bikeren < ? ]




108.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 02:31 pm

Ermmm thank you, I never knew there was such a thing as a dictionary.

Please note the the first amendment only applies to the US.

109.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 02:36 pm

In other democratic countries there is no responsibility of the 'state' to decide on the control of Freedom of Speech, unlike the US.

In most countries it is considered a human right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

110.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 03:48 pm

Quote:



Please note the the first amendment only applies to the US.



Thanks AEnigma. My purpose was to try and illustrate how different phrases can mean different things depending on where one lives or ones point of view. Your contribution has helped.

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