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A HISTORICAL NAVAL TREATY
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:14 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: This history....Do you want to forget history? |
History is fascinating - we should LEARN from it, not use it as points against eachother.
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:16 pm |
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May be not, when it works against Turks...Is that what you mean?
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:19 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: May be not when it works against Turks...Is that what you mean? |
No. We are constantly being told from Turkish members that Turks cannot be held responsible for what happened BEFORE Ataturk.
It just seems you post your history lessons to provoke yet more anti-west feeling. I can retaliate as much as you like with stories about the east, but it has all become rather tiresome.
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:27 pm |
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True, the guy before Ataturk was your great friend.
He left Istanbul as a guest in a British naval ship, along with the rest of the fleeing Brits.
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:30 pm |
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Alpha, I assure you that all the things you hate about Britain, past and present, are shared by me. I am the first to criticise my country.
However the smug, arrogant way that Turks feel about whiter-than-white Turkey and their distorted view of Turkish history makes me sometimes try to show you another side to your argument.
Silly me for trying  It is impossible to discuss rational things with the brain-washed. It is like trying to talk with a terrorist.
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:34 pm |
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The point is...it makes me sick to my stomach here, listening to irresponsible voices accusing Turks of relocating Armenians by about 300 kilometers - the idea being their removal from cross fire - even if the operation was not very succesful and some were hurt: While they should know that their grandfathers were decent slave merchants.
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:34 pm |
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Shall we discuss now where slavery originated? 
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:37 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: The point is...it makes me sick to my stomach here, listening to irresponsible voices accusing Turks of relocating Armenians by about 300 kilometers - the idea being their removal from cross fire - even if the operation was not very succesful and some were hurt: While they should know that their grandfathers were decent slave merchants. |
Well I think it is generally accepted that it was not genocide. Thousands and thousands died from starvation so the definition of "genocide" is indeed dubious. Does it make it right? No.
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:37 pm |
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Origins in dark history is not important....Do you want to discuss who kept slaves until yesterday?
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:38 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Origins in dark history is not important....Do you want to discuss who kept slaves until yesterday? |
It originated in the Middle East - for thousands of years.
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29 Dec 2007 Sat 05:45 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting AlphaF: Origins in dark history is not important....Do you want to discuss who kept slaves until yesterday? |
It originated in the Middle East - for thousands of years. |
wasnt it existing also in China? also in ancient egypt? also in the arcaic ages? it was everywhere...
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