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1.       dost
32 posts
 02 Feb 2006 Thu 12:48 am

Hi!

Maybe a stupid question but anyway..

I just want to know if you use the words
1-Selam alekum 2-Alekum selam like a goodbye phrase??

Best/ D

2.       mltm
3690 posts
 02 Feb 2006 Thu 01:21 pm

Quoting dost:

Hi!

Maybe a stupid question but anyway..

I just want to know if you use the words
1-Selam alekum 2-Alekum selam like a goodbye phrase??

Best/ D



Selam aleyküm
Aleyküm selam

Yes, these are still used for greetings.
The one that first greets says selam un aleyküm and the other one replies as aleyküm selam.
But I have to say that although these are still used, they're much more common among villagers, religious ones, or traditional ones. Though you can see these being used among city dewellers as well, but usually the intellectual, modern ones don't use it. And also women don't use it.
But if someone says to me selam un aleyküm, I reply with aleyküm selam.

This is what I have observed.

3.       dost
32 posts
 02 Feb 2006 Thu 02:34 pm

çok teşekkürler mltm

I thougt it was like this. But i have never heard of this greeting in Turkey but many of my friend use this in my home country.
Thanks for letting me know!

Have a Nice day! Best/ D

4.       Hansom
6 posts
 03 Feb 2006 Fri 09:44 am

And...another curious and paradojic thing about this words:

Is widely known that Arabs and Jewish hates theirselves to death...but they use almost the same words for to wish peace...(because in fact, the meaning of this words are 'May the peace be with you')

Can you wonder which words are...??

Jewish: Shalom alekhem, Alekhem shalom
Arabs: Selam aleikum, Aleikum selam.

5.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Mar 2006 Mon 08:58 pm

And I read this just when I think I ahev sorted out how to greet people in Türkiye :-S

*wonders if she will ever get the hang of this language*

6.       ramayan
2633 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 10:59 pm

these are also used while you are saying goodbye..

A:take care of you dostum..selamun aleykum
B: aleykum selam eyvallah

of course between religious people

7.       bod
5999 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 03:39 pm

Quoting ramayan:

of course between religious people



What do you mean by "between religious people" ???

Unless the person I was talking to was wearing a dog collar or similar religious attire, it would not so much as cross my mind to consider whether or not they happened to be "religious" (whatever that means!)

8.       MissHelen
148 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 04:06 pm

Oh come on! In a country where a teacher can be fired for wearing a headscarf to the school where she works...where the secular state set up by Atatürk is now the world's flagship Islamic-yet-not-fundamentalist country...You need a *dog collar*??!!

Really!

If you use the greeting you are (evidently) marking yourself as someone of a religious bent (as our friend was trying to tell us). Conversely if you are greeted thus, you can assume the greeter is a non-drinking regular-praying Muslim.

Isn't that just as good as a dog collar?

H.

9.       bod
5999 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 04:14 pm

Quoting MissHelen:

Isn't that just as good as a dog collar?



I suppose it is - if and only if - you know both the greeting and the connotation behind it......and as I still can't order my eggs for breakfast I think learning the religious terminology is pretty much down my list

I like eggs for breakfast lol

10.       MissHelen
148 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 04:17 pm

Surely you know them both by now, sugar?

Anyway - how did you want your eggs? Scrambled? Why not have menemen instead - full of cancer-preventing tomatoes (handy amid the clouds of cigarette fumes here) plus it's a *traditional* Turkish breakfast. How much more suitable need it be?

H.

11.       bod
5999 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 04:20 pm

Quoting MissHelen:

Anyway - how did you want your eggs? Scrambled? Why not have menemen instead - full of cancer-preventing tomatoes (handy amid the clouds of cigarette fumes here) plus it's a *traditional* Turkish breakfast. How much more suitable need it be?



I'll make a note of that for when I return!

Unfortunately I doubt the hotel will provide it but I am sure I will find it somewhere Breakfast at the hotel is self service olives, fruit, cheese, etc. with egg either boiled, poached, scrambled, fried or omlette......I can oredr two of three of those including the two I like least :-S

12.       MissHelen
148 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 04:23 pm

Try asking - I'm sure the hotel kitchen (whose cooks - aşÃ§ılar - will of course be Turkish) should be able to make it for you. In fact, if a yabancı asks for something so traditionally Turkish and *in* Turkish, they will prolly fall over themselves preparing it for you...

H.

13.       bod
5999 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 04:24 pm

Quoting MissHelen:

Try asking - I'm sure the hotel kitchen (whose cooks - aşÃ§ılar - will of course be Turkish) should be able to make it for you. In fact, if a yabancı asks for something so traditionally Turkish and *in* Turkish, they will prolly fall over themselves preparing it for you...



You could be right - I shall try

14.       ramayan
2633 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 05:21 pm

Quoting bod:

Quoting ramayan:

of course between religious people



What do you mean by "between religious people" ???

Unless the person I was talking to was wearing a dog collar or similar religious attire, it would not so much as cross my mind to consider whether or not they happened to be "religious" (whatever that means!)



dude dis kind of greeting is coming from our religion ok? so the ones who are not religious even use it...u dont need to be muslim to use it..it became a part of turkısh and turks..so i mean especially religious ones use it...if u say ssomeone selamun alykum he wont be angry...he will be glad bcos u are talking in his own culture in his own language...dis means u can say selamun aleykum with ur sweet red boots

15.       bod
5999 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 06:06 pm

I think you have a certain thing about red boots Ramayan lol

16.       ramayan
2633 posts
 08 Mar 2006 Wed 11:36 pm

Quoting bod:

I think you have a certain thing about red boots Ramayan lol



yes red boots on a sweet dude..it looks great

17.       bod
5999 posts
 09 Mar 2006 Thu 02:50 pm

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting bod:

I think you have a certain thing about red boots Ramayan lol



yes red boots on a sweet dude..it looks great



When I come to visit you I will let you borrow them sweetie

18.       ramayan
2633 posts
 09 Mar 2006 Thu 11:07 pm

thanks dude..with them i will gather many fans...ramayan fan club

19.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Mar 2006 Fri 12:45 am

Quoting ramayan:

thanks dude..with them i will gather many fans...ramayan fan club



Don't you have one of those already ?????

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