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10.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 10:04 pm

Quoting catwoman:



Show off!!

11.       MrX67
2540 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:00 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

turks willing to share the fate of the eastern neighbour (iran)?

Türks want to be good model to all world with the strong secularism and respect to all innocent freedoms..

12.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:17 pm

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting femme_fatal:

turks willing to share the fate of the eastern neighbour (iran)?

Türks want to be good model to all world with the strong secularism and respect to all innocent freedoms..



There is no secularism, if civil laws of a society are shaped to serve the needs/orders of a religion.

Turkey is in no shape to model other Islamic countries, with this crowd in government. The reality is that she may become just one of the others.

13.       MrX67
2540 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:21 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting femme_fatal:

turks willing to share the fate of the eastern neighbour (iran)?

Türks want to be good model to all world with the strong secularism and respect to all innocent freedoms..



There is no secularism, if civil laws of a society are shaped to serve the needs/orders of a religion.

Turkey is in no shape to model other Islamic countries, with this crowd in government. The reality is that she may become just one of the others.

Theres no secularism??such an used and provakative words..Turkey is secular and will stay secular and will stay secular forever,jus the ones who describing theirself with to be secular have to be aware of that real meaning of secularism..

14.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:30 pm

What is the real meaning of secularism?

15.       MrX67
2540 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:32 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

What is the real meaning of secularism?

i bet you know its meaning better then me,just you don't want to use it in true way??

16.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:43 pm

Here is your chance to teach me the meaning of "real secularism".
Be sincere...come on !, say your piece !

PS: I will read you tomorrow...

17.       MrX67
2540 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 01:14 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Here is your chance to teach me the meaning of "real secularism".
Be sincere...come on !, say your piece !

PS: I will read you tomorrow...

secularism to accept everybody free to believe whatever they wish,and to put this diversity in same law pot,and keep this freedom with the objective rules by governing people with the scientific (unreligional) rules.So its one of the obligation of real democracies...

18.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 03:05 pm


Origins of Secularism as a Non-Religious, Humanistic, Atheistic Philosophy
Despite its importance, there isn't always a great deal of agreement on just what secularism really is. Part of the problem lies in the fact that the concept of "secular" can be used in a couple of ways which, while closely related, are nevertheless different enough to make it difficult to know for sure what people might mean. The word secular means "of this world" in Latin and is the opposite of religious. As a doctrine, secularism is usually used to describe any philosophy which forms its ethics without reference to religious dogmas and which promotes the development of human art and science.



http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/07/21/world/20070721_TURKEY2_1.html

19.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 03:07 pm

20.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 03:09 pm

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting AlphaF:

Here is your chance to teach me the meaning of "real secularism".
Be sincere...come on !, say your piece !

PS: I will read you tomorrow...

secularism to accept everybody free to believe whatever they wish,and to put this diversity in same law pot,and keep this freedom with the objective rules by governing people with the scientific (unreligional) rules.So its one of the obligation of real democracies...



How does your definition differ from what I said ?

"There is no secularism, if civil laws of a society are shaped to serve the needs/orders of a religion."

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