Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Turkish Class Forums / Turkey

Turkey

Add reply to this discussion
Moderators: libralady, sonunda
On Head Scarf in Turkey by Nihal Bengisu Karaca
(75 Messages in 8 pages - View all)
1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8
30.       MrX67
2540 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:04 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Absolutely true MrX67. Lets allow them into universities first and worry about the rest later

how can a female can deny another female's freedom??even if she doesn't look like herself about her preferences???have everybody to think or to live same as we do???

31.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:06 pm

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Absolutely true MrX67. Lets allow them into universities first and worry about the rest later

how can a female can deny another female's freedom??



I dont understand your question MrX67, but I do agree that headscarves should not be banned from schools and universities if culture dictates that those women would then be prevented from attending.

Lets get all women into education first, and worry about the other cultural issues later

32.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:07 pm

Quoting peace train:


I agree. With regard to the headscarf, it should be up to the individual and the way they interpret the Qur'an.


how do you interprete it?
do you wear hijab or not?

Quoting peace train:


It is not the place of any individual to judge another for their choice in this matter. It is a matter between the individual believer and God. Unfortunately there are those who do enforce their view onto Muslim women (some are forced to wear the scarf and some are not allowed to wear the scarf).


looks like those women actually dont have much choice

Quoting peace train:


Hark! I hear the sound of footsteps getting closer and closer.


whose?
mohammeds?

33.       MrX67
2540 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:08 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Absolutely true MrX67. Lets allow them into universities first and worry about the rest later

how can a female can deny another female's freedom??



I dont understand your question MrX67, but I do agree that headscarves should not be banned from schools and universities if culture dictates that those women would then be prevented from attending.

Lets get all women into education first, and worry about the other cultural issues later

Lets be tolerated first,then everythings will be easier

34.       mltm
3690 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:13 pm

Headscarf cannot be a liberty, it's like making slavery seem as a kind of liberty. Choosing to wear headscarf is up to someone although a woman most of the time does not choose to wear it with a 100% free will,but they already have the freedom of wearing headscarf or whatever they want in Turkey. Which freedom do they want more? They want the freedom of wearing it in universities as students as professors, in banks,in hospitals, in the parliament. They want the freedom of having a headscarved president. Now, in this condition imagine a headscarved president can we talk about a seculiar republic anymore, when someones headscarf is shouting out that she's a muslim? Noone has the right to ask someone's religion, and in a seculiar republic noone has the right to show his/her religion where he/she is supposed to make her/his decisions without any influence of any personal beliefs.
Just letting this happen, think just about it, you let the headscarf enter the universities, than where will you stop? Forinstance a radical islamic association called Özgür-der (Freedom association) is not pleased with this headscarf decisiion because they want liberty to all head to toe covered islamic dresses and male islamic dresses like (male turbans, salvars etc).



Then, if liberty is wearing whatever you want wherever you want, then what will be against allowing these as well into universities, working places, parliament? And you already have the freedom to wear these in streets, shops, everywhere you want.

Lastly I want you to have a look at this video about the women before and after the Islamic revolution in Iran. It might tell something.

click to watch

35.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:16 pm

Quoting mltm:

Headscarf cannot be a liberty, it's like making slavery seem as a kind of liberty.


+infinity!!!

36.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:17 pm

Quoting mltm:

Headscarf cannot be a liberty, it's like making slavery seem as a kind of liberty. Choosing to wear headscarf is up to someone although a woman most of the time does not choose to wear it with a 100% free will,but they already have the freedom of wearing headscarf or whatever they want in Turkey. Which freedom do they want more? They want the freedom of wearing it in universities as students as professors, in banks,in hospitals, in the parliament. They want the freedom of having a headscarved president. Now, in this condition imagine a headscarved president can we talk about a seculiar republic anymore, when someones headscarf is shouting out that she's a muslim? Noone has the right to ask someone's religion, and in a seculiar republic noone has the right to show his/her religion where he/she is supposed to make her/his decisions without any influence of any personal beliefs.
Just letting this happen, think just about it, you let the headscarf enter the universities, than where will you stop? Forinstance a radical islamic association called Özgür-der (Freedom association) is not pleased with this headscarf decisiion because they want liberty to all head to toe covered islamic dresses and male islamic dresses like (male turbans, salvars etc).



Then, if liberty is wearing whatever you want wherever you want, then what will be against allowing these as well into universities, working places, parliament? And you already have the freedom to wear these in streets, shops, everywhere you want.

Lastly I want you to have a look at this video about the women before and after the Islamic revolution in Iran. It might tell something.

click to watch



mtlm,
OMG!
havent seen you for ages!
welcome back!

37.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:20 pm

the muslim lady looks gorgeous!

many girls in turkey want to look like that lady after choosing islamists to rule over them!

38.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:20 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

mtlm,
OMG!
havent seen you for ages!
welcome back!



Mltm, getting such a warm welcome from femm, must have made it worth coming back. lol
Hahahah, just made me laugh.

39.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:21 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting peace train:


I agree. With regard to the headscarf, it should be up to the individual and the way they interpret the Qur'an.


how do you interprete it?
do you wear hijab or not?

Quoting peace train:


It is not the place of any individual to judge another for their choice in this matter. It is a matter between the individual believer and God. Unfortunately there are those who do enforce their view onto Muslim women (some are forced to wear the scarf and some are not allowed to wear the scarf).


looks like those women actually dont have much choice


Quoting peace train:


Hark! I hear the sound of footsteps getting closer and closer.


whose?
mohammeds?




clever girl!

40.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:23 pm

Wow, what a picture, Meltem!

(75 Messages in 8 pages - View all)
1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8
Add reply to this discussion




Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
Why yer gördüm but yeri geziyorum
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, makes perfect sense!
Etmeyi vs etmek
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Görülmez vs görünmiyor
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, very well explained!
Içeri and içeriye
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Present continous tense
HaydiDeer: Got it, thank you!
Hic vs herhangi, degil vs yok
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Rize Artvin Airport Transfer - Rize Tours
rizetours: Dear Guest; In order to make your Black Sea trip more enjoyable, our c...
What does \"kabul ettiğini\" mean?
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Kimse vs biri (anyone)
HaydiDeer: Thank you!
Random Pictures of Turkey
Most liked
Major Vowel Harmony

Turkish lesson by admin
Level: beginner
Introduction

Turkish lesson by admin
Level: beginner