Quoting janissary:

This vow (Andımız) is read by all primary school students in every morning before lesson:


ANDIMIZ
"Türküm, doğruyum, çalışkanım,

İlkem; küçüklerimi korumak, büyüklerimi saymak, yurdumu, milletimi özümden çok sevmektir.

Ülküm; yükselmek, ileri gitmektir.

Ey Büyük Atatürk!

Açtığın yolda, gösterdiğin hedefe durmadan yürüyeceğime ant içerim.

Varlığım Türk varlığına armağan olsun.

Ne mutlu Türküm diyene!"


here is a video of students

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Quoting Daydreamer:

I see nothing wrong about a vow like this at school, it is a matter of tradition so I don't think this is what makes nationalists. Some countries don't have vows like this and still there are nationalists.

I believe patriotism is a good thing - a vow doesn't teach it for sure, but gives a sense of belonging. I disagree with any kind of religious lines to be repeated, but if it's just a pledge to your country then what's wrong with it?

Quoting thehandsom:

This pledge has been said by the 7 years olds 10s of years in Turkey.
After all those years, the generations who grew up with 'andimiz' (and of course with 'ne mutlu turkum diyene' as well) just managed to create the quality of living standards 'just above' African countries.!!!
So basically they are empty and they are not working.
(personally, instead of brain washing with people with empty slogans, it is better if we taught people why holland generates 7 times more money from their agricultural product than turkey or why and how they make nearly 10 billion dollars each year from the export of tulips with 15 million people where as we just managed the same amount from tourism several years ago with 80 million people!! )

Anyways, about andimiz.

I doubt the validity of it and also I doubt the relevance of it as well as I find it quite disrespectful to my country's citizens.
It is against everything about multiculturalism.
There are not Turks only in Turkey.
There are people they dont want to call themselves turk and they are the people of Turkey.
They are turkish.
They dont call themselves Turk.
And everybody should respect this.

ps..I think recently the minister of education said something about it too.
I think he argued that "putting foreign children (like germans, english etc) into line of assembly every morning and force them to say 'I am a Turk' as a first line would be forcing them to lie".
It is, to be honest,a confession that we have been forcing our own people to lie for a long time
And nobody should say that "'I am Turk' in that context does not not mean turk as ethnic race"..please. we should not lie to ourselves

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Quoting janissary:

European ppl and even some tukish ppl who live in europe see turkish ppl ignorant. they look us from top. that s why they always give advices. they just talk and talk nothing else. We wont educate our children as u want. coz we see turkish children who educated in europe. I know all of you are very small minority, think like that. ur type of persons can say one day, this flag is old, we should find another new one. coz it wont mean anything to them. but it does too much us. being a part of this country is not easy. and we know this, we can give our life without any hesitate when needed.

Quoting janissary:

European ppl and even some tukish ppl who live in europe see turkish ppl ignorant. they look us from top. that s why they always give advices.

Quoting libralady:

I personally think it is narrow minded to start a thread like this and then not expect some negative response, then claim that the site is anti-Turkish values. but looking at most of the answers, people (non-Turks) are agreeing with you and see nothing wrong with it.

My view is that this sort of thing belongs with the Arc; why expose young children to this? It has reverberations of nationalism and nationalism breeds racism, hatred and violence. This sort of attitude is not good for tourism, a thriving, growing industry.