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AK Parti stopped-no head scarves
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06 Jun 2008 Fri 12:46 pm |
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This decision is a rape of the constitution by The Constitutional Court!!
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06 Jun 2008 Fri 08:27 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: When women have the permission to wear headscarves in UNİ
The number of educated women will be increased
And that İS a threat  |
I'm sorry Canli, that sounds so sad...If a women refuses to get an education because she can't wear a headscarf in university, this is indeed a loss for women. Principles and beliefs are one thing, but were talking a headscarf vs education.
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 02:20 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika:
and when will women be allowed in mosques with headscarf (let alone without it)? |
Are you serious ?!
Are your women not allowed in mosques even with headscarves?!! 
You dont allow women to pray in mosques too ?!!!
We here are allowed with or without headscarves !
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 02:34 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting tamikidakika:
and when will women be allowed in mosques with headscarf (let alone without it)? |
Are you serious ?!
Are your women not allowed in mosques even with headscarves?!!
You dont allow women to pray in mosques too ?!!!
We here are allowed with or without headscarves ! |
since when have women been allowed to pray together with men in mosques?? do you do that in Egypt? if so we must adopt that, but I have doubts. and can you show me a picture of woman praying in a mosque without headscarf? hahhaa that sounds suicidal to me.
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 02:37 am |
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Quoting teaschip:
I'm sorry Canli, that sounds so sad...If a women refuses to get an education because she can't wear a headscarf in university, this is indeed a loss for women. Principles and beliefs are one thing, but were talking a headscarf vs education. |
Actually,i both agree and disagree with you tea
İ agree that,it İS a loss for women,and i disagree on headscarf is different than Principles and beliefs,if it is an order from ALLAH then it is part of beliefs
STİLL,there is a principle in İslam called something like ' not harmful and not being harmed'
So i believe women should get educated by all means,even if that means they would take off scarves at UNİ
Then they can have voices to express what they want,they would be more stronger to force their will,and not letting men dectating it upon them
İ dont mean it as feminin issue,but heck...its MY hair,and only ME who would say i cover it or not
Not by parents,not by partner and CERTAİNLY not by government !
My OWN government !
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 02:48 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika:
since when have women been allowed to pray together with men in mosques?? do you do that in Egypt? if so we must adopt that, but I have doubts. and can you show me a picture of woman praying in a mosque without headscarf? hahhaa that sounds suicidal to me. |
Since when ?!
Since forever hee hee
What are you talking about ?!
Women were praying in Rasul mosque in Madinna while Rasul SAV were alive!
And yes,sure we do that in Egypt
At some mosque there are special places for women to pray,and at another there is not
İn the ones with no special places for women to pray,at pray time,women pray behinde men's lines
İf it is not pray times 'not right after ezan' women who want to pray can pray any where at the mosque
Who would dare to say no dont pray to anyone?!!!
And yes women without headscarves pray too,but SURELY not without headscarves
Some bring their own headscarves and wear it in mosques at praying times,and some use the ones available by the mosque administrations
Not wearing headscarves doesnt mean that they dont pray you know !
lol,do you want me to show you pictures of women praying at mosques ?!
Who would go to mosque at praying times with a camera and take pictures of the women praying there?!
İf for nothing....do you think in time like this we dont have honorable men in Egypt enough to stop such ?!
Would you accept it there ?!
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 03:00 am |
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Quoting CANLI:
Since when ?!
Since forever hee hee
What are you talking about ?!
Women were praying in Rasul mosque in Madinna while Rasul SAV were alive!
And yes,sure we do that in Egypt
At some mosque there are special places for women to pray,and at another there is not
İn the ones with no special places for women to pray,at pray time,women pray behinde men's lines
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That`s why I said "together". praying in a cage like room behind the man that is seen by no one doesn`t mean praying together.
Quoting CANLI:
And yes women without headscarves pray too,but SURELY not without headscarves
Some bring their own headscarves and wear it in mosques at praying times,and some use the ones available buy the mosque administrations
Not wearing headscarves doesnt mean that they dont pray you know ! lol,do you want me to show you pictures of women praying at mosques ?!
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Please don`t skip the details in my post to make your argument more credible. I asked whether women can pray in mosques without headscarf or not, and the answer is NO!!! If the women who want to pray without headscarf can not get into mosques why should the women with headscarf be allowed to get into universities. If they want respect for their religious values they should first show some respect for the civil values stated by the government. People show respect for the values of mosque and cover their body when getting into a mosque whether they are believers or not. Why can`t you learn the same degree of respect and put your headscarf off when getting into universities?
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 03:28 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika:
That`s why I said "together". praying in a cage like room behind the man that is seen by no one doesn`t mean praying together.. |
Cage ?!
Please pick your language !
Cages are for animals!
You dont show respect to others to talk about it!
At this point,i have nothing to say to you,right or wrong what you've said,actually i do NOT care !
Show respect first,then debat later !
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 03:31 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting tamikidakika:
That`s why I said "together". praying in a cage like room behind the man that is seen by no one doesn`t mean praying together.. |
Cage ?!
Please pick your language !
Cages are for animals!
You dont show respect to others to talk about it!
At this point,i have nothing to say to you,right or wrong what you've said,actually i do NOT care !
Show respect first,then debat later !
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sure you`re free not to answer if you are not able to refute my argument.
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 03:41 am |
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Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting CANLI: Quoting tamikidakika:
That`s why I said "together". praying in a cage like room behind the man that is seen by no one doesn`t mean praying together.. |
Cage ?!
Please pick your language !
Cages are for animals!
You dont show respect to others to talk about it!
At this point,i have nothing to say to you,right or wrong what you've said,actually i do NOT care !
Show respect first,then debat later !
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sure you`re free not to answer if you are not able to refute my argument. |
Look,im not a child to fall for that,read my post again,and if you dont understand have it translated to you !
İts OUTRAGEOUS calling women who are praying for their God animals !
İf you dont believe in God its your business,but have respect for the ones who do !
İf you want respect give respect !
And if you dont give respect,then we have nothing to talk about !
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07 Jun 2008 Sat 04:00 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting CANLI: Quoting tamikidakika:
That`s why I said "together". praying in a cage like room behind the man that is seen by no one doesn`t mean praying together.. |
Cage ?!
Please pick your language !
Cages are for animals!
You dont show respect to others to talk about it!
At this point,i have nothing to say to you,right or wrong what you've said,actually i do NOT care !
Show respect first,then debat later !
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sure you`re free not to answer if you are not able to refute my argument. |
Look,im not a child to fall for that,read my post again,and if you dont understand have it translated to you !
İts OUTRAGEOUS calling women who are praying for their God animals !
İf you dont belive in God its your business,but you must respect other's choices too
İf you want respect give respect !
And if you dont give respect,then we have nothing to talk about ! |
Look who is talking about respect. When did I say don`t believe in God? Who are you to judge me over my faith in God? You know very well that I didn`t mean to call the women praying behind men animals, I didn`t even think you could make such an interpretation, and your interpretation doesn`t have to represent what I actually intended to say. So what should I be more respectful for? Im already respectful.
So can you stop accusing me of silly things to avoid arguing with me because you can`t refute any of my arguments?
If you don`t have anything to put forth about what I said about the headscarf decision, this will be my last post in this topic. My argument is there. you can try to refute it or else if you can`t you can go on making cacophony.
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