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AK Parti stopped-no head scarves
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30.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 04:48 pm

That turban looks hotter than heck..nice colors though for a turban.

31.       MrX67
2540 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 06:00 pm

may be you can stop headscarf,but how you can stop all main human rights?so i think to be law judge not enough to be just...

32.       Lane
36 posts
 28 Jul 2008 Mon 05:47 pm

Forbidding headscarves in universities is absurd and gives nothing. Iran wants girls to be covered stricktly and Turkey wants them to be without covering. Where is the difference? And what does that forbidding give? Why girls with headscarves are discriminated?? They are not worth of university?? Do they try to increase intelligence of people by this way? Let me laugh. ABSURD. Turkey ıs democratic or not? Why does it dictate how to dress?

33.       doudi94
845 posts
 28 Jul 2008 Mon 07:12 pm

now i have no idea with what wearing a head scarf has to do with secularism its not gettimng in the way of politics!! and if i was a girl in turkey and wanted to wear a head scrf WHICH is a an order from god and couldnt then i would go to uni without it and then after i finish i would wear it its not that big of a deal now some ppl say what if i die withput a headscarf just coz i chose to go to uni well then it would be the goverments fault coz i see islam gave woman their rights b4 ataturk came islam encouraged women to get educationa nd ataturk stopped them from doing that and thats not fair to them islam also gave women the right to work and own lands and do whatever she wants with her inheritance and het divorced so if u look at like divorce laws in america LOTS of problems coz everybody gets half and i want thuis and i want that this causes ppl not to get married which means the guy or girl could cheat on her or him or do smthg to her or him and nothing would stop him coz theyre not legally bound together same thing when they get married they dont wanna geta divorce which causes a lot of chaos and other fatal things anyway about mosques and well of course its much easier for men to got o mosques than women who its more preferable for them to pray at home and tnhats why men have bigger places to pray in and why do u want women to pray right next to men wouldnt u be embaressed the only lady bya hundred men praying with them stuck to them bumping into them thats just wrong!!and about the head scarf i think if u prohibit ppl to do things then TURKEY IS NOT A FREE COUNTRY everybody should have the right to wear what they want and believe in what they want like in america u could go to school wearing whatever u want my mom was a teacher in a merica wearing a headscrf and everything was ok so i think taht it was a good step from erdogan to bring the heads carf back this will caus e many more girls to attened school and become educated since 60 percent of turkish women stay at home so good for u erdogan!!

34.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 12:26 am

Quoting Lane:

Forbidding headscarves in universities is absurd and gives nothing. Iran wants girls to be covered stricktly and Turkey wants them to be without covering. Where is the difference? And what does that forbidding give? Why girls with headscarves are discriminated?? They are not worth of university?? Do they try to increase intelligence of people by this way? Let me laugh. ABSURD. Turkey ıs democratic or not? Why does it dictate how to dress?


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35.       MrX67
2540 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 12:36 am

thats really shame of this century judging people and creating some discriminates about their wearing prefers???And especially making political fights just from back of women

36.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 11:32 am

Doudi94, please try to use punctuation in the future - it is really hard to read your post like one long sentence

I just wanted to see if I understood your message - Turkish women were free because Islam gives women rights. Then came Ataturk and limited their rights as he banned headscarves in public institutions. People in USA are not free and don´t get married because they´d have to split everything into half when they get divorced?

Sorry...but it sounded so (I´m lost for words here) unlikely/untrue that I had to make sure I got it right.

37.       mltm
3690 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 01:18 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Lane:

Forbidding headscarves in universities is absurd and gives nothing. Iran wants girls to be covered stricktly and Turkey wants them to be without covering. Where is the difference? And what does that forbidding give? Why girls with headscarves are discriminated?? They are not worth of university?? Do they try to increase intelligence of people by this way? Let me laugh. ABSURD. Turkey ıs democratic or not? Why does it dictate how to dress?


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How can you compare the democracy that´s in İran! (non-existant) and in Turkey? And the women rights?
Just this sentence make me even not to think much about what you have written.
A state can dictate its citizens how to dress, a state can use its power on its citizens when needed, that´s what a state is.
In no muslim state a headscarved woman is as free as she can be in Turkey. In Turkey, a woman is given as many rights as she´s given in any european democratic country. If there´s some kind of discrimination on these women, it´s not because they do not have the right to do it. Headscarf or burqa do not have anything to do with a woman, a woman has her rights, but headscarf or burka are her religious symbols, and these symbols do not have the right to be presented in places where the state decides that could violate the secularism of the state.

Then France is as antidemocratic as Turkey because here headscarves are banned in public schools as well. Though we know very well that France is one of the most democratic and secular countries.

Then why the European Court of Human Rights backs this ban
Their decision was:

Turkey can ban Islamic headscarves in universities.
The court rejected an appeal by a Turkish woman who argued that the state ban violated her right to an education and discriminated against her. "http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4424776.stm

I don´t think that the court of human rights know human rights less than you.






38.       Lane
36 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 03:22 pm

Quoting mltm:


How can you compare the democracy that´s in İran! (non-existant) and in Turkey?

Then France is as antidemocratic as Turkey because here headscarves are banned in public schools as well. Though we know very well that France is one of the most democratic and secular countries.

Then why the European Court of Human Rights backs this ban
Their decision was:

Turkey can ban Islamic headscarves in universities.
The court rejected an appeal by a Turkish woman who argued that the state ban violated her right to an education and discriminated against her. "http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4424776.stm



Ok, that was too extreme example.

I am of very bad opinion about french government so it is no wonder for me.

European Court of Human Rights wasnt right and i guess they are ıslamophobic so they wanted to help poor women with agreeing or smth.

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