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1.       Johnk
468 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 04:32 pm

thanks to everyone who recommended places to visit and how much time we should allow. it was great help. we left yesterday and really enjoyed. went to blue mosque/aya sofia/ cisterns/topkapi palce/ grand bazaar/galata tower and dolmabahce palace. did not have time for ortakoy pier or trip on ferries.
dolmabahce palace was one of best places ever visited in our lives.
taxis very cheap so used them alot. also surprised that eating out was not expensive for a city.meals were exceptional.
i dont normnally like big cities but this was an exception. a different culture that made it so interesting.its a mad place with so many people and traffic.
will defintely go back as sure so much to see. but am also now interested in seeing more of rest of turkey. can anyone recommend anywhere else.i believe bursa is worth visiting.
now in comparative peacefulness of north cyprus. will put on my turkey t shirt i bought in taksim square for the big match tonight.

2.       sonunda
5004 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 05:45 pm

Glad you had a good time. İ recommend a road trip-every day fantastic and varied scenery,different foods,different cultures etc etc and all in the same country!

3.       Johnk
468 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 06:57 pm

have followed your journey with interest. sounds great. I would have to improve my turkish first.

4.       sonunda
5004 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 03:51 pm

You could start in the west-there are so many places over there to explore and English is more widely spoken especially south of İzmir. That whole coast right the way round to Antalya is great!

5.       Johnk
468 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 08:57 am

i think i will take your advice and look at west coast next. i can get by with my turkish in shops and restaurants etc but will need more for travelling. just started lessons with turkish teacher.

6.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 10:32 am

Quoting Johnk:


dolmabahce palace was one of best places ever visited in our lives.



It`s weird that you liked the Dolmabahce palace that much. It is just a bad imitation of the Versailles palace.

Quoting Johnk:


i believe bursa is worth visiting.



I wouldn`t recommend Bursa unless you`re going to Uludag. There isn`t much to see in the city. Anywhere on the Agean coast would suit you better.

7.       Johnk
468 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 11:52 am

never been to versailles though have seen pictures and tv progs about it.so cant really compare.will get there one day.

someone recommended bursa on one of message boards.I need to do some homework first as i dont know much about west coast yet.

8.       uzeyir
268 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 12:09 pm

Quote:

I wouldn`t recommend Bursa unless you`re going to Uludag. There isn`t much to see in the city. Anywhere on the Agean coast would suit you better.



Well I'm not writing these because I'm a citizen of Bursa but I've been here since I was born and there're lots of things to explore.I'm sure I know Bursa better than a tour guide who just takes you to several mosques and tombs, does.
Fortunately Bursa's tourists are well-educated people who are interested in the history and the culture-they aren't like 3rd class building constractors' foreign wives without social polish who don't do anything except sunbathing.
I don't want to make anyone offended but I think my message has been delivered.

9.       serhattugral
210 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 12:43 pm

Quote:

Quoting uzeyir:

I wouldn`t recommend Bursa unless you`re going to Uludag. There isn`t much to see in the city. Anywhere on the Agean coast would suit you better.



Well I'm not writing these because I'm a citizen of Bursa but I've been here since I was born and there're lots of things to explore.I'm sure I know Bursa better than a tour guide who just takes you to several mosques and tombs, does.
Fortunately Bursa's tourists are well-educated people who are interested in the history and the culture-they aren't like 3rd class building constractors' foreign wives without social polish who don't do anything except sunbathing.
I don't want to make anyone offended but I think my message has been delivered.


I think you may go to Bursa only to eat famous "İskender Kebap" and you dont need any other reason. The restaurant was established at 1850 and serving to its customers today. Look that its history older or near many countries at the world. To visit 150 years old restaurant and enjoy its special meal is an enouh reason according to me.

PS 1: I am 105 Kgs weight
PS 2: I am not a citizen of Bursa
PS 3: See this link about "İskender Kebap";
http://kebapciiskender.com.tr/tr/?PID=21

10.       uzeyir
268 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 01:49 pm

Quote:

I think you may go to Bursa only to eat famous "İskender Kebap" and you dont need any other reason. The restaurant was established at 1850 and serving to its customers today. Look that its history older or near many countries at the world. To visit 150 years old restaurant and enjoy its special meal is an enouh reason according to me.

PS 1: I am 105 Kgs weight
PS 2: I am not a citizen of Bursa
PS 3: See this link about "İskender Kebap";
http://kebapciiskender.com.tr/tr/?PID=21



I'm sure you come here only to eat İskender

11.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 02:46 pm

Quoting uzeyir:

they aren't like 3rd class building constractors' foreign wives without social polish



I know you don't want to offend anyone, but your message is rather 'upperclass-haughty' and it doesn't suit you!

12.       libralady
5152 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 02:55 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting uzeyir:

they aren't like 3rd class building constractors' foreign wives without social polish



I know you don't want to offend anyone, but your message is rather 'upperclass-haughty' and it doesn't suit you!



As a wife of a building contractor I think it is a little bit of a misguided comment! I can't say I have "social polish" or would want it but I am relatively intellegent and would enjoy the sort of trip you suggest. But my 3rd class building contractor husband would rather be snorkling. lol

13.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 03:01 pm

Quoting libralady:

"social polish" or would want it



Who cares about social polish as long as there's nail polish lol

14.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 04:21 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting libralady:

"social polish" or would want it



Who cares about social polish as long as there's nail polish lol



Is Daydreamer a Social Polish ??? :-S

15.       Chantal
587 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 04:33 pm

Quoting serhattugral:


PS 1: I am 105 Kgs weight



Thnx for the info lol

16.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 05:16 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Is Daydreamer a Social Polish ??? :-S



Ofcourse she is!! Her social skills stole my heart

17.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 05:29 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting lady in red:

Is Daydreamer a Social Polish ??? :-S



Ofcourse she is!! Her social skills stole my heart



So glad to hear you are still happy together!

18.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 05:34 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting lady in red:

Is Daydreamer a Social Polish ??? :-S



Ofcourse she is!! Her social skills stole my heart



So glad to hear you are still happy together!


What???!!! Did DD steal MY lover too????? I cannot believe this, someone pinch me please..

19.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 05:35 pm

Quoting Johnk:

thanks to everyone who recommended places to visit and how much time we should allow. it was great help. we left yesterday and really enjoyed. went to blue mosque/aya sofia/ cisterns/topkapi palce/ grand bazaar/galata tower and dolmabahce palace. did not have time for ortakoy pier or trip on ferries.
dolmabahce palace was one of best places ever visited in our lives.
taxis very cheap so used them alot. also surprised that eating out was not expensive for a city.meals were exceptional.
i dont normnally like big cities but this was an exception. a different culture that made it so interesting.its a mad place with so many people and traffic.
will defintely go back as sure so much to see. but am also now interested in seeing more of rest of turkey. can anyone recommend anywhere else.i believe bursa is worth visiting.
now in comparative peacefulness of north cyprus. will put on my turkey t shirt i bought in taksim square for the big match tonight.


Great to see that you had a good trip! Maybe you could write an essay about your adventures? Let us know how the next trip goes.

20.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 05:50 pm

Quoting catwoman:

What???!!! Did DD steal MY lover too????? I cannot believe this, someone pinch me please..



It wasn't me

21.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 06:21 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting catwoman:

What???!!! Did DD steal MY lover too????? I cannot believe this, someone pinch me please..



It wasn't me


You broke my heart, sign our divorce papers right away please. No explanations, it's over!!!

22.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 06:29 pm

Quoting catwoman:

You broke my heart, sign our divorce papers right away please. No explanations, it's over!!!



Just scream divorce 4 times and you'll get rid of me! After all, you had been the male of this relationship!

23.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 06:52 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Just scream divorce 4 times and you'll get rid of me! After all, you had been the male of this relationship!


Divorce! Divorce! Divorce! Divorce! Now, go to daydreamer! (if you reconsider... let me know...)

24.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 06:54 pm

Quoting catwoman:

(if you reconsider... let me know...)



I do

25.       uzeyir
268 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:27 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting uzeyir:

they aren't like 3rd class building constractors' foreign wives without social polish



I know you don't want to offend anyone, but your message is rather 'upperclass-haughty' and it doesn't suit you!


You are the last person who can be offended That profession was just an example and I still stand by what I said.Although it doesn't suit,I think it does If people had been more considerate,I'd have been more considerate though.We don't have to think in the same way like we aren't interested in the same things.

26.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:32 am

Quoting uzeyir:

You are the last person who can be offended That profession was just an example and I still stand by what I said.Although it doesn't suit,I think it does If people had been more considerable,I'd have been more considerable though.We don't have to think in the same way like we aren't interested in the same things.



I wasn't offended. And your post wouldn't have been offending and arrogant if you hadn't said '3rd class' (it doesn't matter what profession you say, it's the 3 class part that makes it offensive) and 'social polish'. Your post shows you look down on people who are not highly educated or without manners that you consider to be of 'high culture'. You may stand with what you said, but that is really shame on you!

27.       uzeyir
268 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 03:14 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting uzeyir:

You are the last person who can be offended That profession was just an example and I still stand by what I said.Although it doesn't suit,I think it does If people had been more considerable,I'd have been more considerable though.We don't have to think in the same way like we aren't interested in the same things.



I wasn't offended. And your post wouldn't have been offending and arrogant if you hadn't said '3rd class' (it doesn't matter what profession you say, it's the 3 class part that makes it offensive) and 'social polish'. Your post shows you look down on people who are not highly educated or without manners that you consider to be of 'high culture'. You may stand with what you said, but that is really shame on you!


I told you that I didn't want to be rude hehe my explanation to you was enough for me

28.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 03:15 am

Quoting uzeyir:

I told you that I didn't want to be rude hehe my explanation to you was enough for me



You are clearly missing the point dear Thank god I'm the last one to misunderstand your true intentions (not the last one to be offended işte )

29.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:01 am

Actually I always believed that it wasn't the 3rd class building contractors wives that are uninterested in sightseeing the beauty of Bursa, but the well-off first class folks who've seen it all and done it all. They'd rather be frying their a*ses in a 5 star resort than walk and sweat in the heat...

30.       Johnk
468 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:22 am

i only asked for some suggestions on where to go next and looked what i have started!!!

31.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:30 am

Quoting Daydreamer:

Actually I always believed that it wasn't the 3rd class building contractors wives that are uninterested in sightseeing the beauty of Bursa, but the well-off first class folks who've seen it all and done it all. They'd rather be frying their a*ses in a 5 star resort than walk and sweat in the heat...



DD İ love you

32.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:52 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:



DD İ love you



Owwww...now I'm blushing

33.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:56 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

DD İ love you


34.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:59 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

DD İ love you




Oh don't cryyyyy. I just have a big heart Don't you see that what DD said was wonderful?

35.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:59 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

DD İ love you



Ağlama Kedikızi...I'm sure she loves you too..you know them Dutch, they just keep loving everyone

36.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 12:03 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Ağlama Kedikızi...I'm sure she loves you too..you know them Dutch, they just keep loving everyone


You think so? Hmmm.... so maybe she didn't cheat on me after all... (am I getting as paranoid as tamiki? )

37.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 12:04 pm

Quoting Johnk:

i only asked for some suggestions on where to go next and looked what i have started!!!



Well...it kind of is a mating season...everything comes down to one thing

38.       uzeyir
268 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 12:26 pm

m i bovered?

39.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 12:34 pm

Quoting Johnk:

thanks to everyone who recommended places to visit and how much time we should allow. it was great help. we left yesterday and really enjoyed. went to blue mosque/aya sofia/ cisterns/topkapi palce/ grand bazaar/galata tower and dolmabahce palace. did not have time for ortakoy pier or trip on ferries.
dolmabahce palace was one of best places ever visited in our lives.
taxis very cheap so used them alot. also surprised that eating out was not expensive for a city.meals were exceptional.
i dont normnally like big cities but this was an exception. a different culture that made it so interesting.its a mad place with so many people and traffic.
will defintely go back as sure so much to see. but am also now interested in seeing more of rest of turkey. can anyone recommend anywhere else.i believe bursa is worth visiting.
now in comparative peacefulness of north cyprus. will put on my turkey t shirt i bought in taksim square for the big match tonight.



If I had my chance, I would travel the length of the Black Sea coast, and I would go to Saffronbolu too! I would like to spend some time around Trabzon and north east Turkey. We went hiking in the Kackar Mountains, which was fantastic. I would also like to see Capadoccia and hike along the Lycian way. Another journey recommended to me was to drive along the coast from Antalya to say Izmit by car, stopping where ever the fancy takes you.

40.       lady in red
6947 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:09 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting uzeyir:

You are the last person who can be offended That profession was just an example and I still stand by what I said.Although it doesn't suit,I think it does If people had been more considerable,I'd have been more considerable though.We don't have to think in the same way like we aren't interested in the same things.



I wasn't offended. And your post wouldn't have been offending and arrogant if you hadn't said '3rd class' (it doesn't matter what profession you say, it's the 3 class part that makes it offensive) and 'social polish'. Your post shows you look down on people who are not highly educated or without manners that you consider to be of 'high culture'. You may stand with what you said, but that is really shame on you!



My husband was in the building trade and I wasn't offended by Uzeyir's post - really didn't bother me .

I was more offended by this comment made in January by a Turkish tc member: 'You need to know at least three languages as a really cultured person in this life...' - which would imply that around 98% of Great Britain are 'really uncultured' when the truth is most of us are just too damn lazy to bother because the whole world speaks English lol

41.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:14 pm

Quoting lady in red:

My husband was in the building trade and I wasn't offended by Uzeyir's post - really didn't bother me .

I was more offended by this comment made in January by a Turkish tc member: 'You need to know at least three languages as a really cultured person in this life...' - which would imply that around 98% of Great Britain are 'really uncultured' when the truth is most of us are just too damn lazy to bother because the whole world speaks English lol




If you're talking to Ãœzye, you should say bovered

I wasn't offended either, I was more saying he should be more careful about putting the things the way he put them.. I know he never intended to say such a thing, but he said it anyway. That was my entire point

And I remember that useless post too But I wasnt offended I was very flattered to be highly cultured lol lol

42.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:17 pm

Quoting uzeyir:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting uzeyir:

they aren't like 3rd class building constractors' foreign wives without social polish



I know you don't want to offend anyone, but your message is rather 'upperclass-haughty' and it doesn't suit you!


You are the last person who can be offended That profession was just an example and I still stand by what I said.Although it doesn't suit,I think it does If people had been more considerate,I'd have been more considerate though.We don't have to think in the same way like we aren't interested in the same things.



I was not offended either - my post was a "tongue in cheek" response, but if only I could understand your last post about people being considerate!! Who has been inconsiderate?

43.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:18 pm

Quoting libralady:

Who has been inconsiderate?



I think he is referring to the post which states that Bursa isn't anything interesting apart from Uludağ. That clearly was his weak spot, being born and raised in the first capital of the Ottoman Empire But, he is right. Bursa needs to get more credit!

44.       lady in red
6947 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:25 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting lady in red:

My husband was in the building trade and I wasn't offended by Uzeyir's post - really didn't BOVVER me .

I was more BOVVERED by this comment made in January by a Turkish tc member: 'You need to know at least three languages as a really cultured person in this life...' - which would imply that around 98% of Great Britain are 'really uncultured' when the truth is most of us are just too damn lazy to bother because the whole world speaks English lol



If you're talking to Ãœzye, you should say bovered



It's done!!

45.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:25 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting libralady:

Who has been inconsiderate?



I think he is referring to the post which states that Bursa isn't anything interesting apart from Uludağ. That clearly was his weak spot, being born and raised in the first capital of the Ottoman Empire But, he is right. Bursa needs to get more credit!



I see, but an opinion of somewhere is not really being inconsiderate.

46.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:31 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting libralady:

Who has been inconsiderate?



I think he is referring to the post which states that Bursa isn't anything interesting apart from Uludağ. That clearly was his weak spot, being born and raised in the first capital of the Ottoman Empire But, he is right. Bursa needs to get more credit!



I see, but an opinion of somewhere is not really being inconsiderate.



47.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:50 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting libralady:

Who has been inconsiderate?



I think he is referring to the post which states that Bursa isn't anything interesting apart from Uludağ. That clearly was his weak spot, being born and raised in the first capital of the Ottoman Empire But, he is right. Bursa needs to get more credit!



That`s nice. It was me who was being inconsiderate if Delikizin is right. That`s quite true indeed, besides Uzeyir is an aristocrat who has grown up in the Bursa palace, so it`s normal for him to trash building contractors` wives.

48.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:51 pm

Quoting tamikidakika:

That`s nice. It was me who was being inconsiderate if Delikizin is right. That`s quite true indeed, besides Uzeyir is an aristocrat who has grown up in the Bursa palace, so it`s normal for him to trash building contractors` wives.



I'm always right

See Ãœzye, this is why you have to pick your words more carefully

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