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Bikini-free Islamic tourism booms in Turkey
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 03:23 pm |
Zhang Ziyi, actually this should be posted here and not under off topic posts:
www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/2261947/Bikini-free-Islamic-to...
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 03:40 pm |
Quoting Roswitha: Zhang Ziyi, actually this should be posted here and not under off topic posts:
www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/2261947/Bikini-free-Islamic-to... |
Ros - it was a 'What caught my eye today' post - why should it be moved to here? It was an item of news that 'caught his eye'.
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 05:09 pm |
Did you know that an Islamic hotel has opened in Bodrum?
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 05:24 pm |
Quoting libralady: Did you know that an Islamic hotel has opened in Bodrum? |
Hisar otel
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 06:38 pm |
Quoting libralady: Did you know that an Islamic hotel has opened in Bodrum? |
Great! I found this article about it...I don't know if it's been posted before as the one in Roswitha's post did not work
Islamic Hotels in Turkey
It is very very hard for a women who does not want to expose herself to find a place to swim.
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 08:41 pm |
Great post, Alameda!! See image:
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 09:38 pm |
Quoting Roswitha: Great post, Alameda!! See image:
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Hmmmm Roswitha...I don't think swimming in a niqab would be very efficient....I saw a photo of a woman in a full burka and niqab surf boarding in the Gulf once...
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 01:32 am |
Quoting Roswitha: Great post, Alameda!! See image:
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Why does this lady appear to have a false arm??
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 01:42 am |
Quoting lady in red: Quoting Roswitha: Great post, Alameda!! See image:
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Why does this lady appear to have a false arm?? |
It does look odd, doesn't it? I know there are some who wear long black gloves...maybe hers filled with water?
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 01:56 am |
Quoting alameda: Quoting lady in red: Quoting Roswitha: Great post, Alameda!! See image:
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Why does this lady appear to have a false arm?? |
It does look odd, doesn't it? I know there are some who wear long black gloves...maybe hers filled with water? |
But her hand is back to front.....
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 01:56 am |
Quoting alameda: Quoting lady in red: Quoting Roswitha: Great post, Alameda!! See image:
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Why does this lady appear to have a false arm?? |
It does look odd, doesn't it? I know there are some who wear long black gloves...maybe hers filled with water? |
But her hand is back to front.....
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 03:48 am |
Track star with hijab
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/05/16/this-years-model-sports-hijabs/
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 07:47 pm |
I guess that would solve the problem with having to shave your legs and arm pits before going swimming.
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 08:36 pm |
Quoting teaschip: I guess that would solve the problem with having to shave your legs and arm pits before going swimming. |
She always finds something positive on everything hehehe
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 09:15 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting teaschip: I guess that would solve the problem with having to shave your legs and arm pits before going swimming. |
She always finds something positive on everything hehehe |
Your ruining my image here. Miss Positive.
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 09:18 pm |
Quoting teaschip: Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting teaschip: I guess that would solve the problem with having to shave your legs and arm pits before going swimming. |
She always finds something positive on everything hehehe |
Your ruining my image here. Miss Positive. |
hahaha you know every super character has a weak point except me
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 09:50 pm |
I have certainly never seen a woman all covered up swimming in Turkey. Not their faces and hands anyway. Has anyone seen this? Can we assume it's another islamic country? Also, my boyfriend who is Turkish refuses to believe this is in Turkey.
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 09:56 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting teaschip: Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting teaschip: I guess that would solve the problem with having to shave your legs and arm pits before going swimming. |
She always finds something positive on everything hehehe |
Your ruining my image here. Miss Positive. |
hahaha you know every super character has a weak point except me |
I bet I know what your weak point is..
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 09:58 pm |
Quoting lady in red: Quoting Roswitha: Great post, Alameda!! See image:
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Why does this lady appear to have a false arm?? |
And why does he have such a smile on his face?
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 10:01 pm |
The Muslim closed bathing suits adjoin on beaches to bikini
http://www.gorod.lv/news/32828/the_muslim_closed_bathing_suits_adjoin_on_beaches_to_bikini
http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/fashion/story/0,,2061958,00.html
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 10:24 pm |
Quoting libralady: Quoting lady in red: Quoting Roswitha: Great post, Alameda!! See image:
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Why does this lady appear to have a false arm?? |
And why does he have such a smile on his face? |
we will all have to use our imaginations
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 10:43 pm |
Quoting Roswitha: The Muslim closed bathing suits adjoin on beaches to bikini
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This is a very well written article Roswitha....thank you for posting it. I'm going to repost the link as the one I found had to be copied and pasted into a browser to work...
'I felt more welcome in the Bible belt'
"It is at this point that I get a bit perplexed by what exactly the British public wants. On the one hand, they are always complaining about Muslims refusing to integrate and be part of the "mainstream" community. On the other hand, it's become painfully clear that when we do come out into the mainstream, we make them uncomfortable. Granted, my swimsuit may not blend in, but the refusal by people like Caldwell to allow Muslim women to create a middle ground of interaction in the UK forces them into the extremes.
The online debate has created in me a sense of fear, and as a result I have not been back to the gym in the past month, even after assurances from the general manager at David Lloyd's Oxford branch that his management team would do their best to ensure I had safe access. The general manager agreed with me that things had spiralled out of proportion, and after I showed him my swimsuit, not only stated that it met swimsuit standards, but that it was now being offered for purchase at all David Lloyd's clubs throughout the UK. But Caldwell's actions had the desired effect: I stayed at home."
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 11:34 pm |
Library Lady, he smiles because she finally agreed to cool off in the water and be with him and her family.
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 11:49 pm |
Quoting christine:
we will all have to use our imaginations |
Well, I don't know if anyone has considered this, but she could have a prosthetic arm and hand because she lost it in some type of unpleasant action. Thus, her husband, who loves his wife dearly, is happy to see her enjoying herself.
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 11:53 pm |
That makes a lot of sense, Alameda, you got it!!
My, oh my, now look at this from Britain:
Muslim women patients get new burqa style gowns
http://www.themuslimwoman.org/entry/muslim-women-patients-get-new-burqa-style-gowns/
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 02:08 pm |
Quoting teaschip: I guess that would solve the problem with having to shave your legs and arm pits before going swimming. |
Do you HAVE to shave your legs and armpits before swimming? Is there a law for this?
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 02:11 pm |
Quoting alameda: Quoting christine:
we will all have to use our imaginations |
Well, I don't know if anyone has considered this, but she could have a prosthetic arm and hand because she lost it in some type of unpleasant action. Thus, her husband, who loves his wife dearly, is happy to see her enjoying herself. |
prosthetic arm?:S oh my god what else!!! she is just hanging back the gloves she wears!!!
are you that blind to see that? lol
and he is smiling maybe because he is having fun with kids or with his wife... in the way he feels right?
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 03:18 pm |
Quoting alameda: Quoting Roswitha: The Muslim closed bathing suits adjoin on beaches to bikini
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This is a very well written article Roswitha....thank you for posting it. I'm going to repost the link as the one I found had to be copied and pasted into a browser to work...
'I felt more welcome in the Bible belt'
"It is at this point that I get a bit perplexed by what exactly the British public wants. On the one hand, they are always complaining about Muslims refusing to integrate and be part of the "mainstream" community. On the other hand, it's become painfully clear that when we do come out into the mainstream, we make them uncomfortable. Granted, my swimsuit may not blend in, but the refusal by people like Caldwell to allow Muslim women to create a middle ground of interaction in the UK forces them into the extremes.
The online debate has created in me a sense of fear, and as a result I have not been back to the gym in the past month, even after assurances from the general manager at David Lloyd's Oxford branch that his management team would do their best to ensure I had safe access. The general manager agreed with me that things had spiralled out of proportion, and after I showed him my swimsuit, not only stated that it met swimsuit standards, but that it was now being offered for purchase at all David Lloyd's clubs throughout the UK. But Caldwell's actions had the desired effect: I stayed at home."
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Isn't it wonderful though, how this lady finally got her side of the story shown on one of the UK's largest and most read (non-tabloid) newspapers and with all her opinions of other people! There is one positive apect of freedom of speech.
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 04:18 pm |
Quoting hobnob: I have certainly never seen a woman all covered up swimming in Turkey. Not their faces and hands anyway. Has anyone seen this? Can we assume it's another islamic country? Also, my boyfriend who is Turkish refuses to believe this is in Turkey. |
Well,i havent seen it in my country too
Still its not disgraceful ,is it?
But,i just wonder why would your boyfriend refused to believe that can be in Türkiye ?!
İt would be nice to think that his country is very much tolerance that you can find that outfit along with bikini at same beaches,wouldnt it ?! :-S
İ would think same if its in my country!
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 04:29 pm |
Quoting CANLI: Quoting hobnob: I have certainly never seen a woman all covered up swimming in Turkey. Not their faces and hands anyway. Has anyone seen this? Can we assume it's another islamic country? Also, my boyfriend who is Turkish refuses to believe this is in Turkey. |
Well,i havent seen it in my country too
Still its not disgraceful ,is it?
But,i just wonder why would your boyfriend refused to believe that can be in Türkiye ?!
İt would be nice to think that his country is very much tolerance that you can find that outfit along with bikini at same beaches,wouldnt it ?! :-S
İ would think same if its in my country! |
Are you joking?!! It's disgusting. How many of these women, GIVEN A CHOICE, would choose to go swimming like this? More and more these days, people are less tolerant of muslim 'fanatics' as AK party remains in power. In fact, these burquas are banned in Turkey.
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 06:04 pm |
Quoting alameda:
Well, I don't know if anyone has considered this, but she could have a prosthetic arm and hand because she lost it in some type of unpleasant action. Thus, her husband, who loves his wife dearly, is happy to see her enjoying herself. |
I think the unpleasant action involved a confused shark who saw this black figure floating in the ocean and thought he found a nice tasty lunch of seal!
I cannot imagine how hideous this must feel to be so completely covered and soaking wet with sand sticking all over. Not to mention, it doesn't seem to safe to be swimming in so much fabric!!
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 06:24 pm |
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 06:36 pm |
Quoting hobnob:
Are you joking?!! It's disgusting. |
Well,many people see women in mini skirts are disgusting too
So,its a matter of opinions i guess
Still,i fail to understand how is it to be DİSGUSTİNG that woman covering herself and not showing her body on the beaches,but not naked woman ,or topless ones ?
Again,its a matter of opinions!
Quoting hobnob:
How many of these women, GIVEN A CHOICE, would choose to go swimming like this? |
You would be surprised how many women actually CHOOSE to go swimming like this,because they CHOOSE to wear like this.
Quoting hobnob:
More and more these days, people are less tolerant of muslim 'fanatics' as AK party remains in power. In fact, these burquas are banned in Turkey. |
Who are the people that you are talking about who became LESS tolerant of muslim 'fanatics' as AK party remains in power?
Turkish people you mean ?
Who are Muslims ?
So you mean Muslims become less torlent toward muslims,because of AKP which they have elected them by %47 'less or more' ?!!
Yes,im sure you are right !
Btw,burquas are banned in official places,not on the beaches unless you considered beaches to be official places too!
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 06:41 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting alameda: Quoting christine:
we will all have to use our imaginations |
Well, I don't know if anyone has considered this, but she could have a prosthetic arm and hand because she lost it in some type of unpleasant action. Thus, her husband, who loves his wife dearly, is happy to see her enjoying herself. |
prosthetic arm?:S oh my god what else!!! she is just hanging back the gloves she wears!!!
are you that blind to see that? lol
and he is smiling maybe because he is having fun with kids or with his wife... in the way he feels right?
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Well,i thought her hand is not normal too lol
But seems you are right,she is pulling up her glove i guess.
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 07:04 pm |
Quoting CANLI: Quoting hobnob:
Are you joking?!! It's disgusting. |
Well,many people see women in mini skirts are disgusting too
So,its a matter of opinions i guess
Still,i fail to understand how is it to be DİSGUSTİNG that woman covering herself and not showing her body on the beaches,but not naked woman ,or topless ones ?
Again,its a matter of opinions!
Clearly, it was an opinion. I can't say for a fact it's disgusting. I know ALL of my Turkish friends agree with me though. Their husbands would not allow them to show off their bodies and swim- this concept disgusts me.
Quoting hobnob:
How many of these women, GIVEN A CHOICE, would choose to go swimming like this? |
You would be surprised how many women actually CHOOSE to go swimming like this,because they CHOOSE to wear like this.
I disagree. Why do they choose to wear these?... because of some deep rooted religious or cultural belief. It doesn't come from within directly, it comes from a culture.
Quoting hobnob:
More and more these days, people are less tolerant of muslim 'fanatics' as AK party remains in power. In fact, these burquas are banned in Turkey. |
Who are the people that you are talking about who became LESS tolerant of muslim 'fanatics' as AK party remains in power?
Turkish people you mean ?
Who are Muslims ?
So you mean Muslims become less torlent toward muslims,because of AKP which they have elected them by %47 'less or more' ?!!
Yes,im sure you are right !
Btw,burquas are banned in official places,not on the beaches unless you considered beaches to be official places too! |
It was my boyfriend who said burquas are banned. After clarification, they are indeed not forbidden but certainly frowned upon and gets a negative response. I guess they are the norm at these special hotel places.
As an Izmirli, yes, the Izmirians are very much against the AK party in general. I guess I made a sweeping statement. Actually, even though the AK party won the majority of votes in other cities, the people who voted for them are not all AK party supportes. Rather, they are afraid of what a change of government might bring in terms of the economy etc. They are voting whilst thinking of their future which is fair enough but harsh as Turkey struggles to be a secular country
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 09:05 pm |
Quoting girleegirl: Quoting alameda:
Well, I don't know if anyone has considered this, but she could have a prosthetic arm and hand because she lost it in some type of unpleasant action. Thus, her husband, who loves his wife dearly, is happy to see her enjoying herself. |
I think the unpleasant action involved a confused shark who saw this black figure floating in the ocean and thought he found a nice tasty lunch of seal!
I cannot imagine how hideous this must feel to be so completely covered and soaking wet with sand sticking all over. Not to mention, it doesn't seem to safe to be swimming in so much fabric!! |
Everyone here has imaginations that are quite fertile....It is certainly an interesting photo. We will probably never know for sure.
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 09:10 pm |
Quoting alameda: Quoting girleegirl: Quoting alameda:
Well, I don't know if anyone has considered this, but she could have a prosthetic arm and hand because she lost it in some type of unpleasant action. Thus, her husband, who loves his wife dearly, is happy to see her enjoying herself. |
I think the unpleasant action involved a confused shark who saw this black figure floating in the ocean and thought he found a nice tasty lunch of seal!
I cannot imagine how hideous this must feel to be so completely covered and soaking wet with sand sticking all over. Not to mention, it doesn't seem to safe to be swimming in so much fabric!! |
Everyone here has imaginations that are quite fertile....It is certainly an interesting photo. We will probably never know for sure.
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This photo was posted on the site some months ago - there was speculation that the couple in front were two of our more popular members! Personally I think the lady in the burkini is actually not in there at all - she has left her husband holding a false arm and is swimming happily away out of shot in a tiny bikini.
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 09:35 pm |
Does she smile too???
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 11:06 pm |
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 02:09 am |
ahhh takes me back to doing my 50 metre badge at school but my Teacher didn't look like this
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 06:52 pm |
Quoting hobnob: Are you joking?!! It's disgusting. How many of these women, GIVEN A CHOICE, would choose to go swimming like this? More and more these days, people are less tolerant of muslim 'fanatics' as AK party remains in power. In fact, these burquas are banned in Turkey. |
Actually a LOT of them would choose to cover more than less. There are many women who do not go to the beach or to swimming pools because they feel exposed in normal "swimming suites", so they don't go.
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 07:15 pm |
Quoting mltm: Does she smile too??? |
She winks lol
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 07:49 pm |
Who would be kind enough and give me the English translation of this article?
"Türbanlılar evde çılgın dekolte giyiyor!!!" Türbanlı modacıdan şok itiraflar!!!
Türbanlı modacı Rabia Yalçın: "Dışarda gördüğüm türbanlıları evde tanıyamıyorum" diyor.
Geçen eylül ayında ABD'nin New York kentinde bir defileye imza atan türbanlı modacı Rabia Yalçın (41), moda hayatını AKŞAM'a anlattı. 11 yıldır tasarımcılık yapan Yalçın, "2008'te ‘Portakal Çiçeği' adıyla kendi mağazamı açacağım. Dünyada zincir oluşturmak istiyorum. Kendimi ‘deli bir sanatçı' olarak nitelendiriyorum. Tasarımlarımda zarafet ve renk uyumu var. Canlı renkler kullanmama rağmen sade bir görüntü elde ediyorum. Beni ön plana çıkartan kalite ve renkler. İnsan ayrımı da yapmıyorum. Amacım tüm kadınları giydirmek. Başı kapalı da, diğerleri de tasarımlarımdan alıyor. Zaten türbanlı kadının evdeki hali farklı. Dışarıda gördüğüm türbanlıları, ev ortamında tanıyamıyorum. Hepsi sırt ve göğüs dekolteli. Zaten iki gardıropları var. Biri ev, diğeri de dışarısı için. Hatta iç dünyalarında çılgın talepleri olabiliyor" dedi.
Yabancılar şık giyiniyor ikisi de sade ve güzel
İngİlİz Kraliyet Ailesi'ni giydirmeyi isteyen Rabia Yalçın, yurtdışından en çok Ãœrdün Kraliçesi Rania ile Suriye Devlet Başkanı Beşar Esad'ın eşi Esma'yı şık buluyor. First Lady'lerin duruşlarını ve kalıplarını gayet iyi bulan Yalçın, "Gençler... Duruşları sade ve güzel. Son derece kaliteli, renkleri birbirine uyumlu ve dikiş kalitesi yüksek kıyafetler seçiyorlar. Fakat aynı şeyi Hayrünnisa Gül ile Emine Erdoğan için söyleyemem. Daha iyi seçimler olabilir. Emine Erdoğan daha sade giyinmeli. Ama geçen yıllara göre bir ilerleme var" diye konuştu.
AKŞAM
She is a famous Islamic Fashion designerhttp://www.rabiayalcin.com/web/en.asp
Turkish Muslim Designer Unveils Intricate Gowns
Rabia Yalcin Designs Complex Red Carpet Dresses
http://www.nbc5.com/entertainment/11205276/detail.html
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