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Catwoman, you should not be an admin here.
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 12:44 pm |
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Yet another semantic battle.
Dear Uykuysuz,
If you have been here as long as you say and you know the people you are having a discussion with, then you will also know that, however valid you think your points are, it will not change anything and all you are doing is providing a platform for all the things you are against.
As far as I know CW is not a Mod but she is listed as an Admin. It's up to her how she conducts herself on this site. Members can:
agree with her
disagree with her
criticise her
insult her
pm her
leave the site
ignore her
Admin or not, she is one person out of almost 17,000 members and therefore easily avoided.
This thread isn't CW's fight or anyone else's, it's yours, you've created it, it's what's on your mind and nobody else's, until you create the thread. You are also wasting your thinking time. What you've said is nothing new, it's all been said before (and I'm sure DD has all the TC thread references  ).
I don't think members new to Turkey will look at CW's posts and gain a bad impression of Turkey or Islam, unless they are stupid. Any sane person can gain an insight into someone's character from tone sand choice of language and then decide whether or not they want to believe or do more research and make up their own mind. Most members here don't even look at the discussion threads because they either come to use the language forum or the chatroom. They are the sensible ones . And if they do read the discussion threads then I'm sure it's purely for entertainment value. They are the canny members and I don't think their silence means agreement with either side.
"U", I think you have had a touch of the TC heeby jeebies this last couple of days. I hope you feel better soon.
Peace and love
from
A Stepford Member
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| 21. |
13 Jul 2008 Sun 01:11 pm |
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Sound advice from peacetrain uYkuSuz  Welcome back after a long spell away by the way. I remember the help you gave to a lot of people before.
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| 22. |
13 Jul 2008 Sun 02:54 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer:
Nope, that's not how it works. If you said "It's going to rain today" and I asked "Why are you afraid it's going to rain today?" it wouldn't mean I agree with you, but that I was looking for an explanation of your fear. It was an analogical situation
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you know if the weather was not bad, i would not say that "it's going to rain today", and you would not say that "why are you afraid it's going to rain today" and you know the weather is really bad. You couldn't say "it's sunny" instead of saying "why are you afraid it's going to rain today"..
Quoting Daydreamer:
I cannot judge why your post got deleted, I haven't read it. But it's not true what you're writing, as long as threads are a discussion they're not locked - your critique of admin is a proof of that, nobody deleted it and you're free to show your discontent with Cat. As far as I remember the locked threads were those with personal insults, not those representing points of view different from Cat's.
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it's true what i m writing,i know what has happened here. Many times, there were posts without any personal insult or something. We were disscussing. Your hero catwoman comes, posts the last post about her ideas, Then locks the topic. We could not defend the idea she is against.She says "Turks are bad".. its done.topic is locked.Is it what the fair and polite way you meant ?
She also deleted many posts of mine. You're not her and you dont know the situation,i understand you that you're her friend and trying to defend her and replying instead of her. But as many users also canli knows that she cant stand the idea she disagree, and she also deletes the posts without any personal attack.
Quoting Daydreamer:
The best solution is her to use this web site just as an user. At that time, she will be free about her posts. And ( i hope ) the posts that she disagree will not be deleted anymore.
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it's best for the ones whose posts are deleted and against catwomans ideas without any personal insult.
Quoting Daydreamer:
I am happy with her being an admin and I'm sure so are many other users. Of course you can't find a way to make everyone happy so no matter who is an admin, some people will always be dissatisfied. Admins are not elected by means of popular vote, you decided to join a site run by her from the very beginning. Live with it. Besides, not only admins delete posts, mods do that as well and the mods we have are not only those agreeing with Cat.
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I am not happy with her being an admin and I'm sure so are many other users see the examples.
I didnt decide to a site run by he from the very beginning. When i was new, i thought she likes turks/muslim that's why she is admin of this website. Look what did she say above ?
- She is just an admin cause her husband is site-owner, not cause of the love and respect.
I didnt say anything bad about mods or other admins. Please dont try to change the subject. You know my problem is about her deleting the posts she disagree,she can't stand. and as an admin she should not have said those things.
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You said you re not her lawyer and Catwoman can reply,you ll leave here for her to reply.You are here again, Where is catwoman ? She wanted you to reply ? -See i m criticizing catwoman, the woman that says "everybody has right to cricitize anything" has lost, and for her lawyers I should not criticize, I should live with it.. Curious, why she criticizes and does not live with "turks/islam" truth ? she should live with it as you said.
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 03:04 pm |
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Quoting peacetrain: Yet another semantic battle.
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This web site is all about forums, also its nothing without forums. So as you know new visitors/members will read her posts.
And I m just using my right to criticize catwoman, as she is doing it for the islam/turks. So i think nobody has problem with it..
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 03:35 pm |
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Quoting catwoman:
We tried to add more moderators with varying points of view, to make the site more balanced. Try to put yourself in the position of a moderator - what comments would you delete? You really cannot delete anything, unless it's a personal attack, so I don't think that my personal views are conflicting with doing the job of an admin.
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I would like to believe this paragraph. You just dont delete the personal attacks. You also lock and delete the whole topic. I m not expecting you to tell that. If you're that honest about balancing. I have a suggestion then,
make canli admin
Also make some people admin till the numbers of people of both sides are equal then. If you're that serious...
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 05:17 pm |
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have you ever thought Canli may not want to be a Mod or an Admin? Perhaps many people have been asked and they have said "no thank you".
Actually, whatever, anyone's views on the mods' and Admins' decisions, they put themselves up there to be shot down even more than an ordinary member. So perhaps people don't actually want to be put in that position. On the other hand, others thrive on it .
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 05:27 pm |
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Quoting peacetrain: have you ever thought Canli may not want to be a Mod or an Admin? Perhaps many people have been asked and they have said "no thank you".
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it s just a suggestion, let her reply. It's up to her.
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 05:57 pm |
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Thank you uYkuSuz,nice of you to suggest such 
But my main purpose when i first came to TLC was to learn Turkish,and the Forums keep taking me already away from that
Being admin or mod is a big responsibility toward members,and Türkiye of course
And it would take much to be fulfilled as it should be
so it will take me more away from my main purpose
As much as i would be honored ,but i have to decline your suggestion
Thank you again
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 06:12 pm |
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Quoting peacetrain:
Actually, whatever, anyone's views on the mods' and Admins' decisions, they put themselves up there to be shot down even more than an ordinary member. So perhaps people don't actually want to be put in that position. . |
Yes,me would be condemning as the Nationalist İslamist Turk !
Even that im not Turk at all lolll 
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 08:10 pm |
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Quoting uYkuSuz: I would like to believe this paragraph. You just dont delete the personal attacks. You also lock and delete the whole topic. I m not expecting you to tell that. If you're that honest about balancing. I have a suggestion then,
make canli admin
Also make some people admin till the numbers of people of both sides are equal then. If you're that serious... |
Well, you are just wrong. Nothing is locked or deleted somehow secretly because I disagree with the comments. And yes, personal attacks are deleted.
One of the main ideas of the forum is that there has to be freedom of speech and there is not that many Turks here right now who understand this idea and who had agreed to be moderators. Even though it would make you happy, we cannot have a moderator who will delete a comment which says that "Turks have oppressed and killed many Kurds".
I tried to balance the number of moderators with varying points of view and I think that the current moderators and admins are people who are understanding about the Turkish culture and can represent both sides.
I actually had thought of making Canli a moderator, unfortunately she declined before I could ask her.
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13 Jul 2008 Sun 08:39 pm |
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Quoting catwoman:
Well, you are just wrong. Nothing is locked or deleted somehow secretly because I disagree with the comments. And yes, personal attacks are deleted.
One of the main ideas of the forum is that there has to be freedom of speech and there is not that many Turks here right now who understand this idea and who had agreed to be moderators. Even though it would make you happy, we cannot have a moderator who will delete a comment which says that "Turks have oppressed and killed many Kurds".
I tried to balance the number of moderators with varying points of view and I think that the current moderators and admins are people who are understanding about the Turkish culture and can represent both sides.
I actually had thought of making Canli a moderator, unfortunately she declined before I could ask her. |
catwoman is it really this part you understand ?.. We're saying you're one sided. The way you're is wrong and you are not good as an admin cause you dont respect and insult us. I cant see any reply about these, you even dont say that you're sorry after all those topics.
Why cant you tell me the reason for the topic you post
"What's wrong with muslims" instead of "A stupid guy's post"?
Now you're just saying that you dont delete the posts you disagree. You did it,also locked.(the reason i left here)..
I dont have any problem with current moderators. if you wanna balance it, you dont need to make someone admin actually. Just dont be an admin.it will balance. Use here as an user. Be honest. Dont delete anypost/topic that you disagree/cant stand.Also dont lock.I know its hard for you but think like "what if i m wrong"..
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