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Turkish weddings
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 03:24 pm |
Please share your experience or knowledge about turkish wedding ceremony, traditions and afterparty.For native speakers - please write in turkish - so i can learn a bit
thanks
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 03:40 pm |
Quoting pansi: Please share your experience or knowledge about turkish wedding ceremony, traditions and afterparty.For native speakers - please write in turkish - so i can learn a bit
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Pansi - people shouldn´t write in Turkish here as the forum rules state:
The official language of all forums is English with the following exceptions and details: • The language ‘Teaching Turkish’ forum is Turkish only.
• ‘Language’ and ‘Turkish Translation’ forums can have Turkish texts according the nature of these boards.
However, if you google ´Turkish Wedding Traditions´ there is loads of information and maybe you can copy and paste something to the translation section then you can see it in English and Turkish!
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 03:44 pm |
oops!
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:00 pm |
Quoting pansi: Please share your experience or knowledge about turkish wedding ceremony, traditions and afterparty.For native speakers - please write in turkish - so i can learn a bit
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Generally girl is wanted first as a tradition. Boy´s family come to the house of girl´s as a visiting. And then they "want" the girl to their boy, "in the order of god" etc. religious things. After girl´s family accept, they arrange the days for "promise","engagement" and "marriage". Söz kesmek ( = Promise) may not be necessary for some families. They directly make the engagement´s arrangement first. After that, they arrange the wedding time... It depends on the traditions of the family and the region they live. Details can be too many. There is a TV show here, our Turkish friends may know it: "Şoray Uzun Yolda", the speaker of the show travels in Turkey and visits different types of wedding parties and some other ceremonies. As far as I see, every single region has its own customs, details, symbols.
My experiences are little. I see that there is a special night before the wedding day. It is called "kına gecesi". Women do something themselves, and men never be with them at this whole night. As I am a guy, I have been always with the men, and we just sit and chat about the world, about the wedding, the people etc. If the family is religious some, then the chat topic is always religious and the wishes and prayers that god will help this "future" family; the guy and the girl.
Wedding party type is changing day by day. In past, as far as I remember, we used to go to a big open platform such as a free field, less houses or buildngs. There were some musicians, especially drummer and the player of "zurna". People sit down to the chairs, the owner of the wedding give a little dinner and/or some cake and drinks like cola etc. When the time come, music starts and people dance in a folkloric way generally.
In these years, there is no "open" wedding parties as far as I see. We go to the special wedding places like indoor concerts.
During this ceremony/party, there is a "takı takma" time. Guests of the ceremony come with their gifts, generally golds. If not gold, their gifts are money. In this "takı takma" time, people make a queue and give their gifts by attaching on the dress of bride and/or groom. "takı=ornament/affix" and "takmak= to attach".
I see these years, there are some families that make a ceremony without music, or the music may exist but without any type of dance. You just go to the wedding ceremony room, can be like a restaurant, and people eat the wedding dinner. There is a similar "takı takma". And then people leave the ceremony. This is generally preferred by the religious families. They don´t want people dance or listen to the music loudly. I attended one of this type wedding. It was the wedding of the sister of my friend. It was very nice indeed, very calm. No flashiness. Sure some people don´t like this type ceremonies, everyone has its type.
One of my observations about these ceremonies is that there are always some crazy people, no respect to the weddng family. They always bring alcohol even though wedding family warn people: "Our wedding don´t have alcohol". And this was always surprized for me: this freaks make a scene during the wedding, create a little scandal. And the owners of the wedding interfere and make them go out of the wedding, without another new "bitter" event.
I don´t know more what can be done in these parties or ceremonies. As I said, there may be many differnt customs, traditions, symbolic celebrations.
I didn´t write them all in Turkish because I have doubts that you are able to understand. I hope it helps.
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:09 pm |
Quoting lady in red: However, if you google ´Turkish Wedding Traditions´ there is loads of information. |
Or alternatively - just ask Caliptrix!
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:12 pm |
My experiences are little. I see that there is a special night before the wedding day. It is called "kına gecesi". Women do something themselves, and men never be with them at this whole night. As I am a guy, I have been always with the men, and we just sit and chat about the world, about the wedding, the people etc. If the family is religious some, then the chat topic is always religious and the wishes and prayers that god will help this "future" family; the guy and the girl.
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thank you very much
yeah, i heard about this girl night before marriage and as far i understood celebrating is in turkish bath with some dances and body art.
and also (i didnt check this rule before - my fault) you cannot write in turkish here anyway
and as far as i know there is also hand kissing - as showing respect to guests.true?
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:14 pm |
Quoting lady in red: Quoting lady in red: However, if you google ´Turkish Wedding Traditions´ there is loads of information. |
Or alternatively - just ask Caliptrix!
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he was faster
of course i know that i can search in google but i thought that here i can get more individual experience and opinions without checking alot of websites - what is taking alot of time.
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:16 pm |
Quoting pansi: thank you very much
yeah, i heard about this girl night before marriage and as far i understood celebrating is in turkish bath with some dances and body art. |
I have never seen and never heard anything related to "tukish bath" and "body art" about this night.
Quote: and as far as i know there is also hand kissing - as showing respect to guests.true? |
Only to the elders enough, and depends on the situation.
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:18 pm |
AOW "body art"! sorry, yes kına!
but what is up with "Tukish bath"?
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:22 pm |
Quoting caliptrix: I have never seen and never heard anything related to "tukish bath" and "body art" about this night. |
my turkish friends told about those turkish bath night and traditional henna drawing on hands (similar like in Ãndia).Maybe it is just some their tradition...
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:41 pm |
The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:50 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces |
well i am not waiter
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:51 pm |
Quoting pansi: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces |
well i am not waiter |
No dear you are not. I am suggesting you find one - unless one of your friends already is?
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:53 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:
No dear you are not. I am suggesting you find one - unless one of your friends already is? |
i am not sure that i understood...
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:54 pm |
Quoting pansi: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:
No dear you are not. I am suggesting you find one - unless one of your friends already is? |
i am not sure that i understood... |
Nevermind - if you stay on this site you will soon learn all about dudus (and will probably get a few PMs from them too)
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:01 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting pansi: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:
No dear you are not. I am suggesting you find one - unless one of your friends already is? |
i am not sure that i understood... |
Nevermind - if you stay on this site you will soon learn all about dudus (and will probably get a few PMs from them too) |
ok i am looking forward to get full service from this website
but i am more interested about this divorcing thing - as far as i know - the second marriage is not so popular and you need to keep on living in first one no matter how bad or good it is, true?
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:05 pm |
Quoting pansi: but i am more interested about this divorcing thing - as far as i know - the second marriage is not so popular and you need to keep on living in first one no matter how bad or good it is, true? |
This is only true if your first wife is Turkish. Of course, if she is European then it doesn´t matter what happens to her as long as he gets a bit of money from you first and goes on to marry a nice virgin Turkish girl
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:08 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:
This is only true if your first wife is Turkish. Of course, if she is European then it doesn´t matter what happens to her as long as he gets a bit of money from you first and goes on to marry a nice Turkish girl |
then i have one simple question - why (often)turkish man want to marry international girls?
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:09 pm |
Money and/or visa of course!
Particularly the poorest of tourist workers who even the Turkish girls don´t want!
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:11 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Money and/or visa of course! |
but if women is not working they dont get any money from her...anyway - sounds so cruel...
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:14 pm |
Quoting pansi: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Money and/or visa of course! |
but if women is not working they dont get any money from her...anyway - sounds so cruel... |
When you have read about as many con-tricks and broken hearts as I have on this site, you will realise that it is standard practice in Turkish tourist resorts. Believe me, many of these men come from very traditional, strictly muslim families and the ONLY reason they are after the "easy, European whores" is money and visa or just sex.
If you are easily flattered by the attention they give you, you will be easily conned
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:22 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting pansi: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Money and/or visa of course! |
but if women is not working they dont get any money from her...anyway - sounds so cruel... |
If you are easily flattered by the attention they give you, you will be easily conned |
you sound very experienced do you get flattered so easily?
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:25 pm |
Quoting ciko: do you get flattered so easily? |
Only by you canim
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:26 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:
When you have read about as many con-tricks and broken hearts as I have on this site, you will realise that it is standard practice in Turkish tourist resorts. Believe me, many of these men come from very traditional, strictly muslim families and the ONLY reason they are after the "easy, European whores" is money and visa or just sex.
If you are easily flattered by the attention they give you, you will be easily conned |
sad.İ want continue this dialog with argument - that turkish family does teach to their sons how to make women special and i think that this kindness and promises etc. is what acctracting women the most because they missing this in their usual life.anyway - it is already other story
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:29 pm |
Quoting pansi: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:
When you have read about as many con-tricks and broken hearts as I have on this site, you will realise that it is standard practice in Turkish tourist resorts. Believe me, many of these men come from very traditional, strictly muslim families and the ONLY reason they are after the "easy, European whores" is money and visa or just sex.
If you are easily flattered by the attention they give you, you will be easily conned |
sad.İ want continue this dialog with argument - that turkish family does teach to their sons how to make women special and i think that this kindness and promises etc. is what acctracting women the most because they missing this in their usual life.anyway - it is already other story |
they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!!
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:34 pm |
Quoting ciko:
they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!! |
turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal)
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 09:33 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces |
Oh my, you sound very bitter.
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 09:35 pm |
Quoting alameda: Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces |
Oh my, you sound very bitter. |
Thats the point of view of people who meet Turkey only in Holiday Resorts
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 09:53 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris:
Thats the point of view of people who meet Turkey only in Holiday Resorts |
Now YOU are the one sounding bitter! I made it clear I was only talking about dudus in resorts, so your comment is irrevelent. I can see, as a newly formed dudu, how you might take my comments as insulting
(Incidently your comment about me is not true!)
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24 Jul 2008 Thu 09:59 pm |
Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting SuiGeneris:
Thats the point of view of people who meet Turkey only in Holiday Resorts |
Now YOU are the one sounding bitter! I made it clear I was only talking about dudus in resorts, so your comment is irrevelent. I can see, as a newly formed dudu, how you might take my comments as insulting
(Incidently your comment about me is not true!)
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Oh come on is it me or you who always talks about resort waiters and etc all the time
come on! and i was simply teasing you welcome to the net lol
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25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:23 am |
Quoting pansi: Quoting ciko:
they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!! |
turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal) |
what about other girls?
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25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:28 am |
Quoting MrX67: Quoting pansi: Quoting ciko:
they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!! |
turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal) |
what about other girls? |
I´m not telling!
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25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:29 am |
Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting MrX67: Quoting pansi: Quoting ciko:
they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!! |
turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal) |
what about other girls? |
I´m not telling! |
hehe your shyness telling us many things,so ty for don´t telling
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25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:30 am |
Quoting MrX67: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting MrX67: Quoting pansi: Quoting ciko:
they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!! |
turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal) |
what about other girls? |
I´m not telling! |
hehe your shyness telling us many things,so ty for don´t telling |
MrX...nice girls don´t talk about such things!! and nice boys don´t ask!!
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25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:32 am |
so hard to be nice boy always,so no harm on an innocent cheekyness i think
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21 Oct 2008 Tue 04:05 pm |
I want ask only one question. I´m an Egyption man. When I got married with Turkish woman, I´ll got legal residence permit in Turkey due to Turkish laws?
Pleased so much for any help.
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21 Oct 2008 Tue 04:32 pm |
I want ask only one question. I´m an Egyption man. When I got married with Turkish woman, I´ll got legal residence permit in Turkey due to Turkish laws?
Pleased so much for any help.
You get residence, but not citizenship. You have to be married at least 3 years for that
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21 Oct 2008 Tue 05:23 pm |
You get residence, but not citizenship. You have to be married at least 3 years for that
in some other post i saw 2 years. sorry,i cann´t quote it here - do not remeber when and where saw it
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21 Oct 2008 Tue 05:50 pm |
Quoting pansi
Nevermind - if you stay on this site you will soon learn all about dudus (and will probably get a few PMs from them too)
ok i am looking forward to get full service from this website
get new login, indicate your sex and some "nice" country and you will get many messages )
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22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:33 pm |
Quoting raindrops
get new login, indicate your sex and some "nice" country and you will get many messages )
can I get at least a hint on "nice" countries list lutfen
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22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:38 pm |
Quoting amnariel
can I get at least a hint on "nice" countries list lutfen
UK? US? Belgium? Germany? The Netherlands? Is that enough choice?
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22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:41 pm |
UK? US? Belgium? Germany? The Netherlands? Is that enough choice?
hmmmmmmmm....
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22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:16 pm |
in some other post i saw 2 years. sorry,i cann´t quote it here - do not remeber when and where saw it
It is 3 years
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22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:40 pm |
It is 3 years
Well, you can´t sya for sure. Though they have changed the citizenship rules, still it has to go to the parliament (Ithink) to be confirmed.. and they ask for sooo many documents..
Regarding the Turkish men, I believe you can hardly meet someone serious and well educated in the holiday resorts. Though they will be fun and sometimes well educated, and they make you feel you are very special and the only one, they most of the times don´t think so.
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23 Oct 2008 Thu 12:51 am |
in some other post i saw 2 years. sorry,i cann´t quote it here - do not remeber when and where saw it
Really, lot of thanks for both of you. Now I´m asking for the following question:
If I get Legal Residnce Permit based on marriage due to Turkish law, it will be easy to get also legal work permit?
Thx
Ahmed
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24 Oct 2008 Fri 07:13 am |
Money and/or visa of course! Particularly the poorest of tourist workers who even the Turkish girls don´t want!
This is a derogatary statement. I am referring to "who even the Turkish girls" part. You are generalizing the matter and labelling tens of millions of people...
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24 Oct 2008 Fri 11:37 am |
This is a derogatary statement. I am referring to "who even the Turkish girls" part. You are generalizing the matter and labelling tens of millions of people...
It took you so long to reply
Yes you are right - I would have normally written "who Turkish girls don´t want" but it was more fun to make you angry dimi?
If I didn´t write that you would not reply - Admin pays me $10 an hour to keep number of "hits" on this website high
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24 Oct 2008 Fri 10:13 pm |
Well, well, well...
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 02:48 pm |
Money and/or visa of course! Particularly the poorest of tourist workers who even the Turkish girls don´t want!
i think your very rude wrtiting things like that on here... is it so hard to believe that somtimes two people from different countries just fall in love and want to be together.....if you are so cynical then leave these forums for genuine people who just need help and advise!!
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 03:08 pm |
i think your very rude wrtiting things like that on here... is it so hard to believe that somtimes two people from different countries just fall in love and want to be together.....if you are so cynical then leave these forums for genuine people who just need help and advise!!
If you read all the translation requests, often desperate, yes, that is very hard to believe!
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 03:19 pm |
some english people steal.... does that make ALL english people theives????? there are good and bad people from every country... have you seen facebook and bebo lately.... english men are just as dsesperate to use women too, i dont think that all turkish men should be stereotyped...its not fair!!
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 03:38 pm |
some english people steal.... does that make ALL english people theives????? there are good and bad people from every country... have you seen facebook and bebo lately.... english men are just as dsesperate to use women too, i dont think that all turkish men should be stereotyped...its not fair!!
Let me guess: he just told you that you are special and he loves you? Great, I wish you all happiness there is. However, don´t be surprised if some people are just a little bit sarcastic after reading thousands of requests for translation, of stories ending ´not so happily ever after´, of betrayal and more. Fair or not fair, it´s the truth seen here on this site.
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:06 pm |
I don´t get involved in things like this at all, but seeing as perhaps I could be considered as one of the girls who requests some translations about my story not ending happily, I still have to say that I too don´t think it´s fair to stereotype. A member of my family has been with an English guy 10 years, just married him, they have two children, and he´s confessed to have had many affairs! I know many people who have been cheated on by English men in the same scenario, but I don´t tar them all with the same brush. And yes, I´m British.
I can see two sides of this, I realise the endless love messages may be tiring to read and yes, in resorts I too know that some people are conned, but love does exist in this world and although it´s right to be cynical to a point, maybe, just maybe ,some people mean these things when they say them. Nobody can know two people´s situation unless they are in it themself, however similar it may seem to another. And the recipients of the messages do have feelings, if they read things like this and sarcastic comments then how will they feel? Confused and insecure, which could put a strain on their relationship to begin with! They come here to learn and to ask for help.
I too have seen on Facebook etc men of all nationalities who make lewd comments, who are desperately seeking anything other than ´love´, but I don´t discriminate against their race however many of them I see- it´s the individual whose behaviour I judge.
Sorry if I have offended anyone here- I must have drunk too much coffee and broke my silence. :S
Edited (4/26/2009) by *Carla Louise*
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:15 pm |
well said carla louise... thankyou, you make perfect sense! yes trudy he did tell me he loved me ect.... 6 long happy years ago and has done evry day since... you are obviously bitter for a reason and im sorry you experienced that but your comments are very hurtful to honest turkish men and their partners, we get judged and sterio typed from the general public... even friends and family.. so we look to sites like this for help and advise, not critisism and insults
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:30 pm |
Just be natural, warm, modest and respectful to elders....no big deal, you will make it !
When in doubt, consult your husband-to-be.
Edited (4/26/2009) by AlphaF
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:34 pm |
I don´t get involved in things like this at all, but seeing as perhaps I could be considered as one of the girls who requests some translations about my story not ending happily, I still have to say that I too don´t think it´s fair to stereotype. A member of my family has been with an English guy 10 years, just married him, they have two children, and he´s confessed to have had many affairs! I know many people who have been cheated on by English men in the same scenario, but I don´t tar them all with the same brush. And yes, I´m British.
I can see two sides of this, I realise the endless love messages may be tiring to read and yes, in resorts I too know that some people are conned, but love does exist in this world and although it´s right to be cynical to a point, maybe, just maybe ,some people mean these things when they say them. Nobody can know two people´s situation unless they are in it themself, however similar it may seem to another. And the recipients of the messages do have feelings, if they read things like this and sarcastic comments then how will they feel? Confused and insecure, which could put a strain on their relationship to begin with! They come here to learn and to ask for help.
I too have seen on Facebook etc men of all nationalities who make lewd comments, who are desperately seeking anything other than ´love´, but I don´t discriminate against their race however many of them I see- it´s the individual whose behaviour I judge.
Sorry if I have offended anyone here- I must have drunk too much coffee and broke my silence. :S
Canim, you certainly didn´t offend me. Good that you ´broke the silence´. However, you too agree - at least that´s what I read in your message - that there are many con-situations? So, it´s not so strange at all people look suspiciously towards those love stories? Of course, not all people are the same, of course it happens everywhere, but I guess that the chance of getting betrayed with a guy from a resort (who sees loads of women every week) is at least slightly bigger than a John Doe from, let´s say, Nottinhham or Hastings?
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:49 pm |
Trudy, pls dont beat about the bush....pls tell us what ZAMAN thinks about the subject....Thanks to you, we are now addcted to their views.
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26 Apr 2009 Sun 05:14 pm |
Trudy, pls dont beat about the bush....pls tell us what ZAMAN thinks about the subject....Thanks to you, we are now addcted to their views.
Having a cold turkey?
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27 Apr 2009 Mon 12:16 pm |
If you read all the translation requests, often desperate, yes, that is very hard to believe!
desperation is louder than hapinness...
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27 Apr 2009 Mon 06:46 pm |
well said carla louise... thankyou, you make perfect sense! yes trudy he did tell me he loved me ect.... 6 long happy years ago and has done evry day since... you are obviously bitter for a reason and im sorry you experienced that but your comments are very hurtful to honest turkish men and their partners, we get judged and sterio typed from the general public... even friends and family.. so we look to sites like this for help and advise, not critisism and insults
Well said Elif84. I also commend Carla´s statement. I know more than a few Turkish/American marriages. Most have worked out quite well, and at least as well as American/American marriages, if not better. As in everything, it depends on the particular people involved.
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28 Apr 2009 Tue 01:07 am |
thankyou alameda, someone has to stick up for people in mixed race relationships... my daughter will grow up with dual heritage and i certainly dont want her to be hearing comments like that... somethin else you sceptics ought to think about!!!! everyone is entitled to their opinion and yes, these forums are for people to express them but there is no reason to be hurtful x
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28 Apr 2009 Tue 09:51 am |
thankyou alameda, someone has to stick up for people in mixed race relationships... my daughter will grow up with dual heritage and i certainly dont want her to be hearing comments like that... somethin else you sceptics ought to think about!!!! everyone is entitled to their opinion and yes, these forums are for people to express them but there is no reason to be hurtful x
Actually if you take it personal it will hurt, but if you are neutral you can see some rational seeds.
take it easy. you have your own opinion, others - the same. Words are just declaration, your deeds are the best proof
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