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1.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 03:24 pm

Please share your experience or knowledge about turkish wedding ceremony, traditions and afterparty.For native speakers - please write in turkish - so i can learn a bit
thanks

2.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 03:40 pm

Quoting pansi:

Please share your experience or knowledge about turkish wedding ceremony, traditions and afterparty.For native speakers - please write in turkish - so i can learn a bit
thanks



Pansi - people shouldn´t write in Turkish here as the forum rules state:

The official language of all forums is English with the following exceptions and details: • The language ‘Teaching Turkish’ forum is Turkish only.
• ‘Language’ and ‘Turkish Translation’ forums can have Turkish texts according the nature of these boards.

However, if you google ´Turkish Wedding Traditions´ there is loads of information and maybe you can copy and paste something to the translation section then you can see it in English and Turkish!

3.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 03:44 pm

oops!

4.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:00 pm

Quoting pansi:

Please share your experience or knowledge about turkish wedding ceremony, traditions and afterparty.For native speakers - please write in turkish - so i can learn a bit
thanks



Generally girl is wanted first as a tradition. Boy´s family come to the house of girl´s as a visiting. And then they "want" the girl to their boy, "in the order of god" etc. religious things. After girl´s family accept, they arrange the days for "promise","engagement" and "marriage". Söz kesmek ( = Promise) may not be necessary for some families. They directly make the engagement´s arrangement first. After that, they arrange the wedding time... It depends on the traditions of the family and the region they live. Details can be too many. There is a TV show here, our Turkish friends may know it: "Şoray Uzun Yolda", the speaker of the show travels in Turkey and visits different types of wedding parties and some other ceremonies. As far as I see, every single region has its own customs, details, symbols.

My experiences are little. I see that there is a special night before the wedding day. It is called "kına gecesi". Women do something themselves, and men never be with them at this whole night. As I am a guy, I have been always with the men, and we just sit and chat about the world, about the wedding, the people etc. If the family is religious some, then the chat topic is always religious and the wishes and prayers that god will help this "future" family; the guy and the girl.

Wedding party type is changing day by day. In past, as far as I remember, we used to go to a big open platform such as a free field, less houses or buildngs. There were some musicians, especially drummer and the player of "zurna". People sit down to the chairs, the owner of the wedding give a little dinner and/or some cake and drinks like cola etc. When the time come, music starts and people dance in a folkloric way generally.

In these years, there is no "open" wedding parties as far as I see. We go to the special wedding places like indoor concerts.

During this ceremony/party, there is a "takı takma" time. Guests of the ceremony come with their gifts, generally golds. If not gold, their gifts are money. In this "takı takma" time, people make a queue and give their gifts by attaching on the dress of bride and/or groom. "takı=ornament/affix" and "takmak= to attach".

I see these years, there are some families that make a ceremony without music, or the music may exist but without any type of dance. You just go to the wedding ceremony room, can be like a restaurant, and people eat the wedding dinner. There is a similar "takı takma". And then people leave the ceremony. This is generally preferred by the religious families. They don´t want people dance or listen to the music loudly. I attended one of this type wedding. It was the wedding of the sister of my friend. It was very nice indeed, very calm. No flashiness. Sure some people don´t like this type ceremonies, everyone has its type.

One of my observations about these ceremonies is that there are always some crazy people, no respect to the weddng family. They always bring alcohol even though wedding family warn people: "Our wedding don´t have alcohol". And this was always surprized for me: this freaks make a scene during the wedding, create a little scandal. And the owners of the wedding interfere and make them go out of the wedding, without another new "bitter" event.

I don´t know more what can be done in these parties or ceremonies. As I said, there may be many differnt customs, traditions, symbolic celebrations.

I didn´t write them all in Turkish because I have doubts that you are able to understand. I hope it helps.

5.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:09 pm

Quoting lady in red:

However, if you google ´Turkish Wedding Traditions´ there is loads of information.



Or alternatively - just ask Caliptrix!

6.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:12 pm


My experiences are little. I see that there is a special night before the wedding day. It is called "kına gecesi". Women do something themselves, and men never be with them at this whole night. As I am a guy, I have been always with the men, and we just sit and chat about the world, about the wedding, the people etc. If the family is religious some, then the chat topic is always religious and the wishes and prayers that god will help this "future" family; the guy and the girl.

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thank you very much
yeah, i heard about this girl night before marriage and as far i understood celebrating is in turkish bath with some dances and body art.
and also (i didnt check this rule before - my fault) you cannot write in turkish here anyway
and as far as i know there is also hand kissing - as showing respect to guests.true?

7.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:14 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting lady in red:

However, if you google ´Turkish Wedding Traditions´ there is loads of information.



Or alternatively - just ask Caliptrix!



he was faster
of course i know that i can search in google but i thought that here i can get more individual experience and opinions without checking alot of websites - what is taking alot of time.

8.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:16 pm

Quoting pansi:

thank you very much
yeah, i heard about this girl night before marriage and as far i understood celebrating is in turkish bath with some dances and body art.



I have never seen and never heard anything related to "tukish bath" and "body art" about this night.

Quote:

and as far as i know there is also hand kissing - as showing respect to guests.true?



Only to the elders enough, and depends on the situation.

9.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:18 pm

AOW "body art"! sorry, yes kına!
but what is up with "Tukish bath"?

10.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:22 pm

Quoting caliptrix:

I have never seen and never heard anything related to "tukish bath" and "body art" about this night.

my turkish friends told about those turkish bath night and traditional henna drawing on hands (similar like in Ýndia).Maybe it is just some their tradition...

11.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:41 pm

The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces lol

12.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:50 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces lol



well i am not waiter

13.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:51 pm

Quoting pansi:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces lol



well i am not waiter



No dear you are not. I am suggesting you find one - unless one of your friends already is?

14.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:53 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


No dear you are not. I am suggesting you find one - unless one of your friends already is?



i am not sure that i understood...

15.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:54 pm

Quoting pansi:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


No dear you are not. I am suggesting you find one - unless one of your friends already is?



i am not sure that i understood...



Nevermind - if you stay on this site you will soon learn all about dudus (and will probably get a few PMs from them too) lol

16.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:01 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting pansi:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


No dear you are not. I am suggesting you find one - unless one of your friends already is?



i am not sure that i understood...



Nevermind - if you stay on this site you will soon learn all about dudus (and will probably get a few PMs from them too) lol



ok i am looking forward to get full service from this website

but i am more interested about this divorcing thing - as far as i know - the second marriage is not so popular and you need to keep on living in first one no matter how bad or good it is, true?

17.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:05 pm

Quoting pansi:

but i am more interested about this divorcing thing - as far as i know - the second marriage is not so popular and you need to keep on living in first one no matter how bad or good it is, true?



This is only true if your first wife is Turkish. Of course, if she is European then it doesn´t matter what happens to her as long as he gets a bit of money from you first and goes on to marry a nice virgin Turkish girl

18.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:08 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


This is only true if your first wife is Turkish. Of course, if she is European then it doesn´t matter what happens to her as long as he gets a bit of money from you first and goes on to marry a nice Turkish girl



then i have one simple question - why (often)turkish man want to marry international girls?

19.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:09 pm

Money and/or visa of course!
Particularly the poorest of tourist workers who even the Turkish girls don´t want!

20.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:11 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Money and/or visa of course!



but if women is not working they dont get any money from her...anyway - sounds so cruel...

21.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:14 pm

Quoting pansi:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Money and/or visa of course!



but if women is not working they dont get any money from her...anyway - sounds so cruel...



When you have read about as many con-tricks and broken hearts as I have on this site, you will realise that it is standard practice in Turkish tourist resorts. Believe me, many of these men come from very traditional, strictly muslim families and the ONLY reason they are after the "easy, European whores" is money and visa or just sex.

If you are easily flattered by the attention they give you, you will be easily conned

22.       ciko
784 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:22 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting pansi:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Money and/or visa of course!



but if women is not working they dont get any money from her...anyway - sounds so cruel...




If you are easily flattered by the attention they give you, you will be easily conned



you sound very experienced do you get flattered so easily?

23.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:25 pm

Quoting ciko:

do you get flattered so easily?



Only by you canim

24.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:26 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


When you have read about as many con-tricks and broken hearts as I have on this site, you will realise that it is standard practice in Turkish tourist resorts. Believe me, many of these men come from very traditional, strictly muslim families and the ONLY reason they are after the "easy, European whores" is money and visa or just sex.

If you are easily flattered by the attention they give you, you will be easily conned



sad.İ want continue this dialog with argument - that turkish family does teach to their sons how to make women special and i think that this kindness and promises etc. is what acctracting women the most because they missing this in their usual life.anyway - it is already other story

25.       ciko
784 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:29 pm

Quoting pansi:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


When you have read about as many con-tricks and broken hearts as I have on this site, you will realise that it is standard practice in Turkish tourist resorts. Believe me, many of these men come from very traditional, strictly muslim families and the ONLY reason they are after the "easy, European whores" is money and visa or just sex.

If you are easily flattered by the attention they give you, you will be easily conned



sad.İ want continue this dialog with argument - that turkish family does teach to their sons how to make women special and i think that this kindness and promises etc. is what acctracting women the most because they missing this in their usual life.anyway - it is already other story



they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!!

26.       pansi
94 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:34 pm

Quoting ciko:


they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!!



turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal)

27.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 09:33 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces lol



Oh my, you sound very bitter.

28.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 09:35 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

The best way to find out about Turkish weddings is to find yourself a Turkish waiter. You will quickly learn all about weddings, visas, how much money is coming out of your bank account and quicky divorces lol



Oh my, you sound very bitter.



Thats the point of view of people who meet Turkey only in Holiday Resorts

29.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 09:53 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:


Thats the point of view of people who meet Turkey only in Holiday Resorts



Now YOU are the one sounding bitter! I made it clear I was only talking about dudus in resorts, so your comment is irrevelent. I can see, as a newly formed dudu, how you might take my comments as insulting

(Incidently your comment about me is not true!)

30.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 09:59 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting SuiGeneris:


Thats the point of view of people who meet Turkey only in Holiday Resorts



Now YOU are the one sounding bitter! I made it clear I was only talking about dudus in resorts, so your comment is irrevelent. I can see, as a newly formed dudu, how you might take my comments as insulting

(Incidently your comment about me is not true!)



Oh come on is it me or you who always talks about resort waiters and etc all the time

come on! and i was simply teasing you welcome to the net lol

31.       MrX67
2540 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:23 am

Quoting pansi:

Quoting ciko:


they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!!



turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal)

what about other girls?

32.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:28 am

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting pansi:

Quoting ciko:


they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!!



turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal)

what about other girls?



I´m not telling!

33.       MrX67
2540 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:29 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting pansi:

Quoting ciko:


they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!!



turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal)

what about other girls?



I´m not telling!

hehe your shyness telling us many things,so ty for don´t telling

34.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:30 am

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting pansi:

Quoting ciko:


they make foreign women feel special only because they are so tired of turkish girls there is nothing learned by family !!!



turkish girls need to be virgin (nothing personal)

what about other girls?



I´m not telling!

hehe your shyness telling us many things,so ty for don´t telling



MrX...nice girls don´t talk about such things!! and nice boys don´t ask!!

35.       MrX67
2540 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 12:32 am

so hard to be nice boy always,so no harm on an innocent cheekyness i think

36.       A.F.Hussein
6 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 04:05 pm

I want ask only one question. I´m an Egyption man. When I got married with Turkish woman, I´ll got legal residence permit in Turkey due to Turkish laws?

 

Pleased so much for any help.

37.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 04:32 pm

 

Quoting A.F.Hussein

I want ask only one question. I´m an Egyption man. When I got married with Turkish woman, I´ll got legal residence permit in Turkey due to Turkish laws?

 

Pleased so much for any help.

 

 You get residence, but not citizenship.  You have to be married at least 3 years for that

38.       raindrops
267 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 05:23 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 You get residence, but not citizenship.  You have to be married at least 3 years for that

 

 in some other post i saw 2 years. sorry,i cann´t quote it here - do not remeber when and where saw it

39.       raindrops
267 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 05:50 pm

 

Quoting pansi

Nevermind - if you stay on this site you will soon learn all about dudus (and will probably get a few PMs from them too) lol

ok i am looking forward to get full service from this website

 

 get new login, indicate your sex and some "nice" country and you will get many messages )

40.       amnariel
138 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:33 pm

 

Quoting raindrops

get new login, indicate your sex and some "nice" country and you will get many messages )

 

 

can I get at least a hint on "nice" countries list lutfen

 

 

41.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:38 pm

 

Quoting amnariel

 

can I get at least a hint on "nice" countries list lutfen

 

 UK? US? Belgium? Germany? The Netherlands? Is that enough choice? lol

42.       amnariel
138 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:41 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 UK? US? Belgium? Germany? The Netherlands? Is that enough choice? lol

 

hmmmmmmmm....

 

43.       Lane
36 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:16 pm

 

Quoting raindrops

 in some other post i saw 2 years. sorry,i cann´t quote it here - do not remeber when and where saw it

 

It is 3 years{#lang_emotions_smile}

44.       Merih
933 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:40 pm

 

Quoting Lane

It is 3 years{#lang_emotions_smile}

 

 Well, you can´t sya for sure.  Though they have changed the citizenship rules, still it has to go to the parliament (Ithink) to be confirmed.. and they ask for sooo many documents..

 

Regarding the Turkish men,  I believe you can hardly meet someone serious and well educated in the holiday resorts.  Though they will be fun and sometimes well educated, and they make you feel you are very special and the only one, they most of the times don´t think so.

 

45.       A.F.Hussein
6 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 12:51 am

 

Quoting raindrops

 in some other post i saw 2 years. sorry,i cann´t quote it here - do not remeber when and where saw it

 

 Really, lot of thanks for both of you. Now I´m asking for the following question:

If I get Legal Residnce Permit based on marriage due to Turkish law, it will be easy to get also legal work permit?

Thx

Ahmed

46.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 07:13 am

 

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea

Money and/or visa of course! Particularly the poorest of tourist workers who even the Turkish girls don´t want!

 

This is a  derogatary statement. I am referring to "who even the Turkish girls" part. You are generalizing the matter and labelling tens of millions of people...

47.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 11:37 am

 

Quoting vineyards

This is a  derogatary statement. I am referring to "who even the Turkish girls" part. You are generalizing the matter and labelling tens of millions of people...

 

It took you so long to reply

Yes you are right - I would have normally written "who Turkish girls don´t want" but it was more fun to make you angry dimi?  

 

If I didn´t write that you would not reply - Admin pays me $10 an hour to keep number of "hits" on this website high lol lol lol

48.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 10:13 pm

Well, well, well...

49.       elif84
5 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 02:48 pm

 

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea

Money and/or visa of course! Particularly the poorest of tourist workers who even the Turkish girls don´t want!

 

 i think your very rude wrtiting things like that on here... is it so hard to believe that somtimes two people from different countries just fall in love and want to be together.....if you are so cynical then leave these forums for genuine people who just need help and advise!!

50.       Trudy
7887 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 03:08 pm

 

Quoting elif84

 

 

 i think your very rude wrtiting things like that on here... is it so hard to believe that somtimes two people from different countries just fall in love and want to be together.....if you are so cynical then leave these forums for genuine people who just need help and advise!!

 

 If you read all the translation requests, often desperate, yes, that is very hard to believe!

51.       elif84
5 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 03:19 pm

some english people steal.... does that make ALL english people theives?????  there are good and bad people from every country... have you seen facebook and bebo lately.... english men are just as dsesperate to use women too, i dont think that all turkish men should be stereotyped...its not fair!!

52.       Trudy
7887 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 03:38 pm

 

Quoting elif84

some english people steal.... does that make ALL english people theives?????  there are good and bad people from every country... have you seen facebook and bebo lately.... english men are just as dsesperate to use women too, i dont think that all turkish men should be stereotyped...its not fair!!

 

Let me guess: he just told you that you are special and he loves you? Great, I wish you all happiness there is. However, don´t be surprised if some people are just a little bit sarcastic after reading thousands of requests for translation, of stories ending ´not so happily ever after´, of betrayal and more. Fair or not fair, it´s the truth seen here on this site.

53.       *Carla Louise*
207 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:06 pm

I don´t get involved in things like this at all, but seeing as perhaps I could be considered as one of the girls who requests some translations about my story not ending happily, I still have to say that I too don´t think it´s fair to stereotype. A member of my family has been with an English guy 10 years, just married him, they have two children, and he´s confessed to have had many affairs! I know many people who have been cheated on by English men in the same scenario, but I don´t tar them all with the same brush. And yes, I´m British.

I can see two sides of this, I realise the endless love messages may be tiring to read and yes, in resorts I too know that some people are conned, but love does exist in this world and although it´s right to be cynical to a point, maybe, just maybe ,some people mean these things when they say them. Nobody can know two people´s situation unless they are in it themself, however similar it may seem to another. And the recipients of the messages do have feelings, if they read things like this and sarcastic comments then how will they feel? Confused  and insecure, which could put a strain on their relationship to begin with! They come here to learn and to ask for help.

I too have seen on Facebook etc men of all nationalities who make lewd comments, who are desperately seeking anything other than ´love´, but I don´t discriminate against their race however many of them I see- it´s the individual whose behaviour I judge.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here- I must have drunk too much coffee and broke my silence. :S



Edited (4/26/2009) by *Carla Louise*

54.       elif84
5 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:15 pm

well said carla louise... thankyou, you make perfect sense!   yes trudy he did tell me he loved me ect.... 6 long happy years ago and has done evry day since... you are obviously bitter for a reason and im sorry you experienced that but your comments are very hurtful to honest turkish men and their partners, we get judged and sterio typed from the general public... even friends and family.. so we look to sites like this for help and advise, not critisism and insults

55.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:30 pm

Just be natural, warm, modest and respectful to elders....no big deal, you will make it !

When in doubt, consult your husband-to-be.



Edited (4/26/2009) by AlphaF

56.       Trudy
7887 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:34 pm

 

Quoting *Carla Louise*

I don´t get involved in things like this at all, but seeing as perhaps I could be considered as one of the girls who requests some translations about my story not ending happily, I still have to say that I too don´t think it´s fair to stereotype. A member of my family has been with an English guy 10 years, just married him, they have two children, and he´s confessed to have had many affairs! I know many people who have been cheated on by English men in the same scenario, but I don´t tar them all with the same brush. And yes, I´m British.

I can see two sides of this, I realise the endless love messages may be tiring to read and yes, in resorts I too know that some people are conned, but love does exist in this world and although it´s right to be cynical to a point, maybe, just maybe ,some people mean these things when they say them. Nobody can know two people´s situation unless they are in it themself, however similar it may seem to another. And the recipients of the messages do have feelings, if they read things like this and sarcastic comments then how will they feel? Confused  and insecure, which could put a strain on their relationship to begin with! They come here to learn and to ask for help.

I too have seen on Facebook etc men of all nationalities who make lewd comments, who are desperately seeking anything other than ´love´, but I don´t discriminate against their race however many of them I see- it´s the individual whose behaviour I judge.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here- I must have drunk too much coffee and broke my silence. :S

 

 Canim, you certainly didn´t offend me. Good that you ´broke the silence´. However, you too agree - at least that´s what I read in your message - that there are many con-situations? So, it´s not so strange at all people look suspiciously towards those love stories? Of course, not all people are the same, of course it happens everywhere, but I guess that the chance of getting betrayed with a guy from a resort (who sees loads of women every week) is at least slightly bigger than a John Doe from, let´s say, Nottinhham or Hastings?

57.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 04:49 pm

Trudy, pls dont beat about the bush....pls tell us what ZAMAN thinks about the subject....Thanks to you, we are now addcted to their views. Alcoholics

58.       Trudy
7887 posts
 26 Apr 2009 Sun 05:14 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

Trudy, pls dont beat about the bush....pls tell us what ZAMAN thinks about the subject....Thanks to you, we are now addcted to their views. Alcoholics

 

 Having a cold turkey? lol

59.       raindrops
267 posts
 27 Apr 2009 Mon 12:16 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 If you read all the translation requests, often desperate, yes, that is very hard to believe!

 

desperation is louder than hapinness...

 

60.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Apr 2009 Mon 06:46 pm

 

Quoting elif84

well said carla louise... thankyou, you make perfect sense!   yes trudy he did tell me he loved me ect.... 6 long happy years ago and has done evry day since... you are obviously bitter for a reason and im sorry you experienced that but your comments are very hurtful to honest turkish men and their partners, we get judged and sterio typed from the general public... even friends and family.. so we look to sites like this for help and advise, not critisism and insults

 

 Well said Elif84.  I also commend Carla´s statement.  I know more than a few Turkish/American marriages.  Most have worked out quite well, and at least as well as American/American marriages, if not better.   As in everything, it depends on the particular people involved.

61.       elif84
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 28 Apr 2009 Tue 01:07 am

thankyou alameda, someone has to stick up for people in mixed race relationships... my daughter will grow up with dual heritage and i certainly dont want her to be hearing comments like that... somethin else you sceptics ought to think about!!!!  everyone is entitled to their opinion and yes, these forums are for people to express them but there is no reason to be hurtful x

62.       raindrops
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 28 Apr 2009 Tue 09:51 am

 

Quoting elif84

thankyou alameda, someone has to stick up for people in mixed race relationships... my daughter will grow up with dual heritage and i certainly dont want her to be hearing comments like that... somethin else you sceptics ought to think about!!!!  everyone is entitled to their opinion and yes, these forums are for people to express them but there is no reason to be hurtful x

 

Actually if you take it personal it will hurt, but if you are neutral you can see some rational seeds.

take it easy. you have your own opinion, others - the same. Words are just declaration, your deeds are the best proof

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