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70.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 02:40 am

Women Pushing for Increased Representation in Turkey

Seventy years ago, Turkey was one of the first countries to give women the vote. Seven decades later, there is only one woman in Turkey´s 20-member parliament. From Istanbul, Dorian Jones reports on a new initiative to build women´s political power.

Didem Engin is not your typical Turkish politician. For one thing Engin is only 30 years old. She is also a woman.

Engin says the days of women having only five percent of the seats in parliament have to end.

"Once we are going to have more and more women in parliament, I believe the rights of the women have to be much more discussed in the parliament," siad Engin.

Kader, a non-partisan group, wants to put more women in parliament. Nuket Sirman is one of the founders of Kader. She says the members of the organization came up with what they think is a winning slogan to promote their cause.

"We took out mustaches and stuck them on our faces, and the slogan was, is a mustache necessary, in other words do you have to be a man to go into parliament," said Sirman.

Kader took the idea a step further. The group persuaded many of Turkey´s most powerful women, including pop stars and business leaders, to don mustaches, to highlight the male domination of parliament. The media ran with the story. Soon Turks were seeing famous women wearing mustaches on television and in newspapers and magazines. Sirman says the publicity campaign has struck a chord.

"For the first time in the elections you had huge numbers of women, going to political parties and asking to become candidates," said Sirman. "Of course this is very very difficult because most political parties demand enormous sums of money from candidates and, of course, women are not the richest people in this country. So that is a very big problem."

And, it is not the only problem. All Turkish party leaders are men. It has been difficult for women to be taken seriously. One exception may be Neval Sevindi. She is first on her party´s list of candidates in Istanbul. Sevendi says her position has raised eyebrows among her male colleagues.

"When are politicians inside our party, look at me, oh you are women," said Sevindi. "How you get first [laughs] and I have to be strong, but I don´t want to change my women identity because I want to show new role model."

The coffee shop is one of Turkey´s male domain´s. It is traditionally a place where men go to escape their wives and enjoy a game of dominos or cards. But the men here say they support female candidates. Taxi driver Metin Demir says he is disappointed few women are running for office. this year.

He says the most of his countrymen support equality. But, he says women must work hard to see it becomes a reality

During her campaign, Didem Engin has met a lot of Turkish men, who share the opinion of that taxi driver. In fact, Engin thinks people are ahead of the politicians when it comes to women having power.

"I believe that there is much more and more role for the leaders of the party to support women and bring them to the parliament, because Turkish society likes to see women acting," saidn Engin. "We had a women prime minister. When we are talking to people in the street, they really want to see women and young persons, so I believe Turkish society is really supporting women."

This Sunday´s election appears likely to justify Engin´s optimism, as political analylsts are predicting that the next parliament could see a near tripling of women deputies. Advocates of Turkish women´s rights hope that this will pave the way to their voices being increasingly heard in Turkish politics.



71.       MichelleAnne
21 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 06:12 am

I think that no matter where you come from you are what you were made to be. If you grow up around patriarcal ruling you will grow and continue the path, same is true if you reverse the example. I believe so because i was raised very far from religion and i had toys ´suitable´ for male and female. I was thought to cook and repair a car. I took dancing classes and played sports. I was raised in a non traditional family. I see the difference I have with others. I also believe that if you show someone (girl or boy) that he or she can do what he wants, that there is no gender limits, he or she can grow up to be exactly same. Like we say here, it does matter who you are, what metters is how you were born


72.       doudi94
845 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 08:19 pm

Opinion of the Committee on Women´s Rights and Gender Equality


The Committee on Women´s Rights and Gender Equality calls on the Committee on Foreign Affairs, as the committee responsible, to incorporate the following suggestions in its motion for a resolution:


having regard to its resolutions of 6 July 2005 [1] and of 13 February 2007 [2] on women´s role in social, economic and political life in Turkey,

1. Emphasises that respecting human rights, including women’s rights, is a conditio sinequa non for membership of the EU and calls on the Commission to make the issue of human rights, in particular women’s rights a priority in its negotiations with Turkey;


2. Underlines the importance for Turkey of combating all forms of discrimination in line with Article 13 EC treaty, which requires equality for all regardless of sex, racial or ethnic origin, religion or belief, disability, age or sexual orientation;



15. Calls on the Turkish authorities to further tackle the gender gap in primary education and to better monitor drop-outs, especially of girls.


12. Commends the Turkish government on its support for successful cooperation projects between EU and Turkish partners, such as the twinning project which is preparing for an independent gender equality body and which is training 750 officials on gender mainstreaming, expects that such a gender equality body will be created without delay;


9. Considers it crucial that the new constitution should ensure gender equality and provides women with more, not fewer, rights, including full enjoyment of their right to work; that it should lay the foundations for equal representation at all levels of decision making, that it should avoid the use of vague criteria such as "General Morality"; that it should refrain from perceiving women primarily as family or community members or as a vulnerable group needing protection and that it should reaffirm women’s human rights, including their sexual and reproductive rights, as their individual rights;


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73.       vineyards
1954 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 03:17 am

This is cool doudi. Nevertheless, there are a number of things that Turkish women could set an example for women in say Germany, Sweden and France. In Sweden women receive less pension money than males. In German army, female soldiers are paid less; and in France, they are also  penalized for being women; i.e. problems in maternal duties etc.


In Turkey, salaries are paid in equal terms. There are tons of examples from both the private and public sectors. A number of my friends have wives receiving better salaries than themselves. My wife too was paid more than I was when we were working in comperable positions.


It is indeed very funny to come up with a list of requirements every now and then when there are still a lot of things to be corrected in one´s own society.


Many of Turkey´s problems are linked to ignorance and poverty in remote parts of the country. Many of the problems regarding gender equality in Europe however, are not directly linked to affluence. They are usually cultural problems stemming from a patriarchal heritage. Would it be otherwise, deficiencies in gender equality in this country could not be corrected so rapidly as people become wealthier.


Learners of the Turkish language should have noticed, there is NO GENDER in our language either. Women and Men are not referred to differently nor is there a gender classification of nouns or adjectives. Isn´t this noteworthy?

74.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 01:01 pm


Quoting vineyards

... Turkish women could set an example for women in say Germany, Sweden and France. ....

In Turkey, salaries are paid in equal terms. There are tons of examples from both the private and public sectors. ....


Had there been some statistics regarding what you say, it would have been much better.


75.       vineyards
1954 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 11:31 pm


Quoting thehandsom

Quoting vineyards

... Turkish women could set an example for women in say Germany, Sweden and France. ....

In Turkey, salaries are paid in equal terms. There are tons of examples from both the private and public sectors. ....


Had there been some statistics regarding what you say, it would have been much better.



True but:


* This is not an academic platform

* The EU report does not provide any tangible evidence backed by comperative statistical data either.

* It is ridiculous  to trust some French or German bureucrat for the solutions of your social problems.

* I have included my own personal observations. Anyone could just do the same. Have you ever heard of a boss offering gender based salaries. In corporates the recruitment procedure has become very sophisticated. True they pay tremendous attention to personal details but I have  never heard of sex being one of them.




76.       hillside
3 posts
 10 Sep 2008 Wed 05:59 pm

Having lived in Istanbul for five years, it seemed to me that there is a considerable degree of gender equality in that city. I can´t speak for the east, or rest of Turkey.


Of course, by gender equality, we usually mean women having as much or more rights than men.


Women seemed to be successful in all walks of life--right to the top. Turkish women under these successful women complained and claimed they would rather have a man than a woman as a boss and employer. Their point beign the women were tyrants.


I personally didn´t have any problems.


Men are also equal with women--equal access to children after a divorce or separation. If you are a father in England, for example, you have no rights whatsoever--resposiblities to pay money, but no rights for your money.


In this respect, Turkey is more advanced in gender issues than England or Scotland.


(A bigger problem in Turkey and the west, is that of class equality. Like in the West, the rich seem to be able to do what they want--anything they want--the poor are emasculated.)


I am married to a Turkish woman, and I did not notice any sign of inequality in the extended families.


However, the one area would be that of sexual promiscuity. Boys are allowed to be as promiscuous as they like, or as they can afford--prostitues everywhere. But the pressure is on girls to save themselves for marriage. Many do, but many don´t.









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