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Duchess accused of smearing Turkey´s image
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10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 Nov 2008 Fri 02:08 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Tonight is a follow up programme

 

 Where?

11.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Nov 2008 Fri 02:09 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 Where?

 

 ITV 8:00pm in the UK

12.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 01:55 am

More follow ups about this topic.:

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/world/10308502.asp?scr=1

Turkish Foreign Minister  criticized the ITV television channel’s methods, saying the use of a hidden camera is a violation of the children´s rights, adding that the allegations are being investigated.

...

Some Turkish authorities have accused the duchess of attempting to smear the country’s reputation.

 

what can I say?

if they had put half of the efforts of ´covering the things up´ into ´correcting the things´ that country would be in much better shape..

And some are saying smearing the "country´s reputation".. phew!!!

I just want to bend those people´s ears until it hurts and force them watch that programme again and again while slapping on the face..

 

13.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 02:10 am

This is heartbreaking...{#lang_emotions_sad} 

14.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 02:20 am

 

Quoting teaschip

This is heartbreaking...{#lang_emotions_sad} 

 

This is more than heart breaking..it is annoying..it makes your blood boil..

I watched a similar programme many years ago about China/and its orphans..It was very upsetting but I could not accuse chinese gov for that, in the end, they are a country with 500$ GDP, the level of acceptible care for orphans requires some wealth..

But Turkey, is a much richer country!!

And and some people are still coming up with that ´national pride´ thing.!!!

That is annoying!!

 

15.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 02:49 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

This is more than heart breaking..it is annoying..it makes your blood boil..

I watched a similar programme many years ago about China/and its orphans..It was very upsetting but I could not accuse chinese gov for that, in the end, they are a country with 500$ GDP, the level of acceptible care for orphans requires some wealth..

But Turkey, is a much richer country!!

And and some people are still coming up with that ´national pride´ thing.!!!

That is annoying!!

 

 Do you think things will get better, since they televised this?  Will they make efforts to improve the care or will they just deny it?{#lang_emotions_unsure}  Does Turkey have childrens protective services?

16.       CANLI
5084 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 03:00 am

 

Quoting teaschip

 Do you think things will get better, since they televised this?  Will they make efforts to improve the care or will they just deny it?{#lang_emotions_unsure} 

 

 My opinion,things will get better for them,and they will receive more care on a high level too i may add.

17.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 05:26 pm

Watching this reminded of the documentary made a couple of years ago, about a family who walked on al fours, living somewhere in the South East of Turkey, close to the Syrian border.

 

What strikes me as so odd, the children in the orphanages, not necessarily orphans but more likely to have been abandonned by their parents because of their disability or handicap.  Yet the family whose children walked on all fours, were completely accepted by the villagers.

 

All 19 children (yes they had 19 children and if I remember correctly the husband and wife were related quite closely) initially walked on all fours, but eventually only 5 remained that way, basically because they could not balance themselves on two feet. 

 

The children and adolescents in the film last week, suffered anything from Aspergers Syndrome and autism to Downs and other more severe physical handicaps.

 

I doubt that the televisation of this will achieve very much until the attitudes of both the wider society and parents change.  All the authorities can do is improve the conditions and the staff training and care.

 

A question I do have, what sort of care system is in place for those parents who do care for their disabled or handicapped child?  This did not appear to be covered in the programme.

18.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 06:07 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

A question I do have, what sort of care system is in place for those parents who do care for their disabled or handicapped child?  This did not appear to be covered in the programme.

 

 I don´t think there is anything formal in place to assist families.  I think that some of these families do not have the means for caring for children with disabilities.  Perhaps they are entrusting their children to these agencies hoping that they will be better off.  This may be a surprise to the families as well, which only breaks my heart more.  I am not sure how Turkish people feel about disabled people in general, but I think that families are left on their own if they have a disabled child.  It´s just all very sad.   

19.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 06:51 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 I don´t think there is anything formal in place to assist families.  I think that some of these families do not have the means for caring for children with disabilities.  Perhaps they are entrusting their children to these agencies hoping that they will be better off.  This may be a surprise to the families as well, which only breaks my heart more.  I am not sure how Turkish people feel about disabled people in general, but I think that families are left on their own if they have a disabled child.  It´s just all very sad.   

 

I think you are probably right Elizabeth.

 

That was sort of broached in the film, the attitudes, but that is exactly my point in referring to the family whose children walked on all fours, and these were well into their adult life - they were accepted by the wider social group and not made outcast.

 

 

20.       lady in red
6947 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 10:33 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Watching this reminded of the documentary made a couple of years ago, about a family who walked on al fours, living somewhere in the South East of Turkey, close to the Syrian border.

 

What strikes me as so odd, the children in the orphanages, not necessarily orphans but more likely to have been abandonned by their parents because of their disability or handicap.  Yet the family whose children walked on all fours, were completely accepted by the villagers.

 

All 19 children (yes they had 19 children and if I remember correctly the husband and wife were related quite closely) initially walked on all fours, but eventually only 5 remained that way, basically because they could not balance themselves on two feet. 

 

 

I remember watching that - it was quite fascinating actually - it was big news when this family were ´discovered´.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4782492.stm

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