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Duchess accused of smearing Turkey´s image
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50.       CANLI
5084 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:45 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Sometimes the media is your only (and most powerful) weapon CANLI.  Think of Watergate. There are many faults with media, but it is also a very powerful tool to right wrongs.

 

Yes,i agree,totally agree

But in this case,the Duchess has another weapons too,many actually if she choose

So pls dont tell me her choice of using the media has nothing to do with political means.

Ýt has and that idea itself,is ugly !

51.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:48 am

 

Quoting CANLI

Quoting TheAenigma

Sometimes the media is your only (and most powerful) weapon CANLI.  Think of Watergate. There are many faults with media, but it is also a very powerful tool to right wrongs.

 

Yes,i agree,totally agree

But in this case,the Duchess has another weapons too,many actually if she choose

So pls dont tell me her choice of using the media has nothing to do with political means.

Ýt has and that idea itself,is ugly !

 

 I disagree, but refuse to argue all night

 

52.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:50 am

 

Quoting CANLI

Yes,i agree,totally agree

But in this case,the Duchess has another weapons too,many actually if she choose

So pls dont tell me her choice of using the media has nothing to do with political means.

Ýt has and that idea itself,is ugly !

 

Do you know for a fact that she did not try diplomatic means to begin with?  Whatever the case, there is NOTHING wrong with what she did!

53.       anka
207 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:51 am

Yes.. I am very much dealed with Why?? I ask myself, why do they projected on that in my country? What was the priority of it than anywhere in the world? Why not Africa? Why not Afghanistan? Why not China? Why not the homelesss people in the European Streets? Children suffering there muchmore than anywhere.... Why not the homelesss people in the European Streets Why my country? Yea my country...

I wish i could feel countryless like you... But i do feel. I have my country and i am a human, at the same time... Cannot i be? WHo can determine my priorities?

 

54.       CANLI
5084 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:52 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

You and Anka seem to be to caught up in the HOW instead of the WHY. 

Isn´t the IMPORTANT thing here that this situation has been brought out in the open?  What is the difference in HOW it was done?  

It seems you should get your priorities straight.

 

 Good question GG

For 2 reasons actually

1- Talking about the children,its ugly to use such horrible thing as another rob in a political game

Ýt is just UGLY

2- The reason of the HOW is boring and repetitive,is how to pick on Türkiye ´sry handsom but its true,and im sorry if you dont see that from where you are´ and make stress on the bad things

Those 2 reasons,for people like us ´Turks/Easterns´ who face almost same treatment,is really annoying.

Needless to say,that doesnt make the actual event ´how the children been treated´ less horrified

55.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:53 am

 

Quoting CANLI

Quoting TheAenigma

Sometimes the media is your only (and most powerful) weapon CANLI.  Think of Watergate. There are many faults with media, but it is also a very powerful tool to right wrongs.

 

Yes,i agree,totally agree

But in this case,the Duchess has another weapons too,many actually if she choose

So pls dont tell me her choice of using the media has nothing to do with political means.

Ýt has and that idea itself,is ugly !

Canli

Could you tell me what that idea is?

I mean in the same programme there were romanian childeren too..

Do you really think ´they are sitting there and planning -oh what can we do today against Turkey-´?

 

56.       CANLI
5084 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:54 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Canli

Could you tell me what that idea is?

I mean in the same programme there were romanian childeren too..

Do you really think ´they are sitting there and planning -oh what can we do today against Turkey-´?

 

 Ohhh No handsom

Not just Türkiye

57.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:55 am

 

Quoting anka

Yes.. I am very much dealed with Why?? I ask myself, why do they projected on that in my country? What was the priority of it than anywhere in the world? Why not Africa? Why not Afghanistan? Why not China? Why not the homelesss people in the European Streets? Children suffering there muchmore than anywhere.... Why not the homelesss people in the European Streets Why my country? Yea my country...

I wish i could feel countryless like you... But i do feel. I have my country and i am a human, at the same time... Cannot i be? WHo can determine my priorities?

 

 You determine your priorities and it is clear from your writings here that your priority is not the children in this story.  Your main concern is how it makes your country look.  All you seem to care about is that they didn´t pick on some other country! 

I guarantee you that exposes like this happen all the time and in many more countries than Turkey and with good reason!  Because countries like to hide their dirty little secrets. 

Sorry but this kind of blindness is just obscene. 

58.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 02:57 am

 

Quoting CANLI

 Good question GG

For 2 reasons actually

1- Talking about the children,its ugly to use such horrible thing as another rob in a political game

Ýt is just UGLY

 

 Canli I think you are totally missing the REAL ugliness and I find that completely disheartening. 

I´m going home now.

59.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 03:10 am

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/Yazar.aspx..an%20D%C3%BCndar&ver=12

Anka, a Can Dundar column in Turkish for you..

He explains it quite nicely how years anda years of reflexive thinking such as  ´ah what ever you do dont damage country or country´s reputation´ let these things continue..

These news should hurt only people who were mistreating those kids.. and it is good that ´at least´ those kids wont be treated the same again.

60.       anka
207 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 03:11 am

You d better not try to teach me how to be caring or humanist... You like to feel yourselves only the ones who care... Looking from just one aspect and ignoring my multi aspects...

Go on how you think in simple ways...

I cannot try to change your sights, and you can never change mines.

And i don´t care how you think about my priorities or senses.

I have mines, you have yours. And there are the realities... Nothing changes the things happening around and the intentions...

I just could do one thing. Invite you to avoid being "prejudice" hah! That is ironic you be prejudice towards me. Still behaving like to find a "scapegoat". And i am not it...

Türkiye is not it.

good night people of the God.

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