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50.       lesluv
722 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 01:02 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

I am sure Ireland will catch up with the democracy one day too!!

 

 nah the police didn´t need to ....they were too busy killing each other!!

51.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 01:39 am

 

Quoting catwoman

So those who agree with you are the objective ones? lol

 

 I think you misunderstood my comment.  I was merely saying that if a member of MY family was a policeman/woman I would also find it hard to be objective...

52.       lesluv
722 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 01:45 am

 

Quoting catwoman

I don´t understand why the police uses real bullets instead of simply knocking out people.. Wouldn´t it make more sense that way?

 

 I know in ireland they used rubber bullets but later changed to plastic ones (after a number of people died from injuries caused by the rubber ones)...the training also included that the knee or below should be the target...to maim rather than to kill

53.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 03:03 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

You do not exaggerate!!

Well as far as the democracy is concerned, we were almost at the same level in 1970s with Greece. We have almost identical culture.

That was my question in the first place:

What went wrong or what went missing or what they did but we did NOT?

 

you`re simply trying to prove your flawed point using rhetoric but it doesn`t work. if you say that greece is so democratic because you watched a mob going on there last night on tv, you`re just being funny. how many people join the may day demonstrations in greece? there are tens of greek orthodox churches just in istanbul, but there is not even one single turkish mosque in this "so democratic" country although there are thousands of Turks living there because it`s forbidden. is this what you call democracy?

 

I`m not saying Turkey is more democratic or not. I`m just saying that things are not so black and white like how your simple mind works.

54.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 03:50 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 there are tens of greek orthodox churches just in istanbul, but there is not even one single turkish mosque in this "so democratic" country although there are thousands of Turks living there because it`s forbidden. is this what you call democracy?

 

 Ouh you should visit the UK then Tam.  We are proud of our elaborate mosques.  We have more mosques than churches! lol

55.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 03:55 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Ouh you should visit the UK then Tam. We are proud of our elaborate mosques. We have more mosques than churches! lol

thanks but all those mosques they have in europe look like ghetto slums.{#lang_emotions_lol} filled with crappy people.

 

56.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 03:57 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

thanks but all those mosques they have in europe look like ghetto slums.{#lang_emotions_lol} filled with crappy people.

 

they are more muslims than any of the eastern country people man..

you dont know what you are talking about lol

57.       Trudy
7887 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 11:09 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

thanks but all those mosques they have in europe look like ghetto slums.{#lang_emotions_lol} filled with crappy people.

 

 Don´t tell that here... it was chosen as the most beautiful building of Rotterdam in 2006. (It´s about 1 km from my house).

 

58.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 12:33 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

you`re simply trying to prove your flawed point using rhetoric but it doesn`t work. if you say that greece is so democratic because you watched a mob going on there last night on tv, you`re just being funny. how many people join the may day demonstrations in greece? there are tens of greek orthodox churches just in istanbul, but there is not even one single turkish mosque in this "so democratic" country although there are thousands of Turks living there because it`s forbidden. is this what you call democracy?

 

I`m not saying Turkey is more democratic or not. I`m just saying that things are not so black and white like how your simple mind works.

 

I guess it is becoming a custom for add ´so´ infront of the words which considered to be embarresing for some of my country´s undoubtedly ´sophisticated´ people. lol

 

Are you sure about those ´none existent mosques´ or ´turkish mosques´ which are forbidded?

 

But however, you have a point there..

The point is, only some of my "genious" country men can go on a mission to defend the Turks all around the world and at the same time  look down at all its ethnic minorites in Turkey. You are a great example of that. lol

 

I remember reading some articles about compulsory classes given by the state for the students who are about to go to foreign countries for education..

They were trying to ´educate´ (not going to say brain washing here lol ) these clueless young minds about the Turkish thesis ranging from Armenian issue to Cyprus.

My guess is, you were sitting at the front bench, listening carefully as if your life depended on what the teacher was saying and lifting your hand with passion to ask questions to learn more and more.. 

Anyway, back to the topic: I think you should read a bit more about Greece and make parallel comparisons with Turkey especially starting from the time line of 1970´s to see what ´did NOT happen´ in Turkey and why. 

59.       femmeous
2642 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 04:58 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

you`re simply trying to prove your flawed point using rhetoric but it doesn`t work. if you say that greece is so democratic because you watched a mob going on there last night on tv, you`re just being funny. how many people join the may day demonstrations in greece? there are tens of greek orthodox churches just in istanbul, but there is not even one single turkish mosque in this "so democratic" country although there are thousands of Turks living there because it`s forbidden. is this what you call democracy?

 

I`m not saying Turkey is more democratic or not. I`m just saying that things are not so black and white like how your simple mind works.

 cut the crap down, and dont expose how your simple mind works displaying the average turkish mind.

now, those orthodox churches existed there before your ancestors galopped on horses from central asia. and remember your ancestors faught against arabs. as soon as the sword of allah chopped off enough turkish and greek heads you turned all the churches into mosques. because how could central asians or arabs from wild deserts would know how to build fabulous buildings without the knowledge heritage of persians, greeks, jews and romans?

 

and if there was no mosque in greece it simply means that greece was never first islamic then christian.

 

60.       femmeous
2642 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 04:59 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

thanks but all those mosques they have in europe look like ghetto slums.{#lang_emotions_lol} filled with crappy people.

 

 that s an interesting description lol

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