ok, it was wrong for her to think that way. But instead of criticizing and generalizing people, why not educate them about the issue?

It is not Islam that promotes terrorism. A lot of terrorists twist Islam into a religion that promotes killing as honorable, etc. I am aware of that. It is not the religion that is wrong, it is the inhumane people who distort it, and make some people believe that killing is an honorable action.

I doubt if you will ever find any religion that promotes hatred. But it is the people who promotes hatred, that uses religion (whether Islam or Christianity ) and twists it and use it to their own advantage.

Before you criticize Melek74 about her misunderstanding about Islam, why not try and criticize yourself for your limited knowledge of Christianity as well?

a few questions for you;

1)why are you desperately trying to change your initial argument that islam is the only religion that promotes violence?

2)to what level islam takes terrorism? something worse than the crusade terrorism?

I would have to say you are wrong here Melek74. It is not Islam that legitimizes violence. It is the inhumane people, who distort Islam, twist it´s religion and make it their own belief to legitimize violence. It is the same with Christianity. A lot of people have distorted Christianity as well, to use it to their advantage in order to have domination over other countries as well.

You say religion is the problem. I say it is the people who distort religion as the problem.

again tami, your understanding is wrong. The same with Melek74. She thinks Islam legitimizes violence, and she is wrong on that account. You say Christianity promotes violence, your example, the crusaders. You are also wrong on that account. Like i said, people twist religion, be it Islam or Christianity, they use it to their advantage.

Terrorists have used and twisted Islam to their advantage, to gain followers. It is the same with Crusaders who twisted Christianity to their advantage, to also gain followers.

The point is, it is not religion, or any religion that promotes violence. It is the people who distort it that uses it for their own selfish personal goals or motives.

However, because some people are unaware of what is going on, it is easy for them to point out religion as the culprit, of all the problems that is happening.

Sad to say that it is working. Because terrorist groups have distorted the Islamic belief and religion, it is easy for other people to blame Islam. And that also goes to you Tami. Since the Crusaders or other terrorists have distorted the Christian belief and religion, it is easy for you to point fingers at Christianity as well...

You may not get what im trying to point out Tami. But i hope others who are open minded would try to see what i´m trying to get across.

Unlike you, I`m openminded enough to see that any religion promotes violence, because a religion by definition is all about authority and the self interest of a group of people.

and unlike melekwhatever, I`m not an hypocrite to say that it`s only islam or christianity that legitimizes violence.

I´m not "desperate" about anything. I actually went and looked at my posts. Nowhere did I say that Islam is the only religion that promotes violence. What I am saying is the Islam makes killing and dying for religion something desirable for people who kill themselves and others.

I would thank god (if one existed) that not so many people actually do follow the "holy books" to the t.

I´ll agree to disagree with you here. It is the humane people that can pick the good parts out of the "holy books" and ignore that violent, despicable parts that may SOMETIMES give religion a good name. I´d invite you to read the Bible or the Q´uran sometimes from the perspective of what you´d have to do and believe if you were actually to follow the rules in the books. Then we can talk about twisting the religion.

denial, denial...

Yeah, you´re right, all religions legitmize violence. I´m shaking already thinking of the Bhuddist suicide bombers.

Anybody knows a good shrink?

thinking that any religion promotes violence is open mindedness? you are constantly contradicting yourself. You say that Islam has nothing to do to promote violence, and here you are telling that religion promotes violence.

and if you think that religion by definition si all about authority and the self-interest of a group of people, then your definition of religion is very limited and wrong.

definition of religion:

• A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny.
• An institution to express belief in a divine power.
• A belief concerning the supernatural, sacred, or divine, and the practices and institutions associated with such belief.

Religion in general is a belief of a higher-power. God, Allah, or Whoever.

If you are talking about authority that promotes self-interest, i would easily point out politics, or government. Not religion. Anyway, there is no point in speaking with you. Your knowledge and your understanding is very limited.