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Turkish PM storms off in Gaza row
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 12:09 am |
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I agree with you..
And also, I think, he is playing into internal politics as well. Because there will be local elections very soon..
I am sure Turkish foreign diplomats are tearing their hair off right now..
not good politics maybe but good viewing! At least we are talking about what is happening!
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 12:28 am |
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I agree with you..
And also, I think, he is playing into internal politics as well. Because there will be local elections very soon..
I am sure Turkish foreign diplomats are tearing their hair off right now..
yeah..No matter what he does, he will never be good for you eh? would you like it more if he just accepted the way Peres talked to him? i am proud that he did such a thing unlike other arse lickers. i love him tonight  vallahi billahi içimin yaðlarý eridi
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 12:42 am |
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yeah..No matter what he does, he will never be good for you eh? would you like it more if he just accepted the way Peres talked to him? i am proud that he did such a thing unlike other arse lickers. i love him tonight vallahi billahi içimin yaðlarý eridi
I dont know the details really..
But I just saw in the news that Perez called him and apologized..
And also I saw that Erdogan was saying ´He, Perez, should have realized, he was not speaking to a chief of a tribe, he was speaking to the prime minister of Turkey´.
As far as democratisation of Turkey is concerned and also when you compare him and his goverments with the others, clearly he is one of the best prime ministers in decades in Turkey..
I felt really proud when they rejected USA demand for using Turkey´s soil to attack Iraq for example.. Economic growt, passing laws about freedoms, making 301 in effective, supporting the prosecuters about ergenekon case etc..
They are all applausable.
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 12:49 am |
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I am glad he spoke out against Israel´s execution of over a thousand Gazans. It is about time somebody started calling a spade a spade with respect to Zionism.
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 12:59 am |
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some people lose brain in their late years)
Some people no matter what aged there are have never had a brain to lose
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 01:34 am |
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Ahmed Yousef: Crimes against humanity committed in Palestine
The following is a Press TV interview with the Political Advisor to Ismail Haniyah, Ahmed Yousef.
Press TV: Israel has finally admitted using white phosphorous in Gaza. Will you take this to international courts?
Ahmed Yousef: Of course, there are a lot people NGOs and also some states who will absolutely sue Israeli generals and the Israeli leadership, Olmert, Tzipi [Livni] and Barak; they will take them to courts, the international court of justice of course; this is crimes against humanity committed in Palestine, thousands, hundreds of women and children were killed and thousands were injured. The Israelis used phosphoric weapons ... The Israelis are committing all kind of crimes and everybody is talking about taking them to international court of justice.
Press TV: Israel refused to lift the siege of Gaza; what will Hamas do if Israel continues to do so?
Ahmed Yousef: Israel will continue the siege and it has not actually opened the gates. Yes we will have to defend ourselves because sanctions and siege is declaration of war and we have the right to defend ourselves. Resistance will continue and people will do everything, they will make everything necessary to lift the sanctions and end the siege. I hope the world community, after what happened in Gaza, understand that the Palestinians are not going to surrender; they are either victorious or they will die for a good cause.
Press TV: So will Hamas hold talks with the Israeli side over the issue?
Ahmed Yousef: The issue is not going to be between Hamas and Israel. It is going to be a third party mediating any kind of negotiations with the Israelis. they are now in Cairo discussing a ceasefire ... the Israelis will accept to end all their aggression and end the siege of Gaza. This is actually the condition for the continuation of any ceasefire.
Press TV: So how much longer do you expect the ceasefire to last?
Ahmed Yousef: Actually today, there is a meeting between the Hamas delegation and Omar Suleiman from the Egyptian government and we will hear from them what the position of Israel exactly is. They are not going to abide by all agreements and we need not expand it (ceasefire), to have more commitments regarding how to rebuild Gaza. I don´t know for how long the ceasefire could be held. But today I am sure and tomorrow we will hear from the delegation exactly what decision is going to be taken regarding the ceasefire and regarding what kind of the agreement we will have with the Israelis through the Egyptians.
Press TV: What does Hamas expect from the new US administration?
Ahmed Yousef: We expect from the American administration to be more fair and objective and to have an evenhanded policy and put pressure on Israel and help Palestinians to have their own independent and free state. This is what we hope Mr. Obama would adopt as part of its policy and to change the foreign policy I mean to prove that the Israelis see some change and the US change its policy from being biased and taking sides with Israel to being impartial and objective.
Press TV: Why did Egypt keep the Rafah crossing closed during the Israeli war?
Ahmed Yousef: That is what we wonder about and everybody in all Arab Muslim countries wonder why the Egyptian insisted to keep Gaza´s Rafah crossing closed while it was something Egypt supposed to control that crossing. Israel should have no authority in anyway to be in the Rafah crossing. That is something between Egypt and Gaza and the sole authority should be for the Palestinians and Egyptians. I wonder why the Egyptians insisted on keeping the border, that why and making obstacles for the people who rushed to help Palestinians, doctors, parliamentarian and journalists I wonder why this thing happened.
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 05:05 am |
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Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has stormed off the stage at the World Economic Forum in Davos after an argument with Israel´s president.
Mr Erdogan clashed with Shimon Peres in a discussion on the recent fighting in the Gaza Strip, telling him: "You are killing people."
Mr Peres said Mr Erdogan would have done the same had rockets hit Istanbul.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/davos/7859417.stm
Wow!!
It seems a strange thing for Peres to say because a bomb of the same kind of size as the Hamas rockets did go off in Istanbul within the last year.
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 05:23 am |
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Perez is no spring chicken, he now knows that something has changed.
He has already apologized.
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 06:06 am |
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| Erdogan hailed after Davos walkout |
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| Erdogan, right, was angered by the moderator not giving him a chance to counter Peres´ argument [AFP] |
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Turkey´s prime minister has returned home from the World Economic Forum in Davos to a warm welcome after he stormed out of a debate over Israel´s war on the Gaza Strip.
More than 5,000 people, many waving Palestinian and Turkish flags, greeted Recep Tayyip Erdogan after his aeroplane touched down early on Friday.
Erdogan walked out of a televised debate on Thursday with Shimon Peres, the Israeli president, after the moderator refused to allow him to rebut Peres´ justification about the war.
Before storming out, Erdogan told Shimon Peres, the Israeli president: "You are killing people."
At least 1,300 Palestinians were killed during Israel´s 22-day aerial, naval and ground assault on Gaza. Thirteen Israeli citizens died over the same period.
´No return´
During the heated panel discussion in the Swiss town, Peres told Erdogan that Turkey would have acted in the same manner as Israel if rockets had been falling on Istanbul.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/01/20091303153967187.html
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 07:19 am |
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do not make a big deal about it. Erdogan was angry at the moderator. the moderator would not let him talk. the modertor stopped him then held his arm. he then let him have one minute then moderator said ok u have one minute, erdogan did not care, he tried to finish his reply to israeli president, and the moderator cut him short again. he got up upset with the moderator. later the israeli president called erdogan and apologize and told him, sorry he did not mean to talk like that to the turkish PM, he wasnt talking about him.
the moderator being american wanted the israeli president to have the last word.
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30 Jan 2009 Fri 08:54 am |
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Exactly, it is about politics and the ´issue´ is entirely politics. In the cold war Soviet Strategistics talked about the "correlation of forces" which meant waging war by political means such as this.
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