Initially, I was not going to reply to your post, but I couldn´t help it. Combined with your ignorance, arrogance & your inability to write coherently in English, half the things you have posted on this thread have been beside the point, and aimed at annoying other posters.
Let me go sentence by sentence in your post, and reply to each.
no need to comment on above.
1. "i hardly think it was a cockfight although it looked so when erdogan spoke. i think it was a show off to a wider mass." I am assuming you have never seen two cocks (roosters), and hence cannot tell when a cockfight is taking place even if you were sitting in the middle of a hen. Davos has always and will always be a "show off" to a wider mass. That is the very nature of the summit.
with this one let me play a little. any televised debate is supposed to be a show. and erdogan gave a good show. you seem to be a pretty good cock yourself.
2. "the last sentence wasnt very successful - if i produce jelly beans it doesnt mean im gonna turn the world into jellies." And your English isn´t very successful either. Neither is your sense of humour.
Israel has built an economy that directly benefits from and expands on escalating violence.
how do you prove this? does it support bin laden or other terror groups?
Years before the US & European companies figured out the coming boom and the huge potential of the so-called global security boom, the Israeli security firms were already developing the models for today´s "homeland security industry".There are over 400 corporations in Israel that are dedicated to selling "homeland security products" to clients ranging from "civilized countries"
well, very good of them, well done. if i could afford i would a security product.
cynicmystic, why dont you produce such technology? are you not genius enough?
to outright dictatorships that use such products to oppress their people.
for instance?
Turkey is also one of the clients by the way.
we know.
The last time there was a credible prospect of peace in the Mid East was in the early 90s. Communism had collapsed, the information technology boom was beginning, and among the Isreali businessmen,
a little correction: communism didnt collapse, the soviet union had collapsed (thank God) and the rest of communist countries are still "erect".
there was a widespread conviction that Israel´s bloody occupation of Gaza
that resulted after six-days war. israelis didnt force arabs to start a war.
was putting Israel´s economic future in jeopardy (any conflict has its consequences)
by antagonizing the Arab States to boycott. (its not difficult to make arabs boycott, a little spark is enough, so comparable to fire) In 1993, Dan Gillerman, who was then the president of the Israeli Chamber of Commerce, supported this view by stating that Israel could become the logistic, strategic and marketing center of the whole region like a Middle Eastern version of Hong Kong or Singapore. (Gillerman has played a prominent role in helping steer Israel towards economic liberalization and a free market economy. He is actively engaged in the economic aspects of the peace process and has engaged Palestinian and other Arab leaders in an attempt to further economic cooperation within the region.) a fool who believed that it was possible to cooperate with arabs.
Despite all the handshakes and the intentions for peace, Israel retreated into unilateralism. there were many handshakes. handshakes involve two parts. and you dont see the fake peace handshakes from arabs? a good joke.
One factor was the influx of Soviet Jews, and the other was the conversion of Israel´s export economy from one based on traditional manudfactured goods and high-technology to another that depended exclusively on selling intangible expertise and technologies designed for counter-terrorism. a very well done! and all nations are jealous.
As a result of the Russian influx, the Israel no longer had to rely on cheap Palestinian labor,
i dont see why would it be the responsibility of israel to create job places for them?
and the process of cordoning and walling the Palestinians increased. i too first condemned the walls, but later on i could understood israelis, it was no safe anymore.
The Israeli businessmen, on the other hand, smelled the stench of the money that could be made through a rapid expansion of the high-tech "security" industry, and realized that a continual "War on Terror" would make a lot more dollars than peace.
and of course, israelis created terrorism in the name of allah and then sold their high-tech. yeah.
On March 30, 1993, Israel implemented its ´closure policy´ by sealing off the border between Israel and the occupied territories so that the Palestinians couldn´t get to their jobs or sell their products like they could before.
israel wouldnt occupy any territory if arabs didnt invite them by starting wars. where did palestinians work? in israel? why?
what products did palestinians have?
Between 1993 & 2000, the number of Israelis living in the occupied territories tripled in numbers.
do you have a problem with that? whats wrong with that? everyone brings this issue into a discussion. the demogrpahy in muslim countries increases ten times more. in gaza alone from a few thousands it reached more than a half million now.
When it turned out that Israel´s key to success in the global economy would be through the niche markets of selling information technologies, it became clear that wiring software or computer chips would be more viable than shipping tangible cargoes to Beirut or Damascus. Additionally, this situation also meant that Israel did not really have to have friendly or peaceful relations with its Arab neighbours, or end its occupation of their territories. At that time, Israel was actually the most high-tech dependent economy in the world and was hit the hardest by the dot-com crash. As a result, the Israeli government increased military spending by 15 percent and cut back on social services. The tech industry, on the other hand, switched from information & communication technologies to "security & surveillance". Israel´s defense exports reached $3.4 billion in 2006 making Israel the fourth largest "arms-dealer" in the world.Israel has the largest number of security related technology stocks listed on Nasdaq than any other country, and its patents registered in the US outnumber those registered by India & China combined. Just to make you eat your words - its security based tech sector constitute over 60 percent of Israel´s exports. Len Rosen, an investment banker from Israel, told the Fortune magazine that it is security that matters, more than peace. (i agree with this, because peace cannot be reached with arabs, they tried and it doesnt work) The War on Terror actually saved Israel´s troubled economy. it is a half true statement, israel doesnt only trade arms but also many other products, in fact all disney cartoons are partly made in israel. despite all wars and world wide condemnations it gets on well thanks to its hard work and intelligence unlike oil rich lazy middle eastern countries, who can and should invest into education but prefer wars and sensations.
So, I guess, my last sentence was not that "unsuccessful´.
your post was interesting and half unsuccessful.
Just to rub your face a bit further into the ground, here is a brief list of how deep Israel´s security sector goes:
- When you dial 911 for the New York Police Department, your call is recorded & analyzed by Nice Systems - an Israeli firm.
praise be to genius nation!
- Images recorded in the London underground are captured by verint video surveillance cameras, which are owned by the Israeli technology giant Comverse. The same systems are also used at the US Dept of Defense, Dulles Int Airport, the Capitol Hill and the subway in Montreal.
praise be to genius nation!
- Supercom, an Israeli company that pioneered the idea of "biometric passports and ID cards" provides the "smartcard IDs"carried by the employees of the cities of Los Anegeles and Columbus, Ohio.
praise be to genius nation!
- Check Point, another Israeli firm, is the provider of the firewalls in the networks of some of the largest corporations in the world. 90 percent of Fortune 500 companies use Check Point security systems.
praise be to genius nation!
- Buckhingham Palace chose Magal, a company that has been highly involved in rather dirty business practices (anything to prove this?), to design its new security system.
praise be to genius nation!
Let me repeat my statement - Israel has an economic interest in escalating violence and perpetuating a continual War on Terror, not only within its region but in other parts of the world as well. That is the reason why the Tel Aviv Stock Market went up in August 2006, which was the month of a devastating war with Lebanon.
no hezbaollah - no war! no jihad - no war. as simple as that. israels economy grows no matter what. if their millitary stock fails, they will invest into farming, if that fails they will invest in entertainment. they will do anything in order to survive.
As I feel that I have pretty much shoved your ignorant reply down your throat by these rather well-documented examples, I won´t bother with the last paragraph of your post, where you make half-assed remarks with bougs numbers and statistics without clarifying what you are referring to. I have no doubt that you will grant us the privilage of writing another gibberish reply to my post, and if I have the time, I will certainly knock more sense into that thick head of yours. Go learn your facts & history now... instead of barking at anyone who criticizes Israel.
did you learn all this from your cockfight business experience? nice!
