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10.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 09:19 pm

Me and people like me who grew up with the rhetoric etc...?

 

As usual, you are talking straight out of your ass my angry friend.

 

You don´t know a thing about me, where I grew up, or how I was raised under what rhetorics.

 

There is no personal attack here. Just my personal sentiments about what an authentic clown you are.

 

Now go on. Rant a little more. Amuse us further.

 

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

 

 

So you have decided (again ) to stage a personal attack, rather than talking about the subjects I post..Eh?

 

First of all, I am not worried a tiny bit about my Turkishness..

 

Well you and people like you who grew up with the rhetorics such as ´One Turk equals to the world´ and believed in it by heart, would have different understanding of Turkishness than I do and that does not surprise me at all..

 

And about people and their Turkishness..

Well..What can I say..

Lets put it this way:

People kill Hrant Dink, they claim they are ´real Turks´ 

People kill Ugur Mumcu, they claim they are ´real Turks´ 

People take kurds from their homes and put a bullet into their necks, they claim they are ´real Turks´..

People take kids to the courts they claim they are ´real Turks´

 

 

 

 

 

11.       Trudy
7887 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 09:21 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Amuse us further.

 

 

 He does. You don´t.

12.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 09:26 pm

 What makes you think I am trying to amuse?

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 He does. You don´t.

 

 

13.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 09:41 pm

I wonder, is it just Turkish men that have a preoccupation with Turkishness? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

14.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 09:45 pm

I think it is more the foreigners who seem to have a preoccupation with Turkishness.

 

The word Turkishness is not really part of my vocab as a Turk. I don´t know about other Turks though. As far as I am concerned, Turkishness is a bogus mosnomer which doesn´t mean jack...

 

Does Americanness or Britness mean anything?

 

Should people be taken to courth for being un-Turkish or not fulfilling their share of this so-called Turkishness?

 

I think not.

Quoting peacetrain

I wonder, is it just Turkish men that have a preoccupation with Turkishness? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 

15.       Trudy
7887 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 09:52 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

 What makes you think I am trying to amuse?

 

 

 

 Nothing, especially not your lecturing posts.....

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 09:55 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

I wonder, is it just Turkish men that have a preoccupation with Turkishness? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

Well it seems like, they are obsessed with my Turkishness here. lol

It has always been a common thing  between Turks to accuse others being less Turk..

Specially the ones, I mentioned in an earlier post.. I mean racists, fascists..

 

17.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 10:01 pm

Feel free not to read them.

 

Whether lecturing or not, there is at least some content to my posts. Regarding those other posts made by certain individuals on a regular basis, where there is a lack  of content, but a multitude of venom-spewing, I surely do lecture whether anyone likes it or not.

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Nothing, especially not your lecturing posts.....

 

 

18.       Trudy
7887 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 10:08 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Feel free not to read them.

 

Whether lecturing or not, there is at least some content to my posts. Regarding those other posts made by certain individuals on a regular basis, where there is a lack  of content, but a multitude of venom-spewing, I surely do lecture whether anyone likes it or not.

 

 

 

 

 If I say what else has content too, I get warned for insulting but I´m sure your imagination is good enough to think of some yourself.

19.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 10:12 pm

I actually don´t understand what you mean by this.

 

What I am saying is that I don´t particularly care whether you find my tone arrogant or lecturing. If you care to read my past posts and replies to others, you would notice that I do put the effort to provide content and the evidence to support my arguments.

 

From time to time, I do take excursions into crudity like anyone else on this forum. what´s your point?

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 If I say what else has content too, I get warned for insulting but I´m sure your imagination is good enough to think of some yourself.

 

 

20.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 19 Feb 2009 Thu 10:12 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

I think it is more the foreigners who seem to have a preoccupation with Turkishness.

 

The word Turkishness is not really part of my vocab as a Turk. I don´t know about other Turks though. As far as I am concerned, Turkishness is a bogus mosnomer which doesn´t mean jack...

 

Does Americanness or Britness mean anything?

 

Should people be taken to courth for being un-Turkish or not fulfilling their share of this so-called Turkishness?

 

I think not.

 

 

 

 I was thinking more regarding the discussions here on TC and men as opposed to women.

 

As for being taken to court, how can anyone measure Turkishness?  I would say it can´t be measured, in which case taking someone to court would seem inappropriate. 

 

I presume the court cases result because of breach of article 301.  From what I read, it was introduced in 2005.  Was there anything in place before then? 

 

I can´t see how breaching article 301 makes a Turk  "un-Turkish", there are so many facets to a person´s culture and national identity. 

 

Hmm. . . I wonder what would happen if 301 was repealed . . .

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