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10.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 09:38 pm

 

Quoting Ameise

How similar is turkish to arabic? do they share any words?

i´d like to learn both and i´m just curious to know... 

tsk Big smile

 

 Many words in common, about 6000 arabic word in the Turkish vocabulary

Also many grammar concepts and rules in common, if you know Arabic it would be more easier for you to learn Turkish, and i assume its the same other way around as its same in Arabic too, many Turkish words and same for grammar.

There are some differences ´specially sentence order´ but when you understand  the concept, i guess/believe you can take a good grip of the language if you give it the enough time .

 

11.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 10:06 pm

 

Quoting Iceheart_Omnis

Hmm... an Iraqi-Arabic speaking human.

 

I wonder how is it for Turks to understand Iraqi non-humans like cats, dogs or terrorists

 

 Ã wonder what do you mean by Ýraqi terrorists when she was talking about Ýraqis ?!



Edited (8/23/2009) by CANLI

12.       Sekerleme
159 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:18 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Ã wonder what do you mean by Ýraqi terrorists when she was talking about Ýraqis ?!

 

 exactlyCool

13.       Meera
4 posts
 07 Sep 2009 Mon 05:06 am

I´ve studied Arabic for many years and there are many loanwords. But I speak Farsi and think that Turkish has many more loanwords with Turkish! For example thank you in Farsi is tashakur تشکر
like Turkish is teþekkür.

14.       eakkus
1 posts
 10 Apr 2010 Sat 06:33 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Many words in common, about 6000 arabic word in the Turkish vocabulary

Also many grammar concepts and rules in common, if you know Arabic it would be more easier for you to learn Turkish, and i assume its the same other way around as its same in Arabic too, many Turkish words and same for grammar.

There are some differences ´specially sentence order´ but when you understand  the concept, i guess/believe you can take a good grip of the language if you give it the enough time .

 

I agree in that if you understand the concepts of Arabic and/or Turkish you will be able to learn either language but I disagree with how knowing one or the other will help.  Arabic and Turkish roots are far different from each other.  Although some scholars may agree or disagree, Arabic´s roots may have branched from indo-european set of languages and therefore understanding and/or knowing a "indo" or european language will help a student learn Arabic more easily.  Turkish on the other hand is farther from the indo-european languages and more closely related to the far eastern languages.  Although Turkish uses many Arabic and Latin-based words, sentence structure and almost all verbs remain loyal to the original turkic roots.  The Turkish of Turkey is the way it is because of its most recent modernization.  Uzbek, Turkmen, Kazakh, Mogul, etc, are also Turkic languages as Italian, French, Spanish, etc are Latin languages.  At the end Arabic and Turkish are by far very different languages.  If you want to get a better handle of the Turkish language, learn chinese, korean, or some language like that.

 

15.       hedef
363 posts
 10 Apr 2010 Sat 11:40 pm

 

Quoting eakkus

 

I agree in that if you understand the concepts of Arabic and/or Turkish you will be able to learn either language but I disagree with how knowing one or the other will help.  Arabic and Turkish roots are far different from each other.  Although some scholars may agree or disagree, Arabic´s roots may have branched from indo-european set of languages and therefore understanding and/or knowing a "indo" or european language will help a student learn Arabic more easily.  Turkish on the other hand is farther from the indo-european languages and more closely related to the far eastern languages.  Although Turkish uses many Arabic and Latin-based words, sentence structure and almost all verbs remain loyal to the original turkic roots.  The Turkish of Turkey is the way it is because of its most recent modernization.  Uzbek, Turkmen, Kazakh, Mogul, etc, are also Turkic languages as Italian, French, Spanish, etc are Latin languages.  At the end Arabic and Turkish are by far very different languages.  If you want to get a better handle of the Turkish language, learn chinese, korean, or some language like that.

 

 sorry eakkus. I can´t disagree more with what you had refered to. How in the world would I (an arabic speaking individual) would get better in learning Turkish by learning chinese????

On the other hand I totaly agree with what CANLI was talking about. I alway refer to my arabic when I want to learn some turkish vocabulay.

Although the grammer is different and sentences are built the other way round i.e. verb in Turkish is in the end while its in the begining in Arabic sentences. But as soon you understand the concept, it becomes very easy to master. 

 

 

16.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 11 Apr 2010 Sun 03:24 am

hungarian, finnish, japanese, korean and sanskrit is a little similar to turkish.

arabic, persian, english, french, german isn´t similar to turkish.

similarity above is not came from shared words but comes from being a suffix language and order of the words in a sentence.

 

there are about 14 thousands loanwords in turkish.

6500 arabic

5250 french

1400 persian

500 english

400 greek

 

there is never ever any connection between turkish and chinese.

 

17.       Henry
2604 posts
 11 Apr 2010 Sun 03:36 am

 

Quoting ikicihan

there is never ever any connection between turkish and chinese.

 

 

I thought there was a connection between the Uyghur (Uighur) people of western China because they also descended from Turkic tribes. Obviously Han Chinese are unrelated.

See the language similarities between Turkish and Uyghur here.



Edited (4/11/2010) by Henry [added link]

18.       witchie
13 posts
 11 Apr 2010 Sun 04:24 am

Very similar which makes it so easy to learn.

Its just that the sentence pattern is way different but you get the hang of it in no time, specially if you´re an Arab from the Persian gulf region, because of the Persian influence in there, people are pretty familiar with the Turkish sentence pattern ´cause its just like the Iranian sentence pattern.

And I agree about the Iraqi-Arabic part. Im half Iraqi and Iraqi Arabic share more words with Turkish. for an Example, in Iraq they say "yawash", "yawash yawash" and its like the only Arabic country who  says yawash others tend to say "shway shway" lol.

 

Ps-Im not making this up, ´cause Im an Arab .

19.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 11 Apr 2010 Sun 05:41 am

uygurs arent chinese. yes they are in china now. their etnicity, culture, religion, language, even writing script are different from chinese.

20.       speed
1 posts
 11 Apr 2010 Sun 10:12 am

{#emotions_dlg.flowers}I want to meet an open minded educated Islamic girl from Turkey, reason is we as human are all from one great great human being that is Adam(pbuh) as the saying from goes from the Creator "you are all from Adam and Adam is from dust" we have adopted a narrow divided and closed circulation thereby limiting ourselves of this vast asset, brotherhood, friendship, humanitarianism, sharing our resources etc.

If only we have a broad spectrum, keep our choices to benefit all then we have acknowledged our true status as beings of fruits of "Adam&Eve" then divided into many part with time.

Islam always reminds us our true selves the benefits of unity and sharing resources in another saying "We have created you of both male and female, groups and tribes in order you know each other" this quote also encourages the same because after all we are all from the same parentage.

What happened is simple, Islam show us how to succeed in this world and next while the other encourages only the visible and the immediate and don´t consider sharing thereby damaging the natural process of a true and peaceful environment.

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