Do herhalde and her halde have the same meaning?  I have seen both written and from the sentence structure alone I can not identify a difference in meaning. If they are different could somebody give a few sentence examples please Thanks

yes

they mean the same thing herhalde is correct

Ok that means both my exercise book and friends of mine are wrong as they say there is a slight difference. I was told that there is a difference between these two words;
HER HALDE means; exactly,absolutely while HERHALDE means ; perhaps,maybe

ohhhh this is so confusing  

no Katie. Trust me there is no difference

hal = situation, case, state (we borrowed this word in Arabic)

her iki halde de = in either case

her halde is extremely rare

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 Ok then I trust you thank you Just wish all Turkish people would tell me the same thing . No wonder I get confused.

in informal spoken Turkish , the second h is almost never pronounced.

so it sounds like heralde

example: Ali beni neden hálá aramadý ? (=why hasnt Ali still called me?)

Katie: Heralde baþka bir kýz arkadaþ buldu (=he probably has found another gf/he must have got another gf)

Good question =

-   Herhalde  -  Belki  –  Muhtemelen : PERHAPS

-   Her   halde  –   Mutlaka :  BY ALL  MEANS,  SURELY,  UNDOUBTEDLY

(They have not the same meaning according to Turkish Grammar)

 I beg to differ. There is a difference.

Herhalde = probably

Her halde = in any case, whatever the situation is

Eventhough the last one is barely ever used (and the first one used a lot), there is a grammatical difference between the two. But I suggest that someone who is new at learning the language totally forgets about the second and just learns that ´herhalde´ means ´probably´

herhalde = perhaps, may be, possibly, most probably

her halde = in every case

Eventhough there is a grammatical difference between ´herhalde´ and ´her halde´, you can assume that when you see it written (in an informal place), they all wanted to say ´herhalde=probably´, because many people dont know whether to write them apart or together.

If I were you Id forget about the difference and all understand them as ´probably´, because that is how it is used 99.9% of the time

Your friends are close enough...

Ohhh , I didn´t see all this before,

 Ok thanks to everyone who made it clear. I see that yes there is in fact a difference as I had thought, but it is not used often and basically I should not even bother with it and just accept herhalde    Cheers Yilgun, deli- kizin and Alphaf I  appreciate it .

 Excellent summary

I am not an expert yet but student in uni studying Turkish language and really surprised to see an expert give such an information. 

There must be difference between them.

Yes, hâl (not hal) is originally Arabic. (btw I don´t understand why you needed to mention it´s a loanword) 

Her is Turkish? Do you think it is originally Turkish?

Yes, herhâlde means probably.

But her hâlde never means probably.

You can find it in her hâlükârda (her hâlde + kârda) 

What does her hâlükârda  mean? probably or exactly?

her halde and herhalde is different but because you can not differenciate in the spoken language, people use her halükarda for her halde to mean that.  But Deli kýzýn is right too, as some people don´t know if it is written together or separate.. so you have to look at the context to understand what is meant.

The management of ETT (Expert Turkish Tutors) wishes to offer a public apology over this unfortunate incident.

Will Turkish Teacher be reducing his tuition charges now??  

herhalde = her halde = heralde(this is the most common one in spoken Turkish

1) People do not care about the spelling of this word. her halde or herhalde both are acceptable.

This word usually means probably

Heralde randevuyu unuttu = he must have forgotten about the appointment(logical conclusion)

sometimes it means exactly:

Example: Ben partiye gelmek zorunda mýyým? (Do I have to come/go to the party?)

HERALDE geleceksin . (=OF COURSE you do)

about reducing the charge:

Lady in Red: Heralde þaka yaptýn

My advice: never take lessons from a Turkish teacher who thinks it is totally acceptable to write ´heralde´ when teaching. 

He will be paying for any chance of tutoring he may get.

There is no such animal as a HERALDE in Turkish language.

Ýþ budur, bundan baþkasý hiçtir !

Come on!

Are you one of those people who says ´sende partiye gelmek istermisin´.

Hayýr, ben Türk Dil Kurumunun önerdiði gibi Ýnternet yerine Genel Að, itiraf etmek yerine açýnmak sözcüklerini kullanan birisiyim

Sen yine tartismaya yanlis yaklasiyorsun...

Tabiki "herhalde" ve "her halde" laflarinin her ikisi de ayri ayri dogru. Ancak bu iki sozden herhangi birisi digerinin yanlis veya farkli yazilmis sekli degil....IKI SOZUN ANLAMI FARKLI, BIRBIRLERININ ALTERNATIFLERI DEGILLER.

Ayip oluyor, valla !

Expert Bacanak

yazýlýþ þekli de korkunç önemli deðil . Ýngilizce öðrenmeye çalýþýrken sýnýfta bir muhabbet geçmiþti

I didn´t use to mu I didn´t useD to mu diye

sonra baktým bana göre deðil bu muhabbet. Boþ iþlerle uðraþmamak lazým. Dünyadaki herkes Oksford Keymbric mezunu deðil . Tömer´in kitaplarýnda abuk sabuk bir çok sözcük ve cümle var.

Bir de anlamakta güçlük çektiðimiz husus þu: Bu dil kitaplarýný yazan adamlar kim ? Háþá Peygamber mi Evliyá mý ? Onlar da hata yapamaz mý? Ben Longman´in, Oxford´un, Cambridge´in sözlüklerindeki örneklere bile hatalý diyen bir çok Amerikalý ve Ýngilizle tanýþtým.

Ben Türkçe öðretirken öðrencilerime burdanýn günlük konuþmada burada kelimesinden daha yaygýn olduðunu söylerim. Bázen veriiym mi demek vereyim mi demekten daha doðaldýr.

 sorry to interfere but:

saying veriyim mi and writing veriyim mi is different.. you can or may be you must say veriyim mi for a correct pronounciation, but you can´t write veriyim mi... that´s why a lot of people come up with translation requests, because they can´t find the word in the dictionary.. Oky, nobody is a prophet but it doesn´t mean we encourage Turkish learners, native or foreigner, to write incorrectly.

Thank you very much