Poor Tami got a good licking again Why can´t he understand that people in the west do not hate Muslims? I am more than delighted to have had a really good care in hospital. Why would I care if my obstetrician was Muslim or not? I was there to have a C section, not to marry him (or her for that matter ).

It´s harder and harder for Tami to cling to his conspiracy theories as they fall crumbling dow to the ground

PS I didn´t need to change the subject, Tami I referred to it in the first part of my post and in the second one I just had a laugh at you

I have just had a good tidy up in this thread, deleting any references to racism and east hating west and likewise to try and bring it back to the original request. 

I apologise to anyone whose sensible post has been deleted where it quoted one of the posts that warranted deletion.

Was Martin Luther a Christian of the West?

What did he think of Moslems in general, and Turks in particular?

http://www.lutherdansk.dk/On%20war%20against%20Islamic%20reign%20of%20terror/On%20war%20against%20Islamic%20reign%20of%20terror1.htm

PS; This is a subject previously mentioned in this class. Just in case daydreamer has missed the first edition, Copy&Paste the link, if interested.

  You are telling me all the muslims doctors i work with are here illegally? When they send them all back home then the hospital will have very few doctors

 NO, it proves that muslims doctors get better payed and given more oppertunity to carry on learning than in their own countries

I don´t think you find an explanation in the fact that he lived in the times when Ottomans had their "friendly" forays of Europe trying too expand their empire? Quite difficult to blame him seeing Europe being attacked by Ottoman hoards and young boys being forced to join janissaries...but, once Dabrowskis stopped the Ottomans, the relations improved

On a personal note, Dear Alpha, could you possibly if it´s not too much trouble provide your links as hypertext? It would save a lot of copy&pasting if you did. Clicking on hypertext is faster

Dear daydreamer,

Would you care to point out to me one contemporary treatise, by a thinker of comperable christian eminence, which explains Moslems are very "friendly" and that Turks are the best of the whole lot?

a mistake

 I can only agree with you Birdy.  I think the problem is that western mods don´t always actually notice when they are doing exactly the same as Tami, but towards muslims.  Ahh well - another deletion for Tami, and yet more anti-muslim posts are ignored and found acceptable!

 Where is the war between christians and muslims ? 

Reyhan - your comment has no relevance to Aenigma´s whatsoever.  No problem in going off-topic but as someone commented to the late departed Tami - does every post have to turn into a christian v muslim ´debate´?