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ETT

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ETT

Good job; my thoughts about clearing Turkish off foreign words have strengthened.

By the way; köşe vuruşu for "korner" is not new. It is already used ...

thx

turkishcobra //

 with msn adress please

Yes , you are right.

kampüs > yerleşke

Exactly, Yerleşke is very famous nowadays ... Even universities are changing their signs

angarya > yüklenti

TT, write English meanings of these words please ... ReyhanL has been asking meanings for ages !!! She´s been wrestling with messages to learn their meanings ...

Trust me i dont know how to say "angarya" in English

ETT

 No problem..i can ask for translation. He doesnt want others to understand

Only one who does not understand is not you, RL, a major part of site population is learner of Turkish, that´s why I said.

I usually use this website

www.tureng.com

I believe that its a good dictionary

It is my favourite, too. I always use it.

I feel like open myself an new account "super_expert_tutor_teacher" and make fun of others who want to learn

jogging / coging > doğa yürüyüşü (yapmak)

ETT

 No problem canım...i will keep posting t-e request..dont bother yourself for translating Expert aabi

 AHHH Reyhan please don´t the site can not cope with any more ego at the minute  

 I agree with you though there is no point writting things if the learners can not understand, however helpful people think they are.

p.s why is everybody suddenly signing off at the end of posts we know who posts already

Can you stop this discussion please? I´m so bored of this discussion...

Because some are more than teachers or tutors...they are also experts 

 Modest I see

 Yes...çok

 good point ReyhanL; it isnt fair from they to write and speak only in turkish here, how could we learn more turkish if they are not helping us..I am agree with you

I think it would be very nice if certain people dropped the superior, sarcastic attitude and were as helpful to learners on the site as Merih, Angel of Death, MarioninTurkey, Harpoon, Upsydaisy and many others (all native speakers or as good as) have been for a long time.  We all know that Turkish can be used in the Language section but if people ask for a translation is it so hard to oblige?

LADY IN RED

SITE ADMINISTRATOR

 I am flattered !!! 

 Don´t bother to learn the words ETT writes. Most of them aren´t in use AT ALL and many of them will never be accepted anyway Some words I agree could be changed, like korner or angarya. But kampüs has been accepted for so long, yerleşke just sounds funny, especially when you look at it linguistically --> the ´ke´ suffix is a diminituive one in Turkic language, comparable to ´çik´ in Turkish now. So, take a look at the enormous campuses of Turkey, and then say ´kampüsçük´, because that is what yerleşke actually means

In the 1930s, when there was a campaign to rid the Turkish language of its foreign influences, the newspaper Hakimiyet-i Milliye started to make lists with foreign words and their Turkish replacements to see which one would survive. Out of 1400 suggestions, only 640 were accepted, many of which aren´t used today anymore To give an example: the suggestions for the word kalem were (!! note the plural, and what a confusion the existence of several words would make) yazak, yazgaç, çizgiç, kavrı. And I think there were more For ´hikaye´, they choose erteği, ötkünç. They didnt choose the word ´öykü´ which is the word chosen today

Accepting Arabic and Persian words but not European words, is a kind of purifistic and racist way of language reform. The reason Arabic and Persian is accepted, is because those words have been of long tradition. But you should look at it this way:

Words like ´meclis´ came into the Turkish lands once the Ottomans started taking over governmental systems of Arabs and Persians, and tehrefore took their words as well.

Then why not accept a French word if the concept that hte word conveys is taken over from france as well? What would you suggest for ´teknoloji´?

Ofcourse there is a limit, but to change words that have been used for decades or even centuries seems useless to me, and against the nature of the very concept of ´language´.

yerleşke isn´t funny really, we use it.. at least in Ankara

 I know it´s used on some maps in ODTÜ. However I haven´t heard any ODTÜ student say ´yerleşke´, they all say kampüs (except for the students who are in the Turkish Language student organisation ).

And I still think its funny. It sounds very ´made up´. I remember the reaction of students in İzmir when they saw that the new sportshall of their university had the name ´yerleşke´. They laughed

It´s typical for Turkish people. First step is always laughing,teasing,making fun of it etc .. for me it doesn´t sound funny, is actually well-made like bilgisayar.. you probably think it´s funny too... a machine that counts the information or whatever?? =) And i know many people using yerleşke including me =) I´m using kampüs too so " Problem solved "

 The reason that bilgisayar sounds funny to me is the fact that I am a foreigner and still hear the actual meaning. But I am sure that when you say, hear or read bilgisayar, you don´t hear in your head ´information counter´. It´s just like when I hear swear words like aq, I don´t hear them as ´institutionalized´ swear words but I hear the actual meaning

And I´m not saying it´s a problem If you prefer to use it, then do so I just don´t like the inconsistency of TDK I stopped taking them seriously after Güneş Dil Teorisi

Bilgisayar is better than kompüter ... this sounds worse

I support usage of "Yerleşke", too. At first, it sounded me funny, too but better than "kampüs" at least.

And now I never call it kampüs, as "Yerleşke" exits ...

thx

turkishcobra //

I think kampüs is better personally. I wouldn´t use yerleşke, it sounds so ´we had to think of something´-to me.

But I agree on bilgisayar. The English version just doesn´t go with the ´Turkish tongue´. It´s a matter of preference I suppose

 i agree, it is all about getting used to it...

 "Güneş Dil Teorisi" is just a theory like many others as it is searching the origins of first language but contains lots of interesting knowledges . Nowadays it is popular among linguists by the way...

Soon maybe they will want to change the alphabet too because has nothing to do with turkish language 

why not.. maybe our own Göktürk alphabet soon

 güle güle kullanın

:d

So far as I know the -ke suffix is dative both in Sumerian and archaic Turkish (it is originally Sumerian) / kapıgka => kapıya => to the door

We have some nouns formed by adding -g/ke suffix to a verb root:

bil.ge, böl.ge, bel.ge, bileş.ke, etc. (g changes to k when it follows an unvoiced consonant)

The suffix can be followed by genitive -n:

ser.ge.n, giriş.ke.n, etc.

The suffix follows the vowel harmony:

konuş.ka.n

I assure you none of the words above is funny just because it contains the suffix -g/ke.