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1.       Trudy
7887 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 07:21 pm

Even when a woman can prove with medical documents that she IS a virgin, courts rule in favour of men who claim their wife wasn´t a virgin on the first night of the marriage.

 

What about all the men who aren´t virgins too? Can women send their husband back if he shows too much experience? 

 

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2.       Yersu
241 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 08:04 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Even when a woman can prove with medical documents that she IS a virgin, courts rule in favour of men who claim their wife wasn´t a virgin on the first night of the marriage.

 

What about all the men who aren´t virgins too? Can women send their husband back if he shows too much experience? 

 

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The problem here, is there is no way to find out if a male is virgin or not. And this is not a fault of Turkish legal system but rather a condition that occured by God or nature, so I don´t think there is much that can be done.

 

As for this whole virginity stuff, I don´t think we even have to discuss this issue. Because when one thinks of the situation this law applies, if the person lied about their condition to their spouse, this is about trust rather than the hymen tissue.

3.       Trudy
7887 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 08:16 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

The problem here, is there is no way to find out if a male is virgin or not. And this is not a fault of Turkish legal system but rather a condition that occured by God or nature, so I don´t think there is much that can be done.

 

As for this whole virginity stuff, I don´t think we even have to discuss this issue. Because when one thinks of the situation this law applies, if the person lied about their condition to their spouse, this is about trust rather than the hymen tissue.

 

Like I said: his experience probably proves him being a virgin or not. (Personally I must not think of a virgin husband/boyfriend!)

4.       Yersu
241 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 08:26 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Like I said: his experience probably proves him being a virgin or not. (Personally I must not think of a virgin husband/boyfriend!)

 

Yeah but penetration of hymen is detectable by medical methods whereas experience is totally subjective, so tehre can´t be anything legal about it. Anyway; what good would it make to continue a marriage when people blame eachother for deception in the first night? To be honest I don´t see anything wrong with revoking such marriages.

 

My advice would be:

-Find a husband who isn´t concerned about these matters.

-Don´t lie about it to your future husband.

-Or simply keep your pants up, just in case.

5.       Trudy
7887 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 08:39 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

Yeah but penetration of hymen is detectable by medical methods whereas experience is totally subjective, so tehre can´t be anything legal about it. Anyway; what good would it make to continue a marriage when people blame eachother for deception in the first night? To be honest I don´t see anything wrong with revoking such marriages.

 

My advice would be:

-Find a husband who isn´t concerned about these matters.

-Don´t lie about it to your future husband.

-Or simply keep your pants up, just in case.

 

Keep your pants up? And then we got the simple problem that a lot of women do NOT have a hymen that bleeds when they have sex the first time. Often just because a hymen is not what a lot of people think a kind of membrane covering her internally but it´s just a little rim. (If you don´t believe that, ask a good doctor!) Plus that sometimes activities as gymnastics or horse riding can make the hymen tear, not to mention using tampons. In short, often women are virgins but can´t physically prove that by bleeding. They are blamed for something nature did wrong. And what for? Because guys are afraid of criticism?

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6.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 08:50 pm

A woman who is has the himen intact but made other kinds of sex can be called a virgin ? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

7.       Trudy
7887 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 08:54 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

A woman who is has the himen intact but made other kinds of sex can be called a virgin ? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

 

Other kinds of sex? I´m afraid that for guys who find virginity a matter of life and death these don´t exist! 

8.       Yersu
241 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 09:02 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Keep your pants up? And then we got the simple problem that a lot of women do NOT have a hymen that bleeds when they have sex the first time. Often just because a hymen is not what a lot of people think a kind of membrane covering her internally but it´s just a little rim. (If you don´t believe that, ask a good doctor!) Plus that sometimes activities as gymnastics or horse riding can make the hymen tear, not to mention using tampons. In short, often women are virgins but can´t physically prove that by bleeding. They are blamed for something nature did wrong. And what for? Because guys are afraid of criticism?

 

I think conditions such as "elastic hymen" have disappeared from our gene pool through natural selection, as those poor girls with the genes were slaughtered for not being virgins. Let the Turkish culture run its course for a few millenia and there you go, %100 guaranteed virgins. (I might be joking )

9.       Platschu
29 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 10:50 pm

Have you heard that a Turkish girl was buried alive because she chatted with guys? How could their male relatives so cruel?

10.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 05 Feb 2010 Fri 10:55 pm

 

Quoting Platschu

Have you heard that a Turkish girl was buried alive because she chatted with guys? How could their male relatives so cruel?

 

 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1147823.html

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