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Vineyards, simply no. How would you define Turkish cultural identity? Just trace it back 50 years, 100 years, to the Ottomans, the whole Turchia/Alaturka stuff. It is a mix of Byzantine, Balkans and Turkmen nomads, which can be called Anatolian, but in now way Middle Eastern. The identity of Turks shares more in it with Greeks and Armenians than Kurds, you know this to be true. Greek music is closer to us than Kurdish music. We share the Mediterranean kitchen with Greeks and Armenians, contrary to dominantly animal/animal fat based Kurdish cuisine. Genetically again, we are closer to Balkans. You can set aside a Turk and Kurd more easily, because they have visible distinct physical characteristics: brachiosephalic vs dolicosephalic heads. Just google "Cranial index map", you won´t see a dramatic difference between Balkans and Central Turkey, but there is a definite edge in S.E. Turkey.We don´t even share the exact same faith; Kurds are dominantly shafi Muslims, there aren´t any Turks of shafi sect.

Conclusion: The identity known as "Turk" have in it very little from Kurds, or should I say "had". Now that our state has fallen under the rule of Kurd-Islam, a movement started by Said-i Kurdi 100 years ago, nurtured by F.Gulen and harbored by U.S.A and finally risen to power with AKP, the only way for us seems to be accepting Kurdification. This is very saddening, but I am speaking the truth and any sane person knows it. We have already lost and we are slowly dying while our culture is being replaced with something alien. 200 years from now on no one will remember there were once people known as Turks...

Am I sensing some AlphaF identity here?

Is this to me? I don´t know who your are referring to but I have a single account. You can request from the admin to check my ip.

And why ad hominem at this point? Because what I have written is true, isn´t it?

What a strange arguement...

The word Turk can be explained in two ways...either a citizen of modern day Turkey, which most people here refer to. This INCLUDES those pesky Kurds with their pesky Kurdish culture, their language and songs... Ah, the good old days when they weren´t allowed to speak their Kurdish language.. that really helped against the threat of Kurdification.

Anyway, then there is the more historical reference of Turks. The people who migrated from the Asian steppes. These are NOT the people from Greece, but more closely linked to people from Turkmenistan. If you say the modern Turks is linked to Greece, then you are talking about Turks as the definition "modern day citizen of Turkey", which ALSO includes allll those Kurds, and the Arabs, Circassians and many more ethnic backgrounds.

Kurds living in Turkey are Turkish citizens, deal with it. They are therefor Turks, if those Greek and Armenian decendents are also Turks.

It doesn´t have anything with right or wrong. We are talking about differing mentalities or political preferences here.

There are different mentalities based on different interests, desires, and choices. You can spend your entire life  believing in something which others refuse without even thinking about it. That doesn´t mean you are not entitled to having that belief. It is just that sometimes it may be easier for those outside the circle to notice shortcomings of a belief system.

My family lived and mixed up with locals in Greece for hundreds of years. We call ourselves Turk regardless of how we look or who we are ethnically. It is the culture that brings people together.

All turkish citizens are called "Turkish nation" which consists of different races and cultures. and no race and culture is "pesky" here!

 I had a talk about this just the other day! For me, sex is sex. There is no "kind of sex"... But a Muslim female friend of mine proudly states she wants to remain a virgin until she is married. But in my opinion she isn´t! She has done things that made my ears red when I heard it!

Relativity law of Einstein simply summarize what you are saying RIP Albert!