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1.       si++
3785 posts
 28 Jul 2010 Wed 09:33 am

Polat Alemdar, ´Mavi Marmara´nın intikamını alacak

Polat Alemdar, ´Mavi Marmara´nın intikamını alacak

The shooting starts this week for the new movie titled "Kurtlar vadisi filistin" where Polat Alemdar (Necati Şaşmaz) stars.

The script is based on taking the revenge of the attack and killings at "Mavi Marmara" ship.
Polat will try to capture the commander of the attack, Moşe Ben Eliezer and will witness the cruelty of Eelizer during the movie, but succeding in his aim at the end.

 

Quoted from: here

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2.       timeless
55 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 11:39 am

it is incredible..this film will be different than most have thougts..

I had watched the Valley of the wolfves iraq.it was simply perfect..

i hope i can watched it again..

3.       si++
3785 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 12:24 pm

 

Quoting timeless

it is incredible..this film will be different than most have thougts..

I had watched the Valley of the wolfves iraq.it was simply perfect..

i hope i can watched it again..

The first shots from the set have been made available. See here for example.

 

It´s reported that it will be the biggest budged Turkish movie ever. It will be on on 5Nov2010.

 

Quoted from: here

 

4.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 12:53 pm

 

Quoting timeless

it is incredible..this film will be different than most have thougts..

I had watched the Valley of the wolfves iraq.it was simply perfect..

i hope i can watched it again..

 

Almost all of these series  anti-American, anti-Christian, and antisemitic and the racism and the mafia are glorified.

They should be banned actually!!!

5.       armegon
1872 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 06:24 pm

Just a worthless serial or movie. It gives nothing to people or culture but agitation, a kind of exploitation of people´s feelings...



Edited (9/3/2010) by armegon

6.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 06:29 pm

I liked Valley of The Wolves Iraq i hope this movie will be better than it.

7.       si++
3785 posts
 04 Sep 2010 Sat 04:52 pm

NYT (New York Times) has claimed that this film has severely strained Israel’s relations with Turkey.

 

Full article can be reached here (requires registration).

 

Here´s some quote below:

 

“Valley of the Wolves: Palestine” is built around the unsuccessful attempt in May by a six-boat Turkish flotilla to breach Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza. Eight Turkish activists and a Turkish-American youth were killed when Israeli commandos boarded one ship, the Mavi Marmara, in international waters.

The episode stirred international outrage and severely strained Israel’s relations with Turkey, once a close ally. It also led to a substantial easing of the land blockade of Gaza, which is run by the Islamist militant group Hamas.

Recently, Israel’s top military commander told an Israeli panel investigating the episode that while mistakes had been made in carrying out the raid, the activists were the first to open fire on his soldiers.

“Valley of the Wolves” began in 2003 as a weekly television series whose central character, a Turkish covert agent named Polat Alemdar, is played by Necati Sasmaz. Each week, Polat confronts one crisis or another whose roots often reference noteworthy — or notorious — current events. Think “24” crossed with “Law and Order.” Ratings soared.

An action movie, “Valley of the Wolves: Iraq,” followed in 2006, tapping into the strong feelings of anger many Turks feel toward the United States over the American-led invasion of Iraq. That film, co-starring Gary Busey and made with a budget of more than $10 million, was seen by more than four million viewers in Turkey, still a record. But it failed to attract a significant audience in the United States or Europe.

The next three years brought two more movies in the series.

The production company, Pana Film, had already settled on Palestinian territories as the focus of this year’s release and was about to start shooting when the flotilla confrontation turned into a peg for what the company hopes will be another blockbuster.

8.       timeless
55 posts
 06 Sep 2010 Mon 11:52 am

i disagree some members who think that this film should be banned ..why do you think negatively? otherwise it shouldnt be forbidden..the valley of the wolfves iraq was rather an explanatory film.and now, i think that the valley of the wolfves palestin will determine the relations between Israel and the turkey. this film gave us some information on some politic problems like that.. please dont be negative. .i am sure that some friends who think about it should be banned " watch it pleasurely and they are going to watch the valley of the wolfves palestin on 5 november ..

9.       si++
3785 posts
 06 Sep 2010 Mon 12:18 pm

 

Quoting timeless

i disagree some members who think that this film should be banned ..why do you think negatively? otherwise it shouldnt be forbidden..the valley of the wolfves iraq was rather an explanatory film.and now, i think that the valley of the wolfves palestin will determine the relations between Israel and the turkey. this film gave us some information on some politic problems like that.. please dont be negative. .i am sure that some friends who think about it should be banned " watch it pleasurely and they are going to watch the valley of the wolfves palestin on 5 november ..

 

Yes, why should it be banned. It´s based on a true story (Marmara ship). They may simply not watch it if it´s not for their pleasure.

 

In Hollywood, they make movies which depict Turks/Arabs as terrorists but nobody says they should be banned.

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Sep 2010 Wed 11:47 am

 

Quoting timeless

i disagree some members who think that this film should be banned ..why do you think negatively? otherwise it shouldnt be forbidden..the valley of the wolfves iraq was rather an explanatory film.and now, i think that the valley of the wolfves palestin will determine the relations between Israel and the turkey. this film gave us some information on some politic problems like that.. please dont be negative. .i am sure that some friends who think about it should be banned " watch it pleasurely and they are going to watch the valley of the wolfves palestin on 5 november ..

 

Well.. I think watching the introduction fragment of Kurtlar vadisi will give an idea..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWaeRxciaQ

EU is being shown as a group that is planning to devide Turkey into four.. The same EU we are trying to get into.. The same EU, millions of Turks are living. Israil is shown as country planning to devide Turkey into three.

There are some people really believe that is true!!  What sort of generations those people will be? what sort of mentality will they have? Creating imaginary enemies, imaginary occupations, imaginary splitting of your countries are more different than with giving maps, naming countries, declaring them enemies..

I think this series are simply advocating racism and violence. 

No wonder why almost all surveys are showing a serious xenophobia in Turkey.

 



Edited (9/8/2010) by thehandsom

11.       si++
3785 posts
 08 Sep 2010 Wed 01:19 pm

Release date has been delayed

´Kurtlar Vadisi Filistin´ will not be on theaters on 5Nov2010

Vizyon tarihi ertelendi

The release date earlier announced has been delayed due to some problems. The new release date will be announced by the producer company "Pana film" after the upcoming religious Ramadan holiday.

 

Quoted from: here

12.       si++
3785 posts
 11 Jan 2011 Tue 06:12 pm

 

İşte ´Kurtlar Vadisi Filistin´in afişleri! GALERİ

Merakla beklenen filmin afişleri yayınlandı...

11 Ocak 2011 Salı, 12:36:12
İşte ´Kurtlar Vadisi Filistin´in afişleri!  GALERİ

Yapımcılığını Pana Film’in üstlendiği, başrollerinde Necati Şaşmaz, Gürkan Uygun, Kenan Çoban, Erdal Beşikçioğlu, Nur Aysan ve Erkan Sever´in yer aldığı ´Kurtlar Vadisi Filistin´ filminin afişleri yayınlandı. Senaryosu Raci Şaşmaz, Bahadır Özdener ve Cüneyt Aysan tarafından kaleme alınan, yönetmen koltuğunda Zübeyr Şaşmaz´ın oturduğu film, 28 Ocak 2011’de vizyona girecek.

 Afişleri görmek için tıklayın...

 ´Kurtlar Vadisi Filistin´ fragmanı için tıklayınız...

 ´Kurtlar Vadisi Filistin´den olay yaratacak 2. fragman

FİLMİN KONUSU
Gazze’ye insani yardım malzemeleri götürmeye çalışan gemilere yapılan kanlı baskın üzerine Polat Alemdar ve arkadaşları Filistin’e gitmiştir. Yapılacaklar bellidir: Bu baskının askeri planlayıcısı ve yürütücüsü olan İsrailli komutan ele geçirilmelidir.

Filistinlilerle kurulan ilk temaslar sayesinde hedefine adım adım yaklaşmaya çalışan Polat Alemdar’ı bazı sürprizler beklemektedir. Hedeflerindeki kişi olan Moşe Ben Eliezer’in kural tanımaz gaddarlığı ve teknolojik imkânları işleri zorlaştırmaktadır. Polat, Moşe’ye ulaşmaya çalışırken, Filistin’de masum insanların nasıl öldürüldüklerini görür. Moşe, köyleri yıkmakta, çocukları öldürmekte ve Polat’a yardım eden herkesi hapse atmaktadır. Ancak teknolojik imkânlar ve kural tanımazlık, Moşe’yi kurtarmaya yetmeyecektir.

 

Short translation:

"Kurtlar Vadisi Filistin" (Valley of wolves - Palestine), starring Necati Şaşmaz, Gürkan Uygun, Kenan Çoban, Erdal Beşikçioğlu, Nur Aysan and Erkan Sever, produced by Pana Film will be on theaters on 28 Jan 2010. Finally!

 

Source: here

13.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 11 Jan 2011 Tue 08:23 pm

Second trailer is incredible. I look forward to watch the movie. Nobody talks about banning Rambo movies but when it comes to a Turkish movie everybody start to protest it. This is called hypocrisy.

14.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 11 Jan 2011 Tue 10:49 pm

I think its silly to ban movies because you don´t agree with the subject matter but its just as silly to ban a TV show because it shows a long dead sultan from a long gone empire drinking wine.  see:  http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish/forum/forumTitle_48807_4

 

It´s just entertainment.  If you don´t like it, don´t watch it. 



Edited (1/11/2011) by Elisabeth

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15.       scalpel
1472 posts
 12 Jan 2011 Wed 12:56 am

None of "F type" movies attract me. I have no interest in watching any part of that series.

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16.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 12 Jan 2011 Wed 02:29 am

I watched all episodes of "Valley of the Wolves" series. And I am also aware of the political change in the subtext. I don´t approve it. I watch the series because there are action and talented actors. But movies are different. I like brave movies. And I think criticising U.S.A. so harshly in the first movie and now Israil in the second movie requires courage. I appreciate scenarists. Someone has to tell the tragedy of the people in the occupied countries. Using cinema for that purpose is very effective. I think we should support this kind of movies.

17.       si++
3785 posts
 12 Jan 2011 Wed 11:23 am

I rarely go to movie theaters but I will likely see this one.

18.       scalpel
1472 posts
 12 Jan 2011 Wed 02:33 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

I watch the series because there are action and talented actors. . 

 

 

You should have added:apart from the one who plays Polat Alemdar in the series. He is the most "kazma" Turkish actor I have ever seen. He is as equally untalented as S.Stallone! {#emotions_dlg.lol} 

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19.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 12 Jan 2011 Wed 04:27 pm

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

 

You should have added:apart from the one who plays Polat Alemdar in the series. He is the most "kazma" Turkish actor I have ever seen. He is as equally untalented as S.Stallone! {#emotions_dlg.lol} 

Of course he is not as talented as others. But in years he has improved his acting.

 

20.       si++
3785 posts
 13 Jan 2011 Thu 10:15 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

Of course he is not as talented as others. But in years he has improved his acting.

 

 

Nevertheless, isn´t he the most paid actor anyway?

21.       scalpel
1472 posts
 13 Jan 2011 Thu 01:15 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Nevertheless, isn´t he the most paid actor anyway?

 

I am not at all surprised at that..money is not problem to any of "F type" organisation Cool

22.       si++
3785 posts
 25 Jan 2011 Tue 10:08 pm

German film board prevents release of Turkish film

´Kurtlar Vadisi: Filistin´ (Valley of the Wolves: Palestine) reprises the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara ship.


´Kurtlar Vadisi: Filistin´ (Valley of the Wolves: Palestine) reprises the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara ship.

Plans to screen a Turkish film in Germany starting Thursday have been halted over concerns the action movie contains anti-Semitic propaganda.

A spokesperson for the Pera Film Company in Cologne, which was distributing “Kurtlar Vadisi: Filistin” (Valley of the Wolves: Palestine) in Germany, said the German Movie Control Association, or FSK, would prevent the screening because the movie, which allegedly features anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli overtones, was to be released on Jan. 27, International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

Noting that the company would obey the FSK’s decision for now, the spokesperson said they would make a final decision concerning the issue after examining the justification for the order.

“Kurtlar Vadisi” had been criticized by German politicians of various political persuasions in recent days.

“‘Kurtlar Vadisi: Filistin’ is a problematic movie because it foments violence, anti-Israeli [feelings] and anti-Semitic sentiments,” said Kerstin Griese, a parliamentary deputy for the opposition Social Democratic Party.

The date chosen to release the movie elicited anger from across the political spectrum, with Philip Missfelder, a parliamentary member of the ruling Christian Democratic Party, saying it disrespected victims of the Holocaust. Jerzy Montag of the Green Party said it was “irresponsible” to release the film Jan. 27.

The film reprises the raid on the Mavi Marmara, a Turkish ship that was carrying humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip last year when it was attacked by Israeli commandos, resulting in the deaths of eight Turks and one U.S. citizen of Turkish origin.

Kurtlar Vadisi first started as a television series, but spin-off movies have since come to accompany the continuing TV shows. The franchise is famous for touching upon political issues, such as when U.S. forces detained Turkish soldiers in Iraq and put sacks over their heads. The nationalist hero of the movie, Polat Alemdar, is a semi-official Turkish agent who exacts revenge on those who act against the Turks

 

Source: here

23.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 28 Jan 2011 Fri 07:46 pm

Who watched the movie and how is it? I especially wonder Erdal Beşikçioğlu´s performance. I am a fan of him from Behzat Ç. serial.



Edited (1/28/2011) by gokuyum

24.       vineyards
1954 posts
 28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:15 pm

This movie is like a poison for the young minds. It has created thousands of wannabe Polats.

Thinking of the differences and similarities between this and The Godfather: The Godfather also depicted the life of mafia members but it did not so with an eye to revealing a reality of life The movie did that without praising the evil aspects of mafia members or by trying to turn them into idols. In the end, it did create idols but that was thanks to immense acting powers of the likes of Marlon Brando and the excellence of the whole production complete with the theme music. People praised Marlon Brando for the performance or the producers for the work. In the case of Kurtlar Vadisi, it is the mafia life that is presented as an enviable choice not the acting, not the music, not the photography etc. 

Nevertheless, I condemn Germany´s decision to call off the debut of the movie. The producers are purposefully playing these tricks to bring it up on the agenda by making it appear as if what is told in the movie is relevant to the current political affairs.

 



Edited (1/28/2011) by vineyards

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25.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:24 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

This movie is like a poison for the young minds. It has created thousands of wannabe Polats.

Thinking of the differences and similarities between this and The Godfather: The Godfather also depicted the life of mafia members but it did not so with an eye to revealing a reality of life The movie did that without praising the evil aspects of mafia members or by trying to turn them into idols. In the end, it did create idols but that was thanks to immense acting powers of the likes of Marlon Brando and the excellence of the whole production complete with the theme music. People praised Marlon Brando for the performance or the producers for the work. In the case of Kurtlar Vadisi, it is the mafia life that is presented as an enviable choice not the acting, not the music, not the photography etc.

Nevertheless, I condemn Germany´s decision to call off the debut of the movie. The producers are purposefully playing these tricks to bring it up on the agenda by making it appear as if what is told in the movie is relevant to the current political affairs.

 

 

 I agree with some points but this movie is about Palastine. We should first discuss about this issue. Almost a decade later we start to do our own movies against USA propoganda movies like Rambo series that show almost all Muslims as terrorists or barbaric people. This is an important step.



Edited (1/28/2011) by gokuyum
Edited (1/28/2011) by gokuyum

26.       si++
3785 posts
 29 Jan 2011 Sat 10:19 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

 I agree with some points but this movie is about Palastine. We should first discuss about this issue. Almost a decade later we start to do our own movies against USA propoganda movies like Rambo series that show almost all Muslims as terrorists or barbaric people. This is an important step.

 

Good point gokuyum. We are always brainwashed with the American movies where the American are good guys and the others (Turks, Arabs, etc) are bad (barbarians, terrorists, etc).

It´s a good step that we can produce movies depicting our point of views where the American or Israelis may as well be shown as bad guys.

27.       si++
3785 posts
 29 Jan 2011 Sat 10:21 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

Who watched the movie and how is it? I especially wonder Erdal Beşikçioğlu´s performance. I am a fan of him from Behzat Ç. serial.

 

Not yet but here´s a quote (from here):

 

"It plants the seeds of hostility"

Comments on"Valley of the Wolves - Palestine" are harsh

28 Ocak 2011 Cuma, 17:18:15
"It plants the seeds of hostility"

"Valley of the wolves - Palestine" is a Turkish action movie. Scenario is about deadly Israeli raid on a Gaza-bound Turksih aid ship, Mavi Marmara opened in cinemas across Turkey on Friday.

A Turkish undercover agent hunts down Israeli commanders responsible for the killing of nine activists who died in Mavi Marmara.

Film is based on popular TV series "Valley of the wolves". Last year, This series caused a diplomatic tension between Turkey and Israel.

Israel´s ambassador Gabby Levy told Anatolia news agency that in the movie some "generalizations about the Jewish people, certain anti-Semitic approaches" were "disturbing."

In movie, there are sharp dialogues between the Turks and the Israelis.

Movie´s producer Zubeyir Sasmaz says the movie aim is to expose injustice against Palestinian

Turkish Cinema critic Atilla Dorsay´s comment on film is; "it plants the seeds of hostility" and another critic Alper Turgut says, " it is caricatureted"

According to Dorsay, as an action film it is already excellent, one of the best examples but its content is so disputable. "It´s a kind of Turkish style Rambo story. Thanks to planting ethnic and religious hostility seeds in Turkish public, it could create new problems. its message is not so healthy on the issue of Turkish modern foreign politics."

For Turgut, senario is very horrible, acting is terrible. Senario is designed around only the events on Mavi Marmara, there is no before and after.

28.       vineyards
1954 posts
 29 Jan 2011 Sat 04:04 pm

Well, we don´t like the cheap Hollywood movies do we? We don´t like the Israeli propoganda machine pushing these cheap productions either. We know exactly what we don´t like: it is satanizing, demonizing, mocking, ridiculing, misrepresenting people and their cultures. You know the magic word in the Israeli mindset is retaliation. We are using their technique against them. This will turn us into Israelis. No matter how hard it seems to prove a point internationally, we shouldn´t be seeking retaliation by putting aside tolerance and wisdom.

 

 

 

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29.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 29 Jan 2011 Sat 08:18 pm

The problem with these kinds of movies is that people think that this is reality. They have used a real story, and used this as a base for a movie script. It remains a movie however, with big dramatizations, and even things that never happened. But do the people in the cinema realize this, or will they form an opinion based on a movie, made to create money for the studio-owners?

30.       vineyards
1954 posts
 29 Jan 2011 Sat 08:59 pm

This has been the name of the game for years. 

Quoting barba_mama

The problem with these kinds of movies is that people think that this is reality. They have used a real story, and used this as a base for a movie script. It remains a movie however, with big dramatizations, and even things that never happened. But do the people in the cinema realize this, or will they form an opinion based on a movie, made to create money for the studio-owners?

 

 

31.       si++
3785 posts
 30 Jan 2011 Sun 11:18 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

The problem with these kinds of movies is that people think that this is reality. They have used a real story, and used this as a base for a movie script. It remains a movie however, with big dramatizations, and even things that never happened. But do the people in the cinema realize this, or will they form an opinion based on a movie, made to create money for the studio-owners?

 

Right! People watched the "Midnight Express" where all Turks are portrayed as bad and you know what, probably most of the viewers belived it.

 

During the 1999 Cannes Film Festival, Alinur Velidedeoğlu, a Turkish advertiser, met Billy Hayes by chance and interviewed him on the film Midnight Express. Hayes expressed his disappointment with parts of the film adaptation, especially its portrayal of all Turks as bad, and his regret that Turkey´s image was negatively affected by the film. Hayes also displayed affection for Turkey and Istanbul. Although the Interpol warrant for him had by then been set aside, he explained that while he wanted to return, he hesitated to do so out of concern that many Turks might blame him for the negative publicity the movie had generated.

Hayes did finally return to Turkey on June 14, 2007 to attend the 2nd Istanbul Conference on Democracy and Global Security, organized by the Turkish National Police (TNP) and the Turkish Institute for Police Studies (TIPS), to amend the negative implications of his book. He held a press conference on June 15 and made an apology to the Turkish people.

32.       tunci
7149 posts
 30 Jan 2011 Sun 12:30 pm

 

Quoting si++

Polat Alemdar, ´Mavi Marmara´nın intikamını alacak

Polat Alemdar, ´Mavi Marmara´nın intikamını alacak

The shooting starts this week for the new movie titled "Kurtlar vadisi filistin" where Polat Alemdar (Necati Şaşmaz) stars.

The script is based on taking the revenge of the attack and killings at "Mavi Marmara" ship.
Polat will try to capture the commander of the attack, Moşe Ben Eliezer and will witness the cruelty of Eelizer during the movie, but succeding in his aim at the end.

 

Quoted from: here

 

This movie definetely will get bad reactions from certain people and countries as expected..but at the end of the day its giving some messages against cruelity
?  or is it like encouraging taking revenge ??? debatable....

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