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20.       cedars
235 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 07:36 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Barabbas was very real too; so was his version of the bible....

 

 
Barabbas,  was the robber whereas Barnabas was the apostle.
They are two different persons.
The bible  you are talking about is the Gospel of Barnabas.

21.       stumpy
638 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 08:10 pm

The possible reasons why the Gospels of Barnabas was not included in the current version of the Catholic Bible are:

1- Barnabas says that Jesus is not the son of God but a prophet(first and foremost thing that goes against the Catholic preachings)

2- He calls Paul "The Deceiver"(looks like some infighting amongst the aposils)

3- States that Jesus rose to the heavens without being crussified and that Judas Ascariot was crusified instead(in the Bible Judas delivered Jesus to be crussified and later hung himself in repent for betraying Jesus)

Basiscly Barnabas was black balled from the Bible by one of the many Popes that "edited" the Bible

22.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 09:33 pm

 

Quoting stumpy

The possible reasons why the Gospels of Barnabas was not included in the current version of the Catholic Bible are:

1- Barnabas says that Jesus is not the son of God but a prophet(first and foremost thing that goes against the Catholic preachings)

2- He calls Paul "The Deceiver"(looks like some infighting amongst the aposils)

3- States that Jesus rose to the heavens without being crussified and that Judas Ascariot was crusified instead(in the Bible Judas delivered Jesus to be crussified and later hung himself in repent for betraying Jesus)

Basiscly Barnabas was black balled from the Bible by one of the many Popes that "edited" the Bible

 

Interesting from a theological point of view, but sorry - all religions are man-made fantasy

 

You mention that the Pope "edited" that part.....don´t you realise that it was ALL written and edited by men anyway?



Edited (9/10/2010) by TheAenigma

23.       stumpy
638 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 09:51 pm

 TheAenigma

 

TheAenigma, I know all of that, that is why I am Catholic just because my parents had me christen as a child {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile} 

We can say that I am a non practecing Catholic as I do not see the point to go and listen to a man preach in front of a pulpit

Also, after reading the the old testament and the new testament, the Qu´ran, the Talmud, the Tao-te-ching, Upanishads and the Veda, I kinda gave up on religion, gives me headaches {#emotions_dlg.confused}

24.       TheAenigma
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 10 Sep 2010 Fri 09:54 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Barabbas was very real too; so was his version of the bible....Guess why his work did not receive any tolerance?

 

Some possibilities to chose from. What do you think?

1. the font in his book is too small to read

2. his version of the holy book is too big to fit in any decent library.

3. his version includes references to a prophet to come after Jesus; even names the expected prophet.

 

I am quite sure the answer is of course (3) and, so we see yet again argument is started between religions.  Jesus was a man, Mohammad was a man, both claim to have spoken the word of god/allah (sorry no capital letters from me).  You either believe in one, the other, or neither - that is your personal choice.  I respect anyone´s personal choice and "faith" even though I dont personally believe or follow any religion.

So why then, WHY, do those paragons of virtue, those devout, pious men and women who claim to be religious seem so unable to do that?  They argue, ridicule each other, spread religious propaganda, trying to make others convert to their religion and, worst of all, behave with such hatred and intolerance of eachother? Your post above is a perfect example.  Its not a very good "advert" for your religion is it?

The fact is, the religion you are is 99.9% dictated by where you were born.  Its not choice for most people, its culture, and so it comes down to nationalism more than religion.

If religion makes you feel good, fine - enjoy it, feel virtuous, and follow it´s teachings - I am not interested in you all trying to prove something that cannot be proved.  Keep it all to yourselfs...

 

25.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 11 Sep 2010 Sat 12:24 am

 

Quoting cedars

 

 

 
Barabbas,  was the robber whereas Barnabas was the apostle.
They are two different persons.
The bible  you are talking about is the Gospel of Barnabas.

Correct...ty

 

26.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 11 Sep 2010 Sat 12:40 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

I am quite sure the answer is of course (3) and, so we see yet again argument is started between religions.  Jesus was a man, Mohammad was a man, both claim to have spoken the word of god/allah (sorry no capital letters from me).  You either believe in one, the other, or neither - that is your personal choice.  I respect anyone´s personal choice and "faith" even though I dont personally believe or follow any religion.

So why then, WHY, do those paragons of virtue, those devout, pious men and women who claim to be religious seem so unable to do that?  They argue, ridicule each other, spread religious propaganda, trying to make others convert to their religion and, worst of all, behave with such hatred and intolerance of eachother? Your post above is a perfect example.  Its not a very good "advert" for your religion is it?

The fact is, the religion you are is 99.9% dictated by where you were born.  Its not choice for most people, its culture, and so it comes down to nationalism more than religion.

If religion makes you feel good, fine - enjoy it, feel virtuous, and follow it´s teachings - I am not interested in you all trying to prove something that cannot be proved.  Keep it all to yourselfs...

 

 

Your discussion seems reasonable enough, until you start claiming it is perfectly normal for some weird teacher to teach Turkmen infants how to read Arabic script, using Bible as the teaching medium.

Things get worse when you start moaning, complaining and accusing the wisdom of a respectable gentleman who points out there is someting ridiculusly fishy in this operation.

After that point, nobody listens to you anymore, anyway!

Got the message?

27.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 12 Sep 2010 Sun 12:05 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Your ...Got the message?

 

No - I stopped reading after "your" )

28.       oddchild
9 posts
 28 Apr 2011 Thu 06:30 pm

hı all. ı am usıng a turkısh keyboard so ıt ıs hard to type. 

 

to answer a few questıons...

 

 

there are a lot of Turkmen that have left Islam and follow Chrıst. In Kurdıstan there are more than Lebanon. However sınce they do not know Arabıc so well ıt seems natural to teach them to read Turkısh. However theır Turkısh ıs more sımılar to that whıch exsısted prıor to Ataturk. 

The Bıble would mostly be read by theır parents and by the teenagers. I have found some copıes of thıs bıble (ottoman) however ıt exısts ın Haleb. They are old copıes that are kept by the Armenıan communıty. If the Lord wılls I should be able to get some copıes sometıme later thıs year. If I am not able to fınd a copy onlıne I wıll consıder puttıng ıt onlıne. I would really lıke to reproduce ıt for the Turkmen communıtıes ın Lebanon Syrıa Iran and Iraq who do not read the Turkısh Alphabet.  

 

I hope that clears up any questıons... Sorry for not respondıng earlıer and brıngıng up an old topıc.

29.       oddchild
9 posts
 29 Apr 2011 Fri 11:48 am

http://www.holybiblefoundation.org/home/turkish-bible

 

I found the fırst few pages... 

30.       oddchild
9 posts
 28 Jun 2011 Tue 01:32 am

It has been foud: http://www.archive.org/details/1857TurkishTurcTurkeiTurqueNouveauNewTestamentIncilInjilKitabi

 

 

Look at the left you can view online or download.

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