Here is a a speech of Ece Temelkuran (a Turkish journalist) on her book Deep Mountain which is about Armenian Issue

http://www.umich.edu/~iinet/media3/asp/10-11/temelkuran_20100927/ 

Wow..

I am definitely buying her book. Lovely woman(!), nice speech.

But what a lovely song which was played just before her speech.. I had goose bumps..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8npcBMW3GI

==

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Hayat tek bir andi sensiz yollarda

Bu yil erguvanlar sessiz düsecek suya

The life was just a moment on the roads without you

Purple flowers  will fall into the water quitely this year

.......

.......

En çok erguvanlar bu sehre yakisir

Sen hem erguvanlar hem bu sehirsin Hrant!

Purple flowers go together with this city best.

You are this city as well as the purple flowers, Hrant.

Thanks

She is a great and brave journalist. The Turkish title of the book is "Ağrı´nın Derinliği".

She is not a historian. She has no value in this field. She just wants to be popular.

Armenians backed(used) by Russia, France and England  massacred thousands of Turks in order to carve out their "Greater Armenia". They were not successful and for the safety of the innocent muslim people and Turkey in general they were displaced and relocated in Syria and Lebanon provinces of Turkey.

Their notorius terrorist organisations like the Tashnaks are still active.

They are used by Turkey´s western allies today to keep Turkey under pressure and control.  They discovered this tactic in the 1960s when Turkey had a political crisis with the US government (Lyndon Johnson) . 

France murdered millions of Algerians in 1960s who cares about them ?!

lets not talk about near a million children starved to death by american food sanctions since 1990 and an equal number of people losing their lives in ırak war, lets not talk 1.5 million deaths of vietnam. 3 million of hiroshima, chechenia, saddams massacres, cyprus massacre, albanian serbian massacres, palestina, coup in iran, 3 coups in turkey, lets not talk about nahçıvan, şerür, erivan, karabağ. and lets not even talk about africa.

lets talk about armenian massacre instead which we are not sure whether if it was armenians towards turks or turks towards armenians.

This was my official response in Europe (2006) to a request regarding my stance on Armenian Issue

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You know what I find striking? That Turks in general always asume that the whole of Europe is against them. Guess what, this isn´t about the Turks today! I don´t get why Turks are so hyper about this issue, when it is clear to all that mass murders took place. Every historian agrees on this, they just debate about the labels put on this mass murder. Turks today are being so sensitive about something, when they should just be happy to be alive, look towards the future and find a way to leave in peace with Armenians, without this standing between them.

I have never been so bored with a debate about something that was so important....

If I deny "so called" Armenian genocide in Switzerland, I get jailed. Is this over-sensitivity?

How ´bout the denial of "so called" Armenian genocide becoming and issue during Dutch elections?

Amsterdam: Genocide Denial Causes Dutch Election Upset

GENOCIDE DENIAL CAUSES DUTCH ELECTION UPSET
by Andy Clark

Radio Netherlands, Netherlands
Sept 27 2006

It might seem a little strange but the Armenian genocide of 1915 has
become an issue in the run up to the Dutch elections. The two leading
parties in the opinion polls have kicked out prospective MPs because
they deny that the genocide took place. The candidates, one from the
opposition Labour Party and two from the biggest coalition party -
the Christian Democrat CDA - are Dutch/Turkish politicians.

It made the headlines after questions were raised by the Armenian
community in the Netherlands when the names of the candidates were
made public on the party lists for the November elections, and a
heated discussion soon followed.

Official policy The candidates in question had clearly stated in the
past that, in their view, the genocide of Armenians in Turkey in 1915
had not taken place. This view is contrary to the official policy of
the Dutch government and of the parties themselves.

Tineke Huizinga is from the Christian Union - a small party in the
parliament which introduced an initiative in 2004 saying that the
government has to push for recognition of the genocide in Turkey as
part of the negotiations for Turkey´s desired accession to the EU.

That initiative was unanimously accepted. Ms Huzinga explains the
official Dutch position:

"More than one and a half million people were murdered during the
time of World War I by Turkey and this was a genocide and you can
absolutely compare this with the Holocaust."

Never took place It was a clash with this position that brought the CDA
candidates Ayhan Tonca, Osman Elamci and Labour Party candidate Erdinc
Sacan into problems with their parties. Ayhan Tonca has constantly
denied the genocide occurred:

"The genocide that people talk about never took place."

Although he doesn´t deny that hundreds of thousands of people died,
he argues that there needs to be further investigation to see if the
killings were consciously carried out by the Turkish government at that
time. Deliberate and conscious persecution would constitute genocide.

Newspaper interview His explanation was not in line with the
recognition of genocide called for by his party, and events that
followed the initial uproar made things even harder for the CDA to
accept. Under pressure following the discussion in the Dutch media,
the two CDA candidates signed a declaration saying they had changed
their minds and would now recognise the genocide. But then followed
an interview with a Turkish newspaper in which they repeated their
original denials - and this left the CDA with little choice but to
remove them from the list of candidates.

Today in America, the "so called" genocide of the Armenians is included in the books that teach the Holocaust to schoolchildren. Through political influence and writers´ ignorance, it has been included as another example of inhumanity, a false example.

Through the ageney of Holocaust Studies, American children are learning what is usually the only thing they ever learn about Turks, and that is the so-called Armenian Genoeide. Most American school children see nothing else about Turks in their schoolbooks. They only see Turks in their study of what Turks supposedly did to .Armenians; and I might say, it is a completely one-sided description at that.

The feeling about Turks is so ingrained that it is impossible to have rational dialogue on the subject. But the question remains-where does all this come from? Why do the otherwise caring and liberal academics who write on the Holocaust feel it proper to vilify one people, the Turks, without considering any other side of a contested issue?

Having a school age child in America myself, I have not seen anything of the sort in any of the school books (thank God).  To be completely honest, they don´t talk about Turks at all.  If it were not for the fact that my son´s step father is Turkish, he would never know anything of Turkish culture.  So in that respect, people could say anything about Turks and with nothing to compare it to or refute it, people easily believe something they hear or read in the media.  I know that the American Turkish Association does a lot of outreach to inform and educate people about Turkish Culture.  In Houston, we have several Turkish events that are open to the public going on throughout the year. Turkish culture is quite accessible here.  It needs to be more accessible in other places so that when people hear about the Armenian issue, they will say, "you know, I met some Turkish people and they are not evil...maybe I need to find out what happened for myself."  Education is the key not anger.  

What happened in The Netherlands is not what is written in that piece quoted before. Those party members were not simply kicked out because they said "I don´t believe there was an Armenian genocide". It is a small part of a very big story, and they didn´t simply say "this is what I believe" but made a big fuss about it. A bit like sii

The problem with some of the statements made earlier is that people seem to think that the Armenian issue will cause people to see Turks today as killers. I don´t think Germans are bad people because of the Holocaust! And to be honest, I don´t know anybody who judges the Germans they meet today based on what happened during World War 2. And the Armenian issue even happened decades before that! What influences people´s view of Turks today much more than the Armenian issue is what they see on holiday, unintegrated people they see in big cities in their own countries, integrated people that they have direct contact with, and today´s Turkish politics.

I see you wat to make parallels between Turks and German!

Germans committed Genocide. There was enough evidence. They were found guilty in an international trial.

No internatioanal trial took place so far for 1915 events and probably never will. Because orthodox Western histories of the declining Ottoman Empire are biased, since they are based on the testimonies of biased observers: Christian missionaries, and officials of (Christian) nations who were at war with the Ottomans during World War I. So there is no sufficient evidence for such a trial.

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

İf you don´t strongly deny something, people assume you are guilty.

Empires never lasts forever. But the real history tells the truth forever.

ACCORDING TO THE REAL HISTORY and TURKISH PUBLIC OPINION:

Ottoman Empire (1300-1922) ruled Eastern Europe, Balkans, Southern Africa, Anatolia, Western Asia and Middle East for 400-500 years very peacefully.There is no genocide in the Turkish Culture.

But during World War I, some western countries –Türkiye, Turkish Government, Turkish People  know these countries with a lot of sufficient evidences for  an international trial in the future one day-and others have provoked local nationalities and etnical groups - like Araps, Greeks, Bulgarians, Armanieans, etc - against Ottoman Empire in 1910-18.

In the World War I, Ottoman Empire and its allies Garmany, Austria and Hungary lost the war against other allies in 1918.

Then The Ottoman Empire collapsed.

And the Turks were forced to migrate to Türkiye  from the Balkans and Middle East.

This was a real humanity tragedy.A sad true story.

After World War I, The Otoman Empire People, Turkish People immigrated to Türkiye  like a migrant from the Ottoman Empires provinces to todays Türkiye.

The one of the Ottoman Empire provinces was Greece for 400 years.

This was a very dramatic and tragedic history for every Turkish family. Because of some western countries provoked some ethnical goups-like Greeks, Armenians,  Arabs, etc-  in Balkans, Middle East and Eastern Anatolia in 1915.

The one of these immigrant  families was my ancestors.They immigrated to Türkiye like refugees from Greece and Crete Island.Can you imagine?They were Ottoman Empire Citizens.But they have lost their own lives, their own families, their own houses, their own homelands, their own friends, their own neighbours, their own memories and hopes unfortunately.It was a very sad and tragic story.

After these provocations, some ethnical groups murdered thousands of Turkish old people, Turkish children, Turkish pregnant women unfortunately.This was a humanity  crime.

Historical records, proofs, evidences, photos, historical documents  and Russian and Turkish diaries  tell the tragic truths in details in 1915.

And then these western countries and ethnical groups  wanted to invade Turkish motherland and Balkans and Middle East.

And finally, a new Turkish Government and its Army  won the National Independence War against these western countries and the new Turkish State founded in 1920-1923 instead of Ottoman Empire.

But Türkiye lost Balkans, Aegean Islands, Cyprus, Crete  and Middle East after World War I.

AND After World War II  NATO was founded and Türkiye  became an active member  of this organization.And Türkiye went to  the Korean war  with USA and other NATO allies in 1953.

History, proofs,evidences, photos, historical documents and diaries  tell the historical truths.

The World Historians - Like Justin McCarty, an American Historian, other  Russian and France historians- also   wrote  some books about war crimes. You can find and read their historical books for an international trail.

Ottoman Empire was multinational and multicultural  empire.USA used Ottoman Empire as a model.And Türkiye is also multinational and multicultural country like Ottoman Empire, USA and other countries.

As you know very well there is no pure ethnic country in the world.

And today, according to the Turkish Public Union and Turkish Media

some western countries are still provoking, organizing and financing  some  global and local illegal terrorist organizations and ethnical groups.

The Turkish Government is always complaining these facts for the World Public Union.

The Turkish Governments have also complained these illegalities to the USA - Obama and Hillary Clington - and other western countries with a lot of sufficient legal evidences and proofs for an international trial.

And Turkish Media has informed these news for the World Media and World Public Union for an international trial.

si++, I can´t not speak for all school districts in all states, however I can tell you that where my son goes to school this subject is not discussed. For the most part, World War 1 and the Turkish War of Independance is not even mentioned.  

I feel it is necessary to explain to you that states and school districts are free to teach with whatever text books are approved by individual school boards.  Education is not necessarily driven by the federal government, so if it is being taught in one district that does not mean it is being taught everywhere.  It is important to me personally that you don´t think we are all being indoctrinated to hates Turks.  If that is happening in indivual school districts than it needs to be addressed by parents directly to the school board.   

@yilgun-2010

I agree with every single word in your post, couldn´t express it better.

@barba_mama

Turks might seem to be a little over sensitive but they are not judged by the same standards as Christian Western countries are. Yes, Germany committed Genocide but they were still treated fairly by the Europeans. Out of the 4 occupants (US, UK, France & Russia), only Russia was unwilling to yield the occupied territories back to Germany despite the severe concerns of France, and even Russia finally yielded it back. In Turkey´s case, not only the whole country was occupied and tried to be colonised, but also the territories where the Turks were the majority or the greatest minority, they were forcibly occupied and exposed to ethnic cleansing. Many parts in Balkans, Caucasus (including the Azeri population), and the Northern Iraq (where the Turkmens were the majority). In short, the very existence of the country was in danger.

Also the recognition of a completely one-sided, manipulated and misintrepreted so called genocide is never going to be on the agenda of the heirs of an Empire, who, for the most part, lived peacefully with her subjects. Why not?

a) Confessing something that you never did just isn´t right no matter what the circumstances would be.

b) The main reason why Armenians are so obsessed about this (to the degree that they engaged in many horrible terrorist activities which simply overlooked by the Westerners, including the assassinations of many high level officials and even the Sultan!) is two folds:

i) To keep the Armenian diaspora united against a common Threat in a heroic & nationalistic fashion (so that the Armenian culture will be alive and refreshed).

ii) To get some territorial or more realistically financial compensation from the Turks just like the reparations the State of Israel got from Germany on behalf of the Holocaust survivors.

The major reasons why Europeans support it are,

i) To use it against Turkey for political advantage in Foreign Relations

ii) To use it as a political instrument in their domestic affairs

iii) To balance out the power of Turkey as a regional power hence several smaller and less powerful states are better than one large strong country. This is also the main reason behind the PKK support.

iv) To destabilize the newly emerging regional power both in economic and military terms.

It is sometimes hard to understand the "anti-Turk" sentiment in Europe. Whenever I asked this question to Europeans, they told me their side of the stories where Turks were the vicious occupiers, murderers, barbarians etc. The objective history does not concur with them. Germans or Russians or the French, for example, killed a lot more Europeans than the Ottomans. Serbians, for example, never were able to live peacefully with Bosnians, or Croatians, but instead preferred to kill them brutally. Those regions were relatively much more peaceful in the Ottoman Era.

However, this anti-Turk sentiment might partially be explained by Huntington"s Clash of the Civillizations theory, where Turks were simply aliens or outsiders. As one of my brilliant professors articulated rather crudely, regarding Stalin vs Hitler,

"Hitler was son of b****, he had to be eliminated, and yes Stalin was son of a b**** too, but he was OUR son of a b****."

Just like this, Germans or Russians or the French etc were responsible for the murders of possibly millions of Europeans and in this regard, they were all enemies, but they were enemies of "Europe´s own". Turks, on the ther hand, were not their s.o.b!

As one Western Historian says, "I´d prefer to be a Christian living under Moslem Rule rather than be a Moslem and live under Christian Rule".

thats an amazing paper. i hope the people you sent it to read that again and again and turned deep people in the process

The issue, as I see it, is one of Armenians wanting reparation, not simply recognition.IOW there are  monetary and territorial demands that go with recognition.

Armenian Genocide Reparations

I have not read the complete article referenced above...but it will give you an idea of why it´s such a sticky issue.

There is also the matter of "greater Armenia" ????

There is some discussion going on here recently. For those who have not noticed it, I´ll take the liberty to copy paste some of it here:

Mr.Thunder said:

Those numbers are not so important. Orhanis Pamukyan is not a historian either. He wants to become popular by creating a sensation in the media. His skills as a novelist are also very limited. They gave him that Nobel Prize for the political reasons only. He is full of hot air. There are serious charges of plagiarism against him. In fact they are proven by Historian Murat Bardakçı.

See his article about the plagiarist Orhanis Pamukyan Effendi

http://arama.hurriyet.com.tr/arsivnews.aspx?id=74394


The important point is what had really happened in 1915 and why they (the western powers) heat up this issue.

Armenians were not innocent they commited vile atrocities in Eastern Anatolia. Ethnic cleansing was their only method to become a majority in the East of Turkey in order to be able to establish their "Greater Armenia".

When the Russians invaded Eastern Anatolia in WW I the Armenian militia made ethnic cleansing of civilians. And even the Russian commander complained to his headquarters in Russia about the Armenian barbarism. I read the printed version of his reports taken from the Russian archives. (Russian original documents, with Turkish and english translations in one book published by the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs)

See what a supporter of the Armenians against Turks and an eyewitness to the events wrote then in 1915 !!

click here for Bolhovitinov´s report.

And some excerpts from video from that link:

England intentionally incited Armenians to violence in eastern Anatolia to impede the formation of an alliance between Czarist Russia and the Ottomans that would create a new axis of power.

Russian Brgader General Bolhovitinov 1915

“Armenian volunteer regiments motivated by ethnic hatred vicously massacred Ottoman Muslims”

from Bolhovitinov’s Report

“Before the British induced conflict, Kurds, Turks and Armenians lived together in peace.”

from Bolhovitinov’s Report

“European diplomacy pushed the idea of the formation of an independent Armenia.”

from Bolhovitinov’s Report

“Europe supported rebellion and violence by Armenian guerillas and used Armenian intellectuals to influence public opinion in Europe.”

from Bolhovitinov’s Report

“The Muslim populace was attacked on every front using every means, both under cover of the staged ‘rebellion’ by Armenian guerilla bands and with propaganda.”

from Bolhovitinov’s Report

“Activity by the Armenian guerilla bands took the form of terrorism. This terror was not only directed at Muslims, but also against Armenians who did not support their cause.”

from Bolhovitinov’s Report

“Motivated by racism, Armenian guerilla bands massacred the Muslim population, without regard to age or gender, exterminating entire villages and pillaging all property.”

from Bolhovitinov’s Report

What happened to 1.5m Ottoman Armenians?

CONCLUSION:

From the beginning of WW1 to 1921, there were 624.900 Armenians in Ottoman Empire, at least 400.000 in Yerevan Armenia and finally at least 40.000 in Iran. Unfortunately we can not conclude as to how many Ottoman Armenians immigrated to South Russia, Georgia, Egypt, Greece, USA or Europe.

However the most certain thing we get out of all these documents is that the Armenian population which was around 1.6 million before WW1 was at least around 1.1 million after WW1.

Quoted from: here

Ankara’s Ambassador to Washington criticizes Obama on Twitter

April 24, 2011 | 12:35

Turkish Ambassador to Washington Namik Tan criticized U.S. President Barack Obama for his annual April 24 address to Armenian people on Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day.

Tan responded Obama on Twitter, labeling U.S. President’s statement inaccurate, flawed and one-sided political characterization of history.

Source: here

US President Barack Obama. AA photo.

Turkey has denounced the U.S. president’s annual statement marking the deaths of Ottoman Armenians in 1915 as “one-sided,” criticizing Barack Obama for issuing the remarks on Turkey’s National Sovereignty day.

"Obama´s statement is one-sided and it reads history from a single perspective,” Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said Sunday.

“I want to remind everyone that the statement was made on the same day that our nation was marking National Sovereignty day and the 91st anniversary of the national Parliament; it would be better if this had been noticed by the American side," the minister Sunday said in northwestern province of Çanakkale, where he was participating in a joint press conference with his New Zealand counterpart, Murray McCully, to mark the 96th anniversary of the Gallipoli Campaign in World War I.

The U.S. president traditionally releases a statement on April 24, “Armenian Remembrance Day,” but Obama chose to issue his statement this year on April 23, which is marked as National Sovereignty and Children’s Day in Turkey.

“It is saddening that each year this issue pops up and casts a shadow on our relations with the United States. Lots of pain was endured in the Ottoman territories during the break-up of the empire. We would have expected Mr. Obama to also remember the sufferings of Turks back in those days,” Davutoğlu said.

Obama on Saturday called the incidents of 1915 in the Ottoman Empire a "great disaster" or "Meds Yeghern" in Armenian – but he did not term them a “genocide,” greatly angering many American-Armenians.

Davutoğlu said Turkey would continue efforts to ensure that its version of the 1915 events would be fairly remembered. “[Obama’s] statement is unfit historically and it is biased."

"We find these remarks that distort historical truths very problematic and we regret them,” the ministry said in a statement released earlier Sunday before Davutoğlu spoke, adding that the president’s statement reflected concerns about U.S. domestic policy.

“Our expectation from the United States is to facilitate a normalization process between Turkey and Armenia, not hamper it."

Source: here

One of the most active Turkish organizations in United Staes, Young Turks held a protest demonstration at Times Square, New York against Armenian genocide allegations on April 24, which Armenians claim that it is anniversary of so called Armenian genocide.

A balanced website:

http://www.armeniangenocidedebate.com/

Turkish historians have been interviewing villagers in Turkey and researching historical archives of the Ottoman Empire for decades. Their investigation currently suggests that the event labeled as the Armenian Genocide is not a genocide as defined by the United Nations.

The Armenians have always supported the idea of a genocide ever since they lost World War I and the Allies did not approve of their requests in the Paris Peace Conference. After the Jews got reparations for the Holocaust from Germany; Armenians formed lobbying groups in many countries and their organizations such as the Armenian Revolutionary Federation stepped up their pressure to convince world governments to recognize the Armenian Genocide.

Once it became politicized (sometimes into a hate campaign) and Turkish historians increasingly found more evidence of Armenian massacres of Turks, the Turkish government decided to deny this alleged genocide because of lack of evidence and because they are the ones with access to the Ottoman archives.

Thus, Armenians claimed that since they deny the genocide, then they must have committed the genocide because they pointed to the psychology of genocide denial that asserts all perpetrators of genocide deny their crime.

In essence, if person A claims you´re a murderer, and you deny that you murdered anyone. Person A then claims that all murderers deny murders, hence you are truly a murderer. This is a logical fallacy called Begging the Question or circular argument.

To top it off, the Turkish government seeing that Armenians are continuing to convince the world without any evidence, decided it was time to allow all world historians to come to the Ottoman archives in Istanbul and learn the history of previous Ottoman governments. Every year more and more historians come out with new books on the subject, rejecting the idea that this was a genocide.

As a result of the Turkish government´s involvement in the debate, Armenians have started a habit of calling anyone who hints at looking for evidence for the Armenian Genocide as "on the Turkish government´s payroll". They have used it against every single author that has suggested that the Armenian Genocide does not qualify as genocide as declared by the United Nations.

In fact, even writers for this website have been attacked on the grounds that they are paid agents of the Turkish government. If this website or any of its researchers were paid by the Turkish government, then wouldn´t we have advertisement all over the web trying to convince you? Yet we don´t have a single ad. We post articles and our research because we are historians and we believe this subject is an important part of history.

We are not motivated by fame, fortune, nationalism, or a paycheck. We are interested in the integrity of history that propagandists on all sides have trampled.

If Armenians make this claim, then cannot Turks make the claim that they are being funded by the Armenian Revolutionary Federation or the Armenian government?

In fact, the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, has an office in Boston! What is a 100 year old terrorist organization doing in the United States? (This is equivalent to Al Qaeda having an office in NATO nation). The ARF is working to use US taxpayer money to send billions of dollars of aid to Armenia and to stop aid to country´s Armenia hates, such as Azerbaijan and Georgia.

What does Armenia do with more than 2 billion dollars of US taxpayer money over the last few decades? Allow Russia to build more Russian airbases, military bases, and batteries inside Armenia and make more trade deals with Iran (their only friendly neighbor). At least the Russians are getting their money´s worth.

As Americans, we dreamed our tax payer money would be used on Americans or at least on allied nations in their times of need that we know would support us when the time comes. Instead we are funding Armenia´s war and propaganda machine.

In 1992, Armenia launched an unprovoked sneak attack against Azerbaijan (a neighbor and a US ally). Wealthy Armenian lobbyists campaigned and the US Congress cut aid to Azerbaijan and increased aid to the aggressor: Armenia.

Instead of assuming--that just because the Turkish government elected by its people, and for decades (with completely contradicting political parties in power over the years) denying this genocide--is lying or guilty; we should do some research.

Perhaps it´s time we focus our attention to Armenia, a country that keeps its historical archives locked from even their own historians--or how about the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, an organization established to destroy the Ottoman Empire that has offices today in Boston, with its own ARF historical archives also locked.

A REVOLUTION IS NECESSARY FOR ARMENIA

The Armenian President has said “reconciliation is impossible before Turkey admits genocide.” He has said that unless Turkey recognises the “Armenian genocide” the rift between the two countries will not close. These are big words indeed. One should pay them the utmost attention.

Before everything else someone should tell Serge Sarkisyan that whatever has happened in 1915, whatever took place before or afterwards is no business of the Armenian state. For what took place then happened within the Ottoman State. There was no Armenia back then. Serge Sarkisyan must be unaware of this fact, for otherwise he would not have made the claims he made.

There are other points. Someone should tell Serge Sarkisyan that one does not practice diplomacy by giving interviews to the Moscow News.

Serge Sarkisyan has told the Moscow News “True reconciliation will only happen when Turkey recognises the Armenian Genocide. Reconciliation is impossible before Turkey admits genocide. To think that repairing ties with Turkey means reconciliation is wrong. True reconciliation will only come after repentance.”

One wishes Sarkisyan would say these during negotiations, summit meetings or at least on the phone with his Turkish counterparts. Serge Sarkisyan continued his statement thus: “Of course we will not die of hunger before relations with Turkey are repaired. We do not see “economic benefit” as the fundamental basis for normalising ties with Turkey. Napoleon had said that the geography of a country determines its history. This is geographic fate...”

Geography may be fate. However lack of knowledge is not fate but a mistake. Where lack of knowledge, low output of knowledge and intellectual incapacity is the case, ignorance becomes fate.

For this reason someone must tell Serge Sarkisyan that the prestige of a state or a statesman is measured in the respect he has for those documents which it has undersigned.  The criterion is not messages of loyalty sent to friendly and allied neighbouring states.

What does Serge Sarkisyan think about those people who do not keep the promises they make? What is his opinion on those people who renounce the signatures they put on documents? Knowing the answers would come in very useful for analysis of the Caucasia.

Source: here

If Armenians have real evidence to prove what they are fabricating
relentlessly against Turkish people and the Democratic Republic of
Turkiye, they should go to an internationally recognized court of
justice, like the World Court, or set up an inquiry of honest,
independent and un-biased experts themselves, or cooperate with the
one proposed by the Turkish government (which is still on the table
with $25 million set aside for it) for such inquiry or just shut up.
Armenians are doing none of it. Just because what they are claiming
are just fabricated anti-Turkish lies and hate propaganda and can not
stand an honest, independent and un-biased scrutiny. Somehow Armenians
think and believe that they can fool all the people all the time. They
should realize, this is not possible anymore. Another and more
important reason why Armenians do not want to resolve this issue is
that the anti-Turkish hate propaganda efforts are a multi-billion
dollar industry for them. They do not want to lose such lucrative
business if the issue is settled.

Really...multi-billion? You seem to get more and more off-track with this issue. How is claiming there was a genocide giving the Armenians income?

Their final aim is to make Turkish Republic recognise it and pay them some multi billion dollars as a result.

There is a genocide industry. Armenins are actively working to pursuit that goal. They publish books, campaign everywhere to make parliaments to pass resolutions recognising "so-called" genocide, collect fees from Armenian community to finance their activities, all sorts of activities.

I opened this thread and then forgot it.  Only thing I will say about this issue we should forgive each other.

Armenians President´s lead to the Armenian Youth

In response to a student’s question concerning future borders of Armenian state and whether the Western Armenia with the Mount Ararat* will ever be united to Eastern Armenia, the president answered that everything depends on the young generation. Every generation has some goal to achieve, he added.

Current generation defended and liberated a part of Armenian land. If the future generation makes much effort then Armenia will be one of the best states in the world. Generally, the power of the state is not defined through its territory. The state should be modern, secure and prosperous. The Armenian people are able to achieve their goal. And they will if they believe, added President Sargsyan.

Turkey said it is “very irresponsible behavior” to make recommendations to youth and future generation that could provoke animosity and ideology of hatred among nations.

The statement said “at a time when peace attempts have intensified in the region, expressions that the Armenian president did not shunned to use signal that he has no intention for peace.”

* A mountain in the territory of the present Turkish Republic

Source: here

Well how about.....

California legislators aid recovery of Armenian assets  for a start?

Turkish PM seeks Armenian apology after Israel

Azerbaijani President İlham Aliyev (R) laughs as he welcomes Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Baku. AA photo

Recent remarks by the Armenian leader about “Western Armenia,” an area now in Turkey, were not suitable for a statesman and president, the Turkish prime minister said Wednesday, demanding an apology.

“The statements of the Armenian president are not an expression or an approach that suits a president. Equipping the next generations with hatred and enmity does not suit statesmanship,” Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said while visiting Azerbaijan.

Source: here

Good Lord, what a nerve!!! I don´t know what the word is for such a thing. It sure is provocative incitement, and certainly an apology is in order. I´m surprised other world leaders have not commented, IMHO they should. 

I´m sure they would if our president had said to the Turkish Youth: "We should get Yerevan* back sometime in the future".

* Yerevan was part of Ottoman empire and it had %20 percent Armenian population back then (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerevan).

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