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Army service in Turkey
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22 Feb 2007 Thu 01:33 pm |
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22 Feb 2007 Thu 01:43 pm |
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Quoting azade: Imho, it's a duty that doesn't belong in a democratic country in 2007. I don't have anything against the service itself, but it's a fact that the Turkish military service is dangerous and extremely tough. My husband knows of three men who committed suicide within the first three months of their service. ALL young Turkish men I know are worried about it and dread the day they will be drafted.
Some of the thigns you have to do in the army are completely rediculous and I just don't see any point. Turkey doesn't even need an army of that size in the first place.
Also, in terms of UNprofessional soldiers stationed to fight terrorists - it is completely irresponsible. It's the same as gambling with their lives, because they are in no way experienced. |
You are not expected to understand it, dont worry And neither you nor i are not the person to decide about the size of Turkish military force...
I dont say that, its all logical or not... But as long as you afraid and make it problem to yourself, you get into trouble this is not only for military service...
And do you know how many turkish YOUTH learn how to write and read in that service????
They get trained! for 3 months which was your husband doing during he was in Samsun then they send to a place to serve their duty...
i wish it wasnt so as i said before but it is what it is... if this country in this state... we ALL the citizens have salt in this... and its UP to us to make it better.. so moaning is nonsense...
I understand you, you are in a worry beacuse of your husband... i wish you patience... hope he comes without a hurt... and you will see he will be much more matured...
dont worry... there wont be a world soon to protect with global warming(which will cause much worse wars) or NASA annouced that in 2029 an astroid will pass near earth and it has %2 chance to hit the earth...
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22 Feb 2007 Thu 01:54 pm |
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I'd give anything to know how he is doing right now.
To Azade
Please KEEP THE FAITH! He will be ok
I hope very soon you have good news.
Stand firm, everything will be good!!!!
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22 Feb 2007 Thu 02:14 pm |
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"They get trained! for 3 months which was your husband doing during he was in Samsun then they send to a place to serve their duty... "
I would like to know is it a general model - to change location after first 3 months? And if location changed is it allowed to use telephones? After first 2 months of serving (when telephones are forbidden) I talked to my friend and it was no problem with tel. Now, already for few days I don't have any connection and I guess maybe they change a location. I wonder what is the rule about telephones when they passed training and go to serve duty?
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22 Feb 2007 Thu 02:20 pm |
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@ Deniz girl,
I think you should realize, that every situation is different. Some guys get a change to have a lot of contact with their beloved ones. Others not.
For example, the first three months of my boyfriends duty I haven't talked to him. After those three months he got 5 days of. Then he went to a different place, where he took a telephone (what is forbidden), later they took it away. He was not allowed to make international calls. Again 3 months later, he is allowed to call me so once in a while. But like I said in the beginning, this is my experience and for everybody it is different.
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22 Feb 2007 Thu 02:28 pm |
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Ambertje, thanks!
I hope so much that you are right and in every situation it is different. Because if it is again for the next 3 months of silence......!!!!!! I even don't want to think about it(((
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22 Feb 2007 Thu 06:13 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris:
You are not expected to understand it, dont worry And neither you nor i are not the person to decide about the size of Turkish military force...
I dont say that, its all logical or not... But as long as you afraid and make it problem to yourself, you get into trouble this is not only for military service...
And do you know how many turkish YOUTH learn how to write and read in that service????
They get trained! for 3 months which was your husband doing during he was in Samsun then they send to a place to serve their duty...
i wish it wasnt so as i said before but it is what it is... if this country in this state... we ALL the citizens have salt in this... and its UP to us to make it better.. so moaning is nonsense...
I understand you, you are in a worry beacuse of your husband... i wish you patience... hope he comes without a hurt... and you will see he will be much more matured...
dont worry... there wont be a world soon to protect with global warming(which will cause much worse wars) or NASA annouced that in 2029 an astroid will pass near earth and it has %2 chance to hit the earth... |
I have not heard of anyone who learnt to read and write there, I think it's pretty rare. They get trained yes - but not well. Mine, for example is now in Tunceli, possibly the most dangerous place to be, and has only tried to shoot 2 times.
And maybe it is what is is now, but any Turk (young or old) I have spoked to about this matter agree that it is time for a change. There is no reason to play with their lives like this, not if Turkey wants to be an actual democratic country. I am pretty well-informed about the military service and it is indeed because of that that I object to it so strongly.
Thanks for your comfort though.
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Deniz girl - thanks for your words. To answer your question, yes. Everyone changes location. The first three months are basic training and the next year they are "stationed" to posts.
Use of telephones vary from place to place. In my case we were able to call eachother via a phone that everyone shared, which means that it was really hard to get through sometimes but I'm starting to think that we were lucky. He's only stayed in Tunceli for a few days now but he's called from a phone with a really strange number (+1 followed by the number) which I can't call. Hopefully they have a normal phone there but sometimes the phones can only be called from, not to.
Ambertje, I find it really strange that he was not allowed to use international calls because the it's him who pay for it, not the army base. That's just another example of how discriminating they are.
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22 Feb 2007 Thu 06:22 pm |
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my fiance had the time when he couldnt use the phone but after that he had two weeks leave and i went to spend time with him.....he didnt like to talk about it much but he showed me some pictures and he's always telling me he will tell me everything when we are together again. those two weeks made it so much easier but in a way harder because it made me miss him more! but its been 7months now and i can't wait to be with him again!
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 11:42 am |
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[QUOTE SOURCE=azade He's only stayed in Tunceli for a few days now but he's called from a phone with a really strange number (+1 followed by the number) which I can't call. "
to Azade
I'm so happy for you that he called you and now you know that he is ok!!! Yes, it is a pitty that you cann't call this number back..they keep this information in secret as far as I understand.
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 12:01 pm |
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I can not reach my friend on telephone for 6 days already. I'm sure they changed location. I need to know that he will be allowed to use his mobile (and unfortunately I'm not sure about it at all (( I can not call him and it makes me feel so.....Soon he will have his birhday. I need to hear his voice. I can't even imagine if it will be impossible..
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 12:09 pm |
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Quoting Deniz girl: I can not reach my friend on telephone for 6 days already. I'm sure they changed location. I need to know that he will be allowed to use his mobile (and unfortunately I'm not sure about it at all(( I can not call him and it makes me feel so.....Soon he will have his birhday. I need to hear his voice. I can't even imagine if it will be impossible.. |
I know exactly how you feel. I couldn't speak with my boyfriend on his birthday and 2 weeks later he couldn't call me for my birthday. But remember better times will come, also for you.
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