Would you tell me about the army service in Turkey?

Military service is not compulsory. One can, if so desired, avoid it.

Military service is an honorable duty and a birthright for all Turkish males.

it is compulsory..
u cant avoid it...

You can, if you are ready to lose other things with it....

I remember when military service was compulsory in Britain there were ways and means of avoiding it especially if you had plenty of "means"

Thanks, Kadir.

no, you can get away by losing your citizenship..

The Code of Citizenship changed..according to the new article if someone refuse to compulsory military service he doesnt lose his citizenship..the goverment made it for EU..by the way It is not benefit of Turkey, of course according to my opinion..

let everything aside its would be very unfair if everyone does and you dont..and like all turkish male i ll join the army..its not only a society but also a kind of education centre...in many villages nobody let their girls marry with the guys who has not join the army yet

maybe after the army my daddy let me maryy hahah this means i have at least three years hehe

btw i ll run with my girl soon if my daddy dont let me to marry rebel ramayan

my girl wait me
i cant stand till the end of the military service

Well İ am definitely in no hurry to get married (again) İ tried it twice already and it aint that great in my opinion! But Ramayan if you ask me maybe İ will change my mind!

Hey Folks!
Here is Turkish Language Class, not English Class!!
Why is everybody speaking&writing in English, including myself?

I was avoiding from Turkish military service.now Im in military service in Ankara,and Im happy to be in the service.and my friends are in the eastern,they all think same with me.Im proud of being a member of turkish Army even for a short time...this is compulsory but they have to be in the army when they reach enough age...

delilik ya delilik

back to the topic...

i have heard that it is no longer compulsory to do the military in turkey.
i think that some people didnt do it and they were not searched for afterwards, yani, they were just let off. im guessing this means anyone can get away with it...?

This is impossible. Sooner or later they will catch those people. On every occasion Turkish men are asked to prove their military status. If you haven't done it, then you can never travel abroad, you can never register to a university and you will find it very difficult to find an employer who doesn't question your military service status.

The army is very strict on following their regulations, even more strict than I am on following our forum rules.

all turkish guys must do this job when he is in 20 years old.but if he is educate in anywhere he can join military service after education. military service is very important in turkish culture

It is compulsory duty but Im proud of being a part of turkish military service even for a short time.

these are true.It is impossible to travel abroud if you didnt complete this duty.I was afraid to be captured at airport coz of the my situationcoz had got reached to age which have to be done itnow Im in military service and happy to do it.escaping from the army is not solution.the best solutios is finishing it..

oh, lapinkulta
u r my hero now. sometimes i thank God im not a male

This is really problem for men in Turkey..We must do but when??Not now...

i think the national service is a bad thing, two of my very good friends both had very bad expiriences in the army, one went to sleep one night and awoke to find 9 of his comrades dead, throats slit in their sleep, and another was imprisoned and beaten severely whilst he was there, the whipping scars on his back and chest make my skin crawl to think what hes been through, my best friends boyfriend was a sniper in the army and he is not mentally normal now, my friend yilmaz goes in three weeks an i dread to thik what will happen to him.

well the title to this forum is army services in turkiye so i thought id just spread my happiness in the fact that my fiance has just finished his national service and is home safe with his family and planning his journy to come meet with me in march im happppppppppyyyyyy !! hehe

Congratulations!!

That must feel very good!!! I hope you can see each other in march!

My heart goes out to you, Jannie! Hang in there!

And mine too canım.. İ Know what it's like to lose some-one during army service. My Best friend lost his brother last year and İ was there to offer support and comfort.

my fiance was situated in hakkari for a while which was bad and at one point he was close to the border of iraq! it was when he was there he rang me one night and he cried on the phone saying how much he hated it but i told him to be strong and when he finished i would be there waiting for him......which i am! i am just waiting, i have my tickets and i am so excited to see him again!!!! i just know that when i see him again nothing will be able to take the smile off my face hehe!!

First of all, i wish patience to all people who are waiting people serving their military service...


but i dont understand the moan, and your trying to understand the meaning of military service... its just a duty for the Turkish citizens... its a must... you all talk and judge about with your OWN norms... not with Turkey's norms and conditions...

it would be nice if it was depending on people's desire, and if it was paid... but its not... so better keep your energy for praying good...

My boyfriend has to do his duty in Sirnak. He is there now for 6 months, he has been in Antalya first.
Well, still 6 months left before he finished his duty. Luckely he doesn't go out for operations very often so I am very glad. Because Sirnak is also very close to the boarder of Iraq..

I'd give anything to know how he is doing right now.

To Azade
Please KEEP THE FAITH! He will be ok
I hope very soon you have good news.
Stand firm, everything will be good!!!!

"They get trained! for 3 months which was your husband doing during he was in Samsun then they send to a place to serve their duty... "

I would like to know is it a general model - to change location after first 3 months? And if location changed is it allowed to use telephones? After first 2 months of serving (when telephones are forbidden) I talked to my friend and it was no problem with tel. Now, already for few days I don't have any connection and I guess maybe they change a location. I wonder what is the rule about telephones when they passed training and go to serve duty?

@ Deniz girl,

I think you should realize, that every situation is different. Some guys get a change to have a lot of contact with their beloved ones. Others not.
For example, the first three months of my boyfriends duty I haven't talked to him. After those three months he got 5 days of. Then he went to a different place, where he took a telephone (what is forbidden), later they took it away. He was not allowed to make international calls. Again 3 months later, he is allowed to call me so once in a while. But like I said in the beginning, this is my experience and for everybody it is different.

Ambertje, thanks!
I hope so much that you are right and in every situation it is different. Because if it is again for the next 3 months of silence......!!!!!! I even don't want to think about it(((

my fiance had the time when he couldnt use the phone but after that he had two weeks leave and i went to spend time with him.....he didnt like to talk about it much but he showed me some pictures and he's always telling me he will tell me everything when we are together again. those two weeks made it so much easier but in a way harder because it made me miss him more! but its been 7months now and i can't wait to be with him again!

[QUOTE SOURCE=azade He's only stayed in Tunceli for a few days now but he's called from a phone with a really strange number (+1 followed by the number) which I can't call. "

to Azade
I'm so happy for you that he called you and now you know that he is ok!!! Yes, it is a pitty that you cann't call this number back..they keep this information in secret as far as I understand.

I can not reach my friend on telephone for 6 days already. I'm sure they changed location. I need to know that he will be allowed to use his mobile (and unfortunately I'm not sure about it at all(( I can not call him and it makes me feel so.....Soon he will have his birhday. I need to hear his voice. I can't even imagine if it will be impossible..

Ambertje,because of your experience you really understand what I feel.. It is so sad not to have possibility to to talk to each other on birthdays.. I still have hope that till that day situation will change. I hope maybe nearest time they will have possibility for time-off ( I even don't talk about days off). In our army it is like that ( though, I understand it is nod right comparison).
Thank you very much for your support words!! I do strongly beleive that everything will be ok! but for me it is only a question of patience and it is pretty hard.
Teşekkür ederim, Ambertje.

Birsey degil canim.

I hope everything will become good for you and that you will talk to him anytime soon.
Of course we can be sad sometime because it is diffucult not talking with the one you love. But I am always trying to say this to myself. For him it is much more difficult than for me. I am here with people who love me, who can help me through difficult times. He is there all by himself, no family, no one who loves him. He can also not speak to you when he wants to. So be strong and wait in patience for the day you will here from him.

Ambertje, you are great! thank you so much for reminding me how much we are in different situations with our beloved soldiers....because really sometimes I don't think about it. well, sometimes I am selfish. I think only how much I missed him. But yes, you are right. Conditions which his stays in is more difficult..really, I have people who support me..but him..he takes everything alone. Yes, I must be strong and patient. From all my heart wish you the same.
Let's not cry, girls)))Just let's beleive and keep our faith.
Ambertje, teşekkürler

It is really hard. All you can do is support eachother and be patient and hope the waiting time will end as quickly as possible.

This is really awkard though. I don't know how I will handle it if I can't call him. It was relatively easy when he was in Samsun because the fact that I would be able to reach him if I needed to calmed me down. Anyway he's not really settled there yet, maybe they have a normal phone that I can call. We are married and used to live together so it's unnatural that we can't talk now. I don't understand how they're allowed to prevent communication with loved ones. The soldiers are also human, not machines for **** sake. Maybe if the military authorities understood that, the suicide rate would go down.

Thank you for your words Deniz girl, you are right about what you say.

I know Tunceli is a small and poor province but come on they don't even have a bank for him to go to get some money, and I can't call the mobile someone smuggled in because there is no Telsim signal in the Tunceli mountains! Maybe I'm whining but this can't be happening in the year of 2007

A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defence than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.
~Martin Luther King ~

here I am..under the same situation waiting for X to come back from the military..three more months to go until he gets done with all this ..I pray God for him and all the ones who are now serving the military..

Ladies, did you already heard something from your beloved ones?

We are here for each other. Take care! Let us know when you have some news!

Always keep a positive spirit and remember what situation your loved ones are in. I'm sure it's very hard for them not being allowed to call you as well. They wouldn't refer from calling you if they had a choice.

I have spoken to my husband a few times now but it's certaintly not easy. We were supposed to attend his niece's marriage in June or July but he's been told that he can't have a holiday for the next nine months, their excuse being that it's too hard to travel to and from Tunceli. He won't even be haing any afternoons off because he's staying in a small town. Everything is just so hard right now and I'm trying my best to keep a positive spirit for him, because when it all comes down to it's him who's in the army, not me. At least I have the freedom to go outside and take a walk when I want. He's trying to be strong as well but I can hear in his voice that it's really hard for him. He's very close to his niece and was looking forward to attending her marriage party (she's going to live in another city as well) and apparently we won't be seeing eachother for nine months. I cannot even begin to imagine what it will be like. We have basically been inseparable for three years.
We have been joking about running off to Somalia and I'm starting to think it isn't a bad idea.

Sorry if I'm rambling too much. It's just that there's not really anyone around here who understands our situation.

Merhaba
I am wondering a few things about the Turkish military. My fiance just proposed to me and then said he must go into the Turkish Army. We decided that i will get pregnant now and stay in the U.S. until he gets home. How long does it usually take for men to complete their service? He says 1-5 years. And also, is there any kind of warfare or potentially dangerous situations that are happening within the turkish army right now? Any info would be great!!! Thanks.

Well, haha heres another thing that might strike your fancy. I'm 15 and he's 27... yeah. Please don't tell me I'm stupid, I don't need that. I was simply wondering how bad things are around there. We might decide not to have a baby right now but thats not what I'm asking about, I'm asking about the consitions of the Turkish Army at this time. Thank you.

Yes, you are right but I also believe love does not have age boundaries. That is why he is my fiance because i have about two more years (I'm almost 16) until I can get married without parental consent. Until then, he is going off to the army and I am not sure if he its a lunapark or not. Don't worry we are both aware of the consequences. Any more information would be great! Thanks

Hi Just looking to find a little bit about the army and i was wondering could anybody tell me what way it works ,,and do turkish men get much notice to them letting them no when they will do ..could you give me some information thanks..

To Azade: it is interesting but I faced to the same situation as you discribed here - he can call me but when I try to call him on the same number I just don't get any connection. The number is really strange. And I understand that it's a tel. only be called from. Thanks that you said about it before. At least I'm not so amazed and confused about it
By the way, maybe you know what is the schedule during day they have? (I mean regulations - time of waking up, going to bad etc.)Or it can be various? I think in army it is some certain time when day is started and finished..
do you know something about it?
[/QUOTE Azade]
Use of telephones vary from place to place. In my case we were able to call eachother via a phone that everyone shared, which means that it was really hard to get through sometimes but I'm starting to think that we were lucky. He's only stayed in Tunceli for a few days now but he's called from a phone with a really strange number (+1 followed by the number) which I can't call. Hopefully they have a normal phone there but sometimes the phones can only be called from, not to."

Sorry for bothering you guys with this. But my boyfriend is on a mission for 10 days in Sirnak. And now I am really worried that something has happend with hem. I read on the internet that again two soldiers died in Sirnak this week. I don't know what to do. The only thing I can do is wait with the hope that I hear something from him any time soon...

Sorry to hear that
Do you have contact with his family? Surely they would know what's going on there.
Is he normally stationed in şirnak?

Yes I have contact with his family. Not daily. But if there was something wrong I think they would call me.
Yes he is stationed in Sirnak. And normally he doesn't go on operation that often, but like you know, everything is messed up over there again. So he was sent also.

I understand you worry because I also do that constantly but there's really not much to do. We can just try to keep their morale up and make sure they know what is waiting when they come back. And make dûa

Hello,

I know there has been a lot of chat about the army but i was just wondering if i am correct about the boys that go to turkish army that you can not call them for the first 3 months but they can call you?? Also do they get 30 days holiday? but only find out maybe 2 weeks before when they can take them?

Sorry one more...

Someone i know is going to the army in afyon/emirda??
Does anyone any information about this one??

Thanks in advance for your help?

sneaky little devils

yavrummx, he is cheating and using you to become a us. citizen. First of all if he has college degree it takes just 8 months. İf he has not, 15 months and thats the longest he can do! Whats with 5 years? he is planning to avoid worst years of raising a child, squeeze some money out of you ( ı am not coming baby, coz ı dont have any money) stay away from that man and listen to your parents before its too late!

thank you for your concern, but he has absolutely no desire to be a U.S. citizen. i will be living in turkey with him.

rrrr bless her love is love!! Everyone is just worried about you hun, its an early age to think about anything serious, we just dont want you to regret anything in later live!! My cousin is 16 and really really not mature enough to do much really!! (but everyones different i think)

Oh my God, my man has just gone to the army today in afyon??

Roll on 15 Months i cant wait until he gets out already!! Its going to be tough but i need to remember i am not the one going he is!! Think that the worst bit is going to be the 3 months with no contract!! Just thought i would share my feelings, all them girls out there that there men are going to the army be brave im sure it will soon pass!!!