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letter to my askim. Please help with translation...Thank you.
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 02:42 pm |
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Quoting Myra: Christine - keep this man on his toes and inform him that u do go to chat rooms. Since i started going to chat rooms my boyfriend gives me more attention as he is worried i may meet someone else. I know he visits chat rooms also - but he is not enjoying it so much anymore !! he he
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myra, its not christine who is forbiden to enter the chat rooms! its asiaprincess!
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 02:47 pm |
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Quoting Myra: Christine - keep this man on his toes and inform him that u do go to chat rooms. Since i started going to chat rooms my boyfriend gives me more attention as he is worried i may meet someone else. I know he visits chat rooms also - but he is not enjoying it so much anymore !! he he
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actually, i forgot to tell u, myra, this is a bad advise!
the only good thing is just to be honest and be urself!
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 03:53 pm |
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yeah, deli kizin, u r right, its ur choice.
i know, what is love for far, since i married a man from far. this was not a good argument.
its all up to u girls!
let me tell u one thing, dear, i give no support to such behavour be it turkish or european! nothing can justify such attitude towards women. i give no f... to the cultural and religous background. i hate those subtleties dictated by the traditions and massive mentalities. maybe too much freedom in holland made u bored and u look for the tough rules?
the stereotypes (on turks) that hang around dutch ppl, u think is on no basic? u think turks r holy and dutch r bad liers?
and, thank u very much for ur welcome!
it says nothing to me if they all know u from this website, and if u stick around here longer than me.
i just come here and say what i think, no matter if im supported by others or not. i dont care.
human rights, freedom!
NO to primitive mentality!
thats all me - kazpol
with love
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 03:54 pm |
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Wow, I received many interesting comments especially by you Yesterday. The situation is complicating. First of and foremost, I do have a mind of my own! If I don't agree with my boyfriend, I do let him know. I could understand why my boyfriend feels the way he do. If you were in his shoes, maybe you would too. The story is too long...The chatroom that I am referring to is not the chatroom here!!! I welcome your comments but I think you are too quick to judge and you are rather cold!
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 04:03 pm |
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 04:17 pm |
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 06:00 pm |
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Quoting asiaprincess: Mltm, thank you very much for the translation. For a moment there, I didn't think anyone was going to translate for me because I've been asking for a lot of translation lately. Sorry members...... :- Thanks goodness you helped me. -) |
Oh, sorry asia. I had thought that phrase was metaphorical and I translated it as not entering the subject again. I just changed it. It's the sentence in bold. If you already sent it, you can send just that sentence to him. Sorry...I didn't guess you talked about chat.
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 06:30 pm |
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Quoting asiaprincess: Wow, I received many interesting comments especially by you Yesterday. The situation is complicating. First of and foremost, I do have a mind of my own! If I don't agree with my boyfriend, I do let him know. I could understand why my boyfriend feels the way he do. If you were in his shoes, maybe you would too. The story is too long...The chatroom that I am referring to is not the chatroom here!!! I welcome your comments but I think you are too quick to judge and you are rather cold! |
asiaprincess,
right, im cold. think and say whatever on my subject. telling all these not easy words i didnt mean to hurt u, its not my point. anyway,
i wish u, young girls, the best! good luck!
asian-muslim guys are not easy! u never know when it is YES, when it is NO! there are lots of SIGNS, SUGGESTIONS, UNSAID WORDS, GESTURES mixed with unknown local culture. u say u understand ur bf, or u try to understand, but does he understand u? does he try to understand u? or does he consider u as a spoiled blond sweet baby that needs to be under a control? i have no idea on ur love situation. its just pity to read it. do i judge u? on what? its so pity to hear u promise ur bf a thing which is not bad. there will be no justification for the evil behavour just coz of culture, religion or gender.
i will never accept any discrimination.
and dear ladies, why so less of turkish women in the internet, in chat rooms? we see only (as gokhan says horney turks) turkish males. i know only a few turkish girls like mltm(mltm is actually half french). so, whats wrong with turkish women?
well, girls, u have agreed to have jealous men and u love them. all i can say is just i admire ur courage!
not my business, thanks for the discussion!
eot!
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 07:14 pm |
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Quoting yesterday: yeah, deli kizin, u r right, its ur choice.
i know, what is love for far, since i married a man from far. this was not a good argument. |
Actually this comment 'yeah ur right its ur choice' means 'whatever, i dont care what u think'. And asking you if you have a far away love was NOT an argument, i was just wondering where you got these stricts thoughts of primitism from, because i notice them among people who do have a far-away-eastern love and i do not wish to be part of it.
Quoting yesterday:
its all up to u girls!
let me tell u one thing, dear, i give no support to such behavour be it turkish or european! nothing can justify such attitude towards women. i give no f... to the cultural and religous background. i hate those subtleties dictated by the traditions and massive mentalities. maybe too much freedom in holland made u bored and u look for the tough rules?
the stereotypes (on turks) that hang around dutch ppl, u think is on no basic? u think turks r holy and dutch r bad liers?
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Secondly, I never said that the fact that jealousy is quite common among turkish men, also Justifies their behavior. And you just used a huge stereotypical view of Holland by telling me there is too much freedom. The freedom in this country is pretty fine if you ask me. And if you really think that I think that Dutch people are bad liars and that Turkish people are holy, think twice please. The stereotypes that Dutch people have are based upon the Turkish people living in Holland. I don't think any proud Turk who lives in Türkiye, would be proud of the kind of people that live in Holland. No offense, I wont label everybody, but it is a fact that the feeling of being torn apart between the Turkish traditions and the Dutch free life, is breaking down in many Turkish families. So the stereotypes that are amogn Turks here, are mistaken with the people that live in Türkiye itself. And I know each stereotype has its basis and that they are all based upon true facts. But we mustn't forget how things can grow and change into a negative direction we never meant to.
Quoting yesterday: and, thank u very much for ur welcome!
it says nothing to me if they all know u from this website, and if u stick around here longer than me.
i just come here and say what i think, no matter if im supported by others or not. i dont care. |
I meant the welcome to be a warm welcome like we usually say to all new people. I thought you were new and to new people I say welcome. Just like i say 'goodnight' to the ones I know when they go offline.
You don't care if you are supported and you don't care about religious backgrounds either. But on the other hand you say you like to meet people from other cultures? That is impossible if you don't care about backgrounds.
Quoting yesterday:
human rights, freedom!
NO to primitive mentality! |
Well I'm glad we do agree at least about that point. But your post seemed to me as a 'girlpower' post, no matter what the arguments were, as long as women don't get suppressed. I was just giving you my point of view and you reacted upon me as if i was stupid. I didn't mean to get to such a discussion.
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 07:16 pm |
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Yes, my boyfriend has and do try to understand me. Some things I do, he does not like and he knows this. No relationship is perfect. But there is an understanding between us and yes, you did judged me. At least I thought so. You talked about there are women that likes to be under a man's control and that they have no mind of their own. They are not able to think at all; they are dull and colorless and..so forth. I know you didn't mention my name when you posted these comments but what is a girl to think other than this person (Yesterday) is probalbly talking about me. Sorry if I misunderstood you but I strongly felt that you were insinuating that I was submissive, dull and colorless which is very far from the truth!!!!
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11 Jun 2006 Sun 08:07 pm |
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oops! girls, not eot! i came back!
asiaprincess,
the example i gave before, i posted it purposely, i pretended i talked to christine, but i was talking to u. indeed i met such women and wanted u to avoid such marriage, coz ur letter to ur bf gives me such idea.
this is the only subject i guess that turns me on, wherever im i do react this way. ur letter gives an example to other young not mature girls, actually not good example. u say u r not submissive but, honey, u totally obey ur bf, at least ur letters say so.
i dont remember well, but were u girls talking about relatives somewhere in turkia talking bad on u? gossiping on u? why? thats how it works in tight family relationships. my aunts would also gossip on me, but i put the end, i cut the relationships, its better to cut than suffer from toxic and ill so called 'wonderful family' realtions.
maybe im too much different from u.
and how does it work, how can u develop ur relationships if he doesnt speak english and u turkish? can u love without knowing the language?
yes, dear asiaprincess, i heard a lot from many ppl that im cruel, harsh etc. it doesnt matter so much.
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