oops! girls, not eot! i came back!
asiaprincess,
the example i gave before, i posted it purposely, i pretended i talked to christine, but i was talking to u. indeed i met such women and wanted u to avoid such marriage, coz ur letter to ur bf gives me such idea.
this is the only subject i guess that turns me on, wherever im i do react this way. ur letter gives an example to other young not mature girls, actually not good example. u say u r not submissive but, honey, u totally obey ur bf, at least ur letters say so.

i dont remember well, but were u girls talking about relatives somewhere in turkia talking bad on u? gossiping on u? why? thats how it works in tight family relationships. my aunts would also gossip on me, but i put the end, i cut the relationships, its better to cut than suffer from toxic and ill so called 'wonderful family' realtions.

maybe im too much different from u.
and how does it work, how can u develop ur relationships if he doesnt speak english and u turkish? can u love without knowing the language?

yes, dear asiaprincess, i heard a lot from many ppl that im cruel, harsh etc. it doesnt matter so much.

deli kizin, so what that i dont accept ppl's religous background and still meet ppl? do u see any problem here? i probably meet and talk those who are free from their religous culture. slaves have no their own lifes, thus have no their own points, they live within a scheme called a tradition.
i may sound like a powergirl, but u try to sound like a mature woman which sounds false, sweety.

Wow I've been typing kilometers. I'm obviously a bit bored in my holidays.

Let me quit by saying that i think that putting two extremes against each other all the time and leaving no space for either progress or a different situation, that is primitive. Maybe believe in a man who forbids you to enter chatrooms is naive, but believing that the girl who would listen to that is dull and colorless is naive too. We will see how the lovestory of Asiaprincess will follow. You should just not loose yourself in it, Asiaprincess. If a man takes over all the control in a relationship, 'you' are gone. But what is 'us' in a relaitonship worth, if 'you' no longer exist as an individual?

The weather is way too hot here to worry about these. I just hope it all ends well!

Oh and Aenigma.. I agree with what you said too.. there's a saying in Holland of which I'm sure it's universal:

Wat u niet wil dat u geschiedt, doe dat ook een ander niet
What you don't want to happen to yourself, don't do that to someone else either

deli kizin
this is an answer to ur question in pm, just wanted everybody to view it.
im from south kazakstan, married a pole, livin in katolandia-polandia. does it matter? being from a central asia gives me a wider viewpoint on muslim ppl. livin in polandia gives me more knowledge on europeans.
u r too much fascinated about the new country: tea ceremonies, customs relationships between elders and youngsters!
remember one thing: by encouraging those traditions u support their lifestyle where the women have 'no space' as u say. how come those turkish-muslim women avoid this kinda subjects? how many turkish women r on net? is it comparable to the number of dutch women? u see some turkish women and think all of them r allowed to be in net?
dont ever justify the islam! yes, i have a problem with religions (as well as traditions), i have mentioned it before. but u sound u have a problem with me.
i dont care for mini skirts, i dont see a problem in wearing long ones, hahaha, but, honey, u r gradually in the tradition, it starts up with a mini-skirt and ends up somewhere else. why cant u go a bit far in ur thinking?
yes i often use the super cool smile, dont u like?

goodnite, deli kizin