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05 Mar 2012 Mon 03:04 pm |
I wouldn´t call them (those who smoke) wise men.
Here is a short list of foolish people
Oscar Wilde
Jean-paul Sartre
Mark Twain
Albert Camus
Günter Grass
Bertolt Brecht
Sigmund Freud
John F. Kennedy
Pablo Picasso
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05 Mar 2012 Mon 03:42 pm |
I dislike all these men, esp. Freud.
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05 Mar 2012 Mon 05:53 pm |
Fame Struck Down By Nicotine Dependency
Luiz Jose Costa, 36, Brazilian music star * lung cancer |
Wilhelmina Cooper, 40, modeling pioneer * lung cancer |
Eric Carr, 41, musician (Kiss drummer) * heart and lung cancer |
Judy Holliday, 43, actress * throat cancer
John Cipollina, 45, guitarist * emphysema |
Nancy Gore Hunger, 46, sister of V.P. Al Gore * lung cancer |
Lon Chaney, 47, actor/director * lung cancer |
Mary Wells, 49, singer ("My Guy") * larynx cancer |
Jack Cassidy, 50, actor * died in a fire from smoking in bed |
Errol Flynn, 50, actor * heart attack |
Roger Maris, 51, baseball player (N.Y. Yankees) * lung cancer |
Robert Shaw, 51, actor (Jaws) * heart attack |
Rod Serling, 51, director (Twilight Zone) heavy smoker * heart disease |
Carl Wilson, 51, musician (Beach Boys) * lung cancer |
Lloyd Haynes, 52, TV actor (General Hospital) * lung cancer |
Eddie Kendrick, 52, singer (Temptations) * lung cancer |
Roy Orbison, 52, singer ("Pretty Woman") * heart attack |
Jimmy Dorsey, 53, musician, band leader * lung cancer |
Lindley ("Spike") Jones, 53, band leader * emphysema |
Babe Ruth, 53, baseball player * oral cancer |
William Talman, 53, actor (Perry Mason´s adversary) * lung cancer |
Jack Wild, 53, actor (Artful Dodger in Oliver) * mouth cancer |
Mark Belanger, 54, baseball shortstop Orioles * lung cancer |
Michael Landon, 54, actor - heavy smoker * pancreas and liver cancer |
Susan Hayward, 55, actress * lung cancer |
Lee Remick, 55, actress * lung and liver cancer |
Ian Fleming, 56, James Bond creator * heart attack |
King George VI, 56, Father of Queen Elizabeth II * lung cancer |
Betty Grable, 56, "pin-up" girl, actress * lung cancer |
Doug McLure, 56, TV actor (The Virginian) * lung cancer |
Eddie Rabbitt, 56, singer/song writer * lung cancer |
Patrick Swayze , 57, actor ("Dirty Dancing" "Ghost") * pancreatic cancer |
Humphrey Bogart, 57, actor ("Casablanca") * esophagus cancer |
Wolfman Jack, 57, music disk jockey * heart attack |
Edward R. Murrow, 57, reporter * lung cancer |
Will Thornbury, 57, modeled for Camel TV ads * lung cancer |
George Harrison, 58, musician (The Beatles) * lung cancer |
R.J. Reynolds, 58, tobacco company founder * emphysema |
R.J. Reynolds, III, 59, tobacco company heir * emphysema |
Clark Gable, 59, actor ("Gone With The Wind") * heart attack |
Anne Ramsey, 59, actress (Goonies - Mama Fratelli) * throat cancer |
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05 Mar 2012 Mon 05:57 pm |
for those that read these posts and the lightbulb turns on there is help even on the internet
http://whyquit.com/ffn/index.html
http://lung.ca/protect-protegez/tobacco-tabagisme/stories-histoires/people-gens_e.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_cessation
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05 Mar 2012 Mon 08:19 pm |
I dislike all these men, esp. Freud.
Lemon, I am not surprised that you don´t like "all these men".. as she liked your message it is clear that so does acute I am happy that you two finally became friends This is the power of smoke! This reminds me of a Turkish saying that may apply to this new friendship: Hacı hacıyı mekke´de, hoca hocayı tekkede, bok boku kenefte bulur". It says "for muslim pilgrims what is more normal than to meet each other in Mecca.." and so on I wish this "fraternity of the enemies of smoke" last forever. Amen!
Of course you two have the right of disliking "all these men". But it´s not the issue I am discussing. Just tell me do you think "all these men" are wise or foolish? If you think they are foolish, I will recommend you to visit a psychologist. But make sure that this psychologist is not a psychoanalyst.
When I was a smoker the thing that I never understood, and was mad at of course, was those idiots that they thought they took care of me more than I did When it is free people take care of others..but I bet they wouldn´t have given me a ´sou´ if I had starved from hunger. Do you think they would have?
And last words.. probably even your own grand grandsons won´t know your names but "all these men" you dislike will be there shining till the doomsday.
I like them all.. esp. ATATÜRK
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05 Mar 2012 Mon 08:48 pm |
When I was a smoker the thing that I never understood, and was mad at of course, was those idiots that they thought they took care of me more than I did When it is free people take care of others..but I bet they wouldn´t have given me a ´sou´ if I had starved from hunger. Do you think they would have?
And last words.. probably even your own grand grandsons won´t know your names but "all these men" you dislike will be there shining till the doomsday.
I like them all.. esp. ATATÜRK
but than again you were a smoker .........your mind was already poisoned.
As far as those particular people they went down in history the same way many mass murderors and movies stars etc... did. Actually nothing special about them nothing extraordinary - just in the right place at the right time but they should not be revered. All of them had dark spots and secrets too. You can find this also on internet.
Scalpel , no one who has written here about the harm with cigarette smoking has been trying to sell a particular product or health service. They are the true victum of others who are stupid enough to smoke. They are the witness´s to something not so great.... Don´t make a joke about smoking.
In all honesty no one can deny the dangers of smoking it has been known . As early as the Seventeenth Century, the European countries realized the dangers of smoking and fought against it Laws were ordained in England, Russia, Denmark, Sweden, Austria, and other countries, prohibiting smoking and punishing violators.
Smoking was introduced to the Muslim countries by the Europeans around 1000 AH. Its spread among the Muslims was similar to that in the West. The unfortunate fact, however, is that in the Muslim countries, no similar measures were exerted to protect the people from it. To the contrary, the media continues to adom smoking and encourage people to do it. This caused the epidemic of smoking to continue to spread in those countries to such an extent that it has become hard to control.
Smoking has become the rule, and abstaining from it the exception. Often, people look with astonishment and disdain at a person who when a cigarette is offered to him, declines to smoke explaining that he does not smoke.
Offering cigaretles to the guests has become among the first rules of hospitality. Anyone who does not offer them to his guests or insist on them to smoke would be violating the ethics of hospitality and generosity!
Furthermore, some of those who pretend to represent the Deen are among the worst addicts to smoking. When they are reproached or reminded of their vice, they respond by providing weak excuses to justify it in the name of Islaam. They slyly remark that there is no clear text prohibiting smoking. Therefore, they conclude, smoking is not prohibited, but is only makruh (disliked). By this, they provide a poor excuse for the ignorant, and establish a very bad example for others.
Many Muslims have been influenced by such statements, falling into the snares of addiction to smoking. This is observed all over the world. A striking example is that all American airlines now prohibit smoking, even on most international flights; on the other hand, for Muslim airlines, one travels in a near-suffocation state, even on short trips, because of the high number of smokers.
Thus, it becomes incumbent to write an article which provides evidence concerning the ruling of smoking in Islam. We hope that this will benefit our Muslim brothers and sisters; and we ask Allah (T) to accept it from us as a sincere deed for His pleasure.
Haram To The Deen
Smoking spoils a person´s acts of worship and reduces their rewards. For instance, it spoils the prayer, which is the pillar of Deen. Allah´s Messenger said: Whoever eats garlic or onion, let him avoid us and our masjid, and stay in his home. The angels are surely hurt by things that hurt the human beings(1)
Those with clean and undefiled fitrah (nature) have no doubt that the smell emanating from the mouth of a smoker is worse and more foul than that from the mouth of one who ate garlic or onion. Thus, a smoker is in between two options, either to harm the praying people and the angels with his foul smell, or miss the prayer in jama´ah.
Smoking also spoils fasting. Fasting is very hard for the smoker. As soon as the day is over, he hastens to break his fast on an evil cigarette instead of sweet dates or pure water. Even if he fasts through the month Ramadan, a smoker is reluctant to fast on other days. Thus he loses the great reward of those who fast even one day in Allah´s way.
Harm To The Human Body
No one can deny the harm of smoking to the human body. The medical evidence for this is well established and overwhelming. Because of this, the law in the United States and many other countries requires including a warning on any smoking advertisement.
Smoking contains poisonous materials, such as nicotine, tar, carbon monoxide, arsenic, benzopyrene, etc., that the smoker swallows in small proportions. Their harm accumulates with time to result in a gradual killing of the human organs and tissues.
The hazards of smoking to the health are hard to enumerate. Cancer, tuberculosis, heart attacks, asthma, coughing, premature birth, infertility, infections in the digestive system, high blood pressure, nervousness, mouth and teeth diseases, etc., are among the many health hazards that have been strongly linked to smoking.
These diseases may not appear all at once, however a smoker is most likely to suffer from some of them, and his suffering increases as he grows older. Furthermore, statistics have established that smokers´ age is, on the average, ten years less than other people´s.
This is aufficient to prohibit smoking. Islam prohibits any action that causes harm to oneself or to other people. Allah (T) says (what means):
<<Do not kill yourselves, Allah is indeed merciful to you.>
<<Do not cast yourselves, with your own hands, into destruction.>
And the Messenger says: No harm may be inflicted on oneself or others.
The feet of a human being will not depart, on the day of Judgement, from his standing before his Lord, until he is questioned about five things: his lifetime - how did he pass it, his youth - how did he used it, his wealth - where did he earn it and how did he spend it, and how did he follow what he knew.(5)
Whoever consumes poison, killing himself with it, then he will he consuming his poison in the hellfire, and he will abide in it permanently and eternally.(6)
<<And do not waste (your resources) extravagantly. Indeed the squanderers are the brethren of the devils>>(11)
And the Prophet () said: Allah hates for you three things: gossiping, begging, and wasting money.(12)
the list goes on..............
Edited (3/5/2012) by acute
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05 Mar 2012 Mon 09:46 pm |
In 2008, legislation was introduced banning smoking in taxis, shopping centers, and large-scale workplaces. The prohibition went surprisingly smoothly. On July 19, phase two of the ban took effect, prohibiting smoking in restaurants, bars and cafes. The move brought Turkey into line with legislation on the books in Western Europe and North America.
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05 Mar 2012 Mon 09:48 pm |
on the other hand, for Muslim airlines, one travels in a near-suffocation state, even on short trips, because of the high number of smokers.
All Turksih Airlines flights are smoke free
Gulf Air Company Within Middle East; Bahrain-England Bahrain-Austrailia, smoke free
Egyptair Domestic, smoke free
Royal Jordanian Airlines Within Middle East, smoke free
Kuwait Airways All within Gulf Region, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon; Between Beirut and Istanbul; Between Damascus and Larnaca, smoke free
Saudi Arabian Airlines, smoke free
Edited (3/5/2012) by stumpy
Edited (3/5/2012) by stumpy
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05 Mar 2012 Mon 10:10 pm |
Actually Stumpy if you really want to quit here is the deal. I am so adamant that smoking is harmful that I will aid you in quitting. You can pm and I will get the ball rolling.
if you need to take a prescription drug to aid you in the cessation of smoking. I will pay for it.
http://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/sujets/santepub/tabac/index.php?aid=110
http://www.iquitnow.qc.ca/
http://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/citoyens/assurancemedicaments/regimepublic/produitsantitabac.shtml
looking at the last links your own healthcare system will pay for you to quit and aid you too with the appropriate help.
Edited (3/5/2012) by acute
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06 Mar 2012 Tue 01:33 am |
Deleted personal attacks and locking the thread.
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