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10.       ilia-rad
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 01 Aug 2012 Wed 02:08 pm

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11.       AlphaF
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 01 Aug 2012 Wed 02:25 pm

like eating and drinking on purpose, to make yourself vomit, sexual intercourse , masturbating (it´s a sin in general in islam ) and some other things that I can explain more if you want.

 

Neither sexual intercourse nor masturbating directly breaks one´s fasting. Both however break something else, which then disqualifies one as a faster. The effect is indirect.

12.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 01 Aug 2012 Wed 05:25 pm

# They are under-age (9 years old for girls and 15 for boys)

Seems a bit unfair... in any case under-age is not counted at age 9 for girls, but before having a first period. But still unfair Most of my muslim female friends started fasting around the age of 16, which seems a better age than having a girl start at the age of 9 or 10. The body is still in a high level of development, at that age so not giving the proper nurishment seems wrong to me.

13.       ghiziss
16 posts
 01 Aug 2012 Wed 06:19 pm

from what i know, the most of turkish people don´t fast in ramdan, even they are muslims, but they don´t really practice religion as other muslims country, im morrocon and , morocco is muslim country, and it´s forbidden for a morrocon citizen to eat in the street for example in ramadan, if they want eat , they can do, coz it still between God and them, but they should respect others who are fasting, But in turkey, they can eat and drink and and maybe having sex also, they can do what they want , you don´t feel that you are in ramadan month becoz they are secular country

so now, in their cultur, ramadan is just a month where you can fast if you want, if not,no problem 

14.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Aug 2012 Wed 06:23 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

# They are under-age (9 years old for girls and 15 for boys)

Seems a bit unfair... in any case under-age is not counted at age 9 for girls, but before having a first period. But still unfair Most of my muslim female friends started fasting around the age of 16, which seems a better age than having a girl start at the age of 9 or 10. The body is still in a high level of development, at that age so not giving the proper nurishment seems wrong to me.

 

That is correct, if you are taught that science of biology (or whatever) rules the growth of young human beings.

If you have been led to believe however, that growth - like everything else - is a divine miracle by god, over which external factors can have no effect whatsoever.......... then things look a little different.

 

15.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Aug 2012 Wed 06:32 pm

 

Quoting ghiziss

from what i know, the most of turkish people don´t fast in ramdan, even they are muslims, but they don´t really practice religion as other muslims country, im morrocon and , morocco is muslim country, and it´s forbidden for a morrocon citizen to eat in the street for example in ramadan, if they want eat , they can do, coz it still between God and them, but they should respect others who are fasting, But in turkey, they can eat and drink and and maybe having sex also, they can do what they want , you don´t feel that you are in ramadan month becoz they are secular country

so now, in their cultur, ramadan is just a month where you can fast if you want, if not,no problem 

 

Measuring a person´s closeness to God  by the way he dresses, acts or prays is related to the concept of TAKWA. Only god can pass judgement on a person´s Takwa.

Be careful...Trying to assume roles reserved for God alone, is a cardinal sin in Islam.

Keep fasting graciously and silently....never mind what others do !

16.       ghiziss
16 posts
 01 Aug 2012 Wed 06:48 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Measuring a person´s closeness to God  by the way he dresses, acts or prays is related to the concept of TAKWA. Only god can pass judgement on a person´s Takwa.

Be careful...Trying to assume roles reserved for God alone, is a cardinal sin in Islam.

Keep fasting graciously and silently....never mind what others do !

 

i think you understood wrong, coz i never try to judge someone, and as i said before, it´s between the person and his God, but also, it´s up to cultur of the country, and in turkey if you eat in ramadan is something normal, but in others countries, it´s different 

i´m not talking about me or how do i fast, it´s far from this ...everyone is free, no one can know between people and their God coz as you said, and no one can judge people but their creator

May Allah show us all the right way

17.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 04:51 am

 

Quoting ghiziss

from what i know, the most of turkish people don´t fast in ramdan, even they are muslims, but they don´t really practice religion as other muslims country, im morrocon and , morocco is muslim country, and it´s forbidden for a morrocon citizen to eat in the street for example in ramadan, if they want eat , they can do, coz it still between God and them, but they should respect others who are fasting, But in turkey, they can eat and drink and and maybe having sex also, they can do what they want , you don´t feel that you are in ramadan month becoz they are secular country

so now, in their cultur, ramadan is just a month where you can fast if you want, if not,no problem 

You cant eat or do whatever you want everywhere in Turkey in Ramadan. If you eat or drink something in the street, people will not approve your behavior. People can warn you and even some fanatics can attack you. So many people like me dont take this risk. I dont fast. But I never eat or drink something in the street.

 

18.       heiditc
15 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 07:58 am

19.       heiditc
15 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 07:59 am

Ramadhaan you cannot eat or drink after fajr and untill Maghrib prayer, also you can not have sexual realtions during this time also. Its nothing to do with CULTURE, Ramadhaan is ramadhaan there is no question and no excuse for not fasting, unless you are not a muslim, you are really sick, pregnant or brest feeding, on having period. these are the only things that stop you from fasting. But there is no point in fasting if you are not going to pray the 5 daily prays.

20.       heiditc
15 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 08:01 am

Also a person has to fast as soon as they hit puberty... so saying 9 for girls and 15 for boys is wrong.. generally children should be fasting and praying by the age of 11!

 

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