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20.       heiditc
15 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 08:01 am

Also a person has to fast as soon as they hit puberty... so saying 9 for girls and 15 for boys is wrong.. generally children should be fasting and praying by the age of 11!

 

21.       ghiziss
16 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 01:19 pm

you have to know all that i have nothing agaisnt turkey, on the contrary,turkey is my second country becoz my husband is turkish man, and im going to live in turkey inshallah , that´s why im learning turkish here

and he told me the same thing about Ramadhan there, yes All muslim people know that in Ramadan we have to fast, but there , restaurants, coffes, bars and everything is open and people are eating without any problem , 

you say that ramadan is far from culture, but i don´t think so, becoz, look, when i grow up in country where i can eat or fast, where i see most of people are not fasting, i take in my mind that this is a choice , i can eat just becoz ramdan is hard for me, i can´t stay hungry all the day, and no one will ask me, "why did you eat?"... but in other country, you grow up with this idea of " you have to fast coz it´s ramdan" if you don´t have reaaly a good reason to eat, you should never do, even if you are hungry or thirsty , becoz this is the objectif

and again i say, i don´t judge anyone, coz everyone is responsable about himself , i respect others and their choices as they must respect me and my choices also, but we are just discussing here about difference between ramdan in turkey and in other countries , not less or more

nice day to all

22.       heiditc
15 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 01:25 pm

Well in the UK most muslims fast... so really dont think there is any excuse! ... Allahu Alam!

 

23.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 02:51 pm

24.       tunci
7149 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 02:59 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

Why dont you use a different browser barba ? "Mozilla" , as we dont see   your post. At least me myself cant see it although my eyes are as strong as eagle´s..

 

25.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 03:01 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

Why dont you use a different browser barba ? "Mozilla" , as we dont see your post. At least me myself cant see it although my eyes are as strong as eagle´s..

 

Ugh, because I don´t want to be forced into using a browers just to be able to post on 1 website. I like my browser I said something about fasting being personal, and our opinions have nothing to do with it. Wether we think people could or should fast has nothing to do with Ramadan. And if you only fast because other people say you should, or you simply fast because you can, it is empty. Ramadan is a month of contemplation and meditation, about overthinking life and your relationship with god. Fasting can be a tool to do this, but fasting shouldn´t be something you just do because everybody says so.

 

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26.       tunci
7149 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 03:23 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

Ugh, because I don´t want to be forced into using a browers just to be able to post on 1 website. I like my browser I said something about fasting being personal, and our opinions have nothing to do with it. Wether we think people could or should fast has nothing to do with Ramadan. And if you only fast because other people say you should, or you simply fast because you can, it is empty. Ramadan is a month of contemplation and meditation, about overthinking life and your relationship with god. Fasting can be a tool to do this, but fasting shouldn´t be something you just do because everybody says so.

 


How can you call it just "on that one website" that one website [turkishclass.com] should play a big role in your life . neyse..just kidding..

I agree that "fasting is a totaly personal " however sometimes we get encouraged by other people by them saying us their views as long as they do NOT judge "the way our fasting" or "our not fasting"

It is God who is and will judge us all..

We[should] fast for God , NOT for other people. Otherwise as you said "It is empty"




 

 


 

 

27.       ghiziss
16 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 03:53 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

Ugh, because I don´t want to be forced into using a browers just to be able to post on 1 website. I like my browser I said something about fasting being personal, and our opinions have nothing to do with it. Wether we think people could or should fast has nothing to do with Ramadan. And if you only fast because other people say you should, or you simply fast because you can, it is empty. Ramadan is a month of contemplation and meditation, about overthinking life and your relationship with god. Fasting can be a tool to do this, but fasting shouldn´t be something you just do because everybody says so.

 

 

you are right, absolutly right !!!

Ramadan is the month where we must be near of Allah, we fast for this objectif, we fast, we pray, we try to clean ouselves from everything bad we were doing, we clean our eyes so we don´t watch something bad, we clean our mouths, so we don´t say something bad, we clean our hearts, we think of others and we feel as poor people can feel when they are hungry or thirsty and they don´t find to eat, we should visit our families , and our nears ... as you said Ramadan is a month of contemplation and meditation 

but when i was talking about ramdan in turkey, i didn´t talk about this, i mean, i didn´t enter in details....in general there are some people who are fasting coz they know what does Ramadan mean,  but alot of people dont know, coz their parents didn´t teach them, didn´t show them, what is ramadan and for what we have to fast, and society also in general doesn´t show that it´s really important month for us as muslims.... in other countries, from childerhood, we learn that ramadan is not like other countries, we should fast, and we should be near of Allah more than any other time " even we should always be near of God not just in ramadan " 

it doesn´t mean also, that in other muslim countries , all people are fasting as they should, there are who are not fasting at all also, but they hide themselves , but they are free again, i dont have to judge anyone, it´s not my business 

but again i say , in turkey Ramdan is very different and alittle hard at least for me !!!

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28.       Abla
3647 posts
 02 Aug 2012 Thu 04:51 pm

Quote:heiditc

But there is no point in fasting if you are not going to pray the 5 daily prays.

 

 

Keeping the prayers is more difficult than fasting. I would say it is the most difficult thing in Islam. And yet, it is the first thing the servant is asked about in the hereafter. If a person´s prayer is in order his other deeds are accepted also. If the prayer is lacking his whole performance is not complete.

 

The easiest thing in Islam, if I was asked  -  it is loving the Prophet SAAS.



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29.       ilia-rad
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 02 Aug 2012 Thu 10:50 pm




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30.       heiditc
15 posts
 03 Aug 2012 Fri 03:04 am

Yeaah 11 is about right because 11 is the age where a child must start praying... in which that means the fast should start at 11 also..

in different countrys its told at different ages i will get some evidence ...

Okay soo just red and it says pref 10 years old...

sorri if we are not allowed to post links but this is from islam q&a

 

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/65558

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