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1.       jolanaze
220 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 02:40 pm

Please could you tel me what exactly means

 

sen başkasın

 

Does this mean that I ma the other?????

 

many thanks,

2.       Abla
3648 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 02:45 pm

You are different.

 

You are something else.

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3.       jolanaze
220 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 02:55 pm

 

Quoting Abla

You are different.

 

You are something else.

 

Abla thanks a lot, it does not make more sense to me, anyway I am happy I understood that.... {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

4.       harp00n
3993 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 05:17 pm

A little correction.

In daily life/Turkish, if somebody say/tell to you "Sen başkasın" it mean "You are so special for me"

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5.       jolanaze
220 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 05:31 pm

 

Quoting harp00n

A little correction.

In daily life/Turkish, if somebody say/tell to you "Sen başkasın" it mean "You are so special for me"

 

 thanks a lot harp00n, now I am happy to understand this{#emotions_dlg.ty_ty}

6.       Abla
3648 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 06:09 pm

 

Ok, harp00n, as you are so clever how would you say in Turkish

 

                 It is apparently the case that you (pl.) sometimes were not made to fight.

 

Let´s see if you Turks really use all these long words or if they are pure theory.

 

I don´t mind if someone else replies either...

7.       harp00n
3993 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 06:31 pm

 

Quoting Abla

 

Ok, harp00n, as you are so clever how would you say in Turkish

 

                 It is apparently the case that you (pl.) sometimes were not made to fight.

 

Let´s see if you Turks really use all these long words or if they are pure theory.

 

I don´t mind if someone else replies either...

 

Hmmm,

Anlaşılan, bu konu; arada sırada kavga etmek/ediyor olmak için açılmadı/açılmıyor.

8.       Abla
3648 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 08:02 pm

Quote:harp00n

Anlaşılan, bu konu; arada sırada kavga etmek/ediyor olmak için açılmadı/açılmıyor.

 

döğ|üş|tür|t|ül|me|yebil|iyor|muş|sunuz|dur

 

No?

9.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 12:35 pm

It is apparently the case that you (pl.) sometimes were not made to fight...

 

Görünen durum o ki, sizler bazan kavga ettirilmemişsiniz......{#emotions_dlg.computer}

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10.       Abla
3648 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 03:53 pm

Thanks.

 

The example is from a grammar book (Göksel – Kerslake 2005). I do understand its function in that context is to show in which order grammatical suffixes are attached to a verb stem. So, it doesn’t have to be real language. What was interesting to me is how long grammatical formations Turks use in real life. In theory very long and complicated words are possible, of course, but at some point of complexity lexical means are preferred. That is what happened also when natives answered my question.

 

I wonder why they have used the stem döK- even though in contemporary language it is known as döv-. Anyway.


Neither harp00n nor AlphaF chose to use modal markers -DIr for ‘it is apparently the case that’ and –Abil- for ‘sometimes’ but used more words to express these things.


döğ|üş|tür|t|ül|me|yebil|iyor|muş|sunuz|dur 

It is apparently the case that you sometimes were not made to fight.

 



Edited (9/14/2012) by Abla
Edited (9/14/2012) by Abla

11.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 04:01 pm

 

Quoting Abla

You are different.

 

You are something else.

 

Your translation is correct, however,

In certain parts of Turkey, if you tell some one "Sen başkasın" - meaning a compliment - you may get a reply like "Esas sen başkasın" and a sour look will appear on the other guy´s face.

Can anyone explain why?

12.       tunci
7149 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 04:03 pm

 

Quoting Abla

 

 

v|üş|tür|t|ül|me|yebil|iyor|muş|sunuz|dur

 

No?

 

 

It is apparently the case that you (pl.) sometimes were not made to fight.

 

Abla, where is "ebil" in the sentence above ?

why you made double causitive by adding extra "t" ?

why you put reported past "muş" ?




13.       tunci
7149 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 04:13 pm

 

ok. take your english sentence ;

 

It is apparently the case that you sometimes were not made to fight.

 

ok. lets say -dır  can be translated as "  It is apparently the case that  " in this case.

but I cant see the connection between sometimes and -ebil.

 

 



Edited (9/14/2012) by tunci

14.       Abla
3648 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 04:14 pm

Quote:tunci

Abla, where is "ebil" in the sentence above ?

why you made double causitive by adding extra "t" ?

why you put reported past "muş" ?

 

I didn´t. Someone else did.

 

But I think -Abil- stands for ´sometimes´ in the English sentence. "It is possible that (in some occasions) X happened." I wish I could produce similar examples (in some language...).



Edited (9/14/2012) by Abla

15.       tunci
7149 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 04:19 pm

 

Ok. lets accept -muş  too as it has past event with bit of guessing  "It is apparently "
and event that we havent witnessed.

but sorry I still can not get my head round with that -ebil and sometimes connection.




Edited (9/14/2012) by tunci

16.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 04:23 pm

döğ|üş|tür|t|ül|me|yebil|iyor|muş|sunuz|dur 


It is apparently the case that you sometimes were not made to fight.


STEP BY STEP


- You were not made to fight.........siz döğüştürülmediniz


- Sometimes you were not made to fight..... siz bazan döğüştürülmediniz


- It is the case that you sometimes were not made to fight..... Durum o ki,


   siz bazan döğüştürülmediniz.


- It is apparently the case that you sometimes were not made to fight ....


  Durum o ki, görünüşe göre, siz bazan döğüştürülmediniz.


 


RESULT: Change your grammar book   {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}


 

17.       tunci
7149 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 04:32 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

döğ|üş|tür|t|ül|me|yebil|iyor|muş|sunuz|dur 

It is apparently the case that you sometimes were not made to fight.

STEP BY STEP

- You were not made to fight.........siz döğüştürülmediniz

- Sometimes you were not made to fight..... siz bazan döğüştürülmediniz

- It is the case that you sometimes were not made to fight..... Durum o ki,

   siz bazan döğüştürülmediniz.

- It is apparently the case that you sometimes were not made to fight ....

  Durum o ki, görünüşe göre, siz bazen dövüştürülmediniz.

 

RESULT: Change your grammar book   {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

 

Alpha, do you mind if I do a final touch ? on  "bazen and vüş "

 

note : in my opinion , -miş also can be used as guessing and it is an unwitnessed event.



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