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10.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:15 pm

 

Quoting elifce

 

 

Anyone is free to say what they want to say as long as it doesn´t involve swearings.

I didn´t say you were not free, I said it was not needed. I hope you understand the difference.

 

11.       elifce
33 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:20 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

I didn´t say you were not free, I said it was not needed. I hope you understand the difference.

 

 

You think that it wasn´t needed and I think that it was needed. The difference is clear.

12.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:26 pm

 

Quoting elifce

 

 

You think that it wasn´t needed and I think that it was needed. The difference is clear.

Yes and the difference is also ethically big.

 

13.       elifce
33 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 07:08 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

Yes and the difference is also ethically big.

 

 

According to you or is there a set of universal ethical laws that I don´t know of?

 

14.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 07:11 pm

Durun, siz kardessiniz!!!

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15.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 08:02 pm

 

Quoting elifce

 

 

According to you or is there a set of universal ethical laws that I don´t know of?

 

There are some Islamic ethical values. In this hadith you can see one of them:

´´Ölülerinizin iyiliklerini anınız, kötülüklerini anmayınız." (Tirmizi)

Mention good deeds of your deceaseds, do not mention their bad deeds.

Muslims accept Islamic ethical values as universal. So according to Muslims there is a set of universal ethical laws. If you don´t know or accept them, it is your problem. I am expressing my thoughts according to this Islamic values not according to me.

 

 



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16.       elifce
33 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 10:25 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

If you don´t know or accept them, it is your problem.

 

 

 

So if I`m not a muslim, it`s a problem? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} Then you will ask why they call you islamofascists.

17.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:33 pm

 

Quoting elifce

 

 

So if I`m not a muslim, it`s a problem? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} Then you will ask why they call you islamofascists.

Lol. So you understood that from this sentence "If you don´t know or accept them, it is your problem." Should I explain everything word by word for you? This sentence means it doesn´t matter if you don´t know  Islamic ethical values or don´t accept them as universal ethical values. As long as I accept(like other muslims) them you can´t blame me speaking without a basis. 

 

Kapiş? 

 



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18.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:37 pm

I am so sick of simple minded Turkish orientalists. 

19.       elifce
33 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:48 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

Lol. So you understood that from this sentence "If you don´t know or accept them, it is your problem." Should I explain everything word by word for you? This sentence means it doesn´t matter if you don´t know  Islamic ethical values or don´t accept them as universal ethical values. As long as I accept(like other muslims) them you can´t blame me speaking without a basis. 

 

Kapiş? 

 

 

I didn`t accuse you of "speaking without a basis". I just told you that your islamic ethical values can`t be universal if they don`t apply to everyone in this universe, which they don`t. But I think you don`t have enough capacity to understand that so there is no point in arguing with you. Bye.

 

 

20.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:55 pm

 

Quoting elifce

 

 

I didn`t accuse you of "speaking without a basis". I just told you that your islamic ethical values can`t be universal if they don`t apply to everyone in this universe, which they don`t. But I think you don`t have enough capacity to understand that so there is no point in arguing with you. Bye.

 

 

If you didn´t accuse me of speaking without a basis please tell me what does this "according to you" mean in your sentence: According to you or is there a set of universal ethical laws that I don´t know of?

 

I don´t try to apply my Islamic universal ethics to everybody but if I accept them as divine I must accept them as universal too. So that is a matter of belief not science. If I don´t have enough capacity why I disgrace you again and again? You even run away because of this

 



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